BCS National Title Game Open Thread
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After a month, it is finally upon us - our Fighting Tigers will take on the Ohio State Buckeyes for the national title, and the only team in college football to own two crystal ball trophies. Kickoff's at 8pm Eastern on Fox.
The talking heads have weighed in, with the clear consensus being:
- First, that it is unequivocally impossible for Ohio State to come out and get rolled for a second straight year; the Buckeyes have learned their lesson and Jim Tressel would never let that happen. They've been steaming over it for a year.
- Second, that the Buckeyes are by no means inferior to LSU in the speed department, and all this talk of "SEC Speed" is just garbage.
- Third, Jim Tressel is a far better coach than Les Miles.
- Fourth, that because a 100% healthy LSU team is simply more talented than Ohio State, none of the above matters and LSU wins anyway on the strength of the home crowd.
I love gauging the consensus because much of it is often wrong, when examining it after the fact. So mark it down: surely a couple of the above points will be proven incorrect tomorrow (most likely the final one, simply because SO MANY people are picking LSU and the favorite has simply not acquitted itself well at all in these title games).
Reading through the predictions (see talking heads link above for one set of examples), it's gotten customary to see experts forecasting a total score in the range of mid-40s to 50s. The two things I haven't seen predicted anywhere (which, incidentally, leads me to believe it's far more likely to happen) are: 1) an Ohio State blowout, and 2) an LSU victory with both teams struggling to attain double digits in points. Now, no 7-6 score is ever really all that likely, but in the case of these two teams I really feel like a final score in the 14-13 range is by no means out of the question.
My two biggest worries, in order, are:
- Offensive line's ability to protect Flynn
- Defensive line's inability to get pressure on Boeckman, resulting in his finding open receivers downfield.
I think the punters will be busy tomorrow. Godspeed, Patrick Fisher!
LSU, 14-13.
Comments? Predictions? Come one, come all, and weigh in with your own thoughts! Be as crazy as you'd like, no one's going to remember after the fact if you're wrong, and you'll get showered with accolades from near and far if you're right.
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My Two Cents
My gut is LSU 24/OSU 17. But I don't think it will actually be that close. I expect at least 1-2 of OSU scores to be off a turnover or a few stupid LSU penalties. I really think LSU will pretty much dominate.
Why? Two things, speed and a healthy team across the board. I don't know how many times this year (and I know it was a crazy year) the experts say this "Storied" program will beat this team. And the other team wasn't listening and their speed on both side of the ball changed the game in ways we've never really seen before.
One last comment. I really appreciate all your posts this year. I especially like the joint efforts between yourself/this site and the blogs of the teams we're playing. As I approach 40, trying to grow my own business, and do all the other things I enjoy I just don't have the time I used to have to follow sports. I now just follow three or four teams: LSU football/basketball, Redskins, and of course the Cardinals.
Is it game time yet ......
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 11:23 AM CST 0 recs
Thanks for the comments
I'm confident that if healthy we should be expected to win this game, perhaps even convincingly if I dare say so. My problem is just that I've only seen us execute perfectly in ONE non-bowl big game in Miles' three years, and that was the Va Tech game this year. If we come out like that, OSU will not stand a chance; Va Tech's defense is not all that much of a dropoff from the Buckeyes. But the bottom line is that I think the odds are well against our turning in that kind of performance, so who knows what happens if it gets to be heart-attack time yet again for the Tiger faithful? Perhaps the laws of luck/averages/ONIONS begin to go against us all game. And perhaps the Ohio State Buckeyes go out and prove they're actually not all that much less talented than we are.
But here's hoping like hell that you're right!
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 1:10 PM CST
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Gameday prayer
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 1:11 PM CST 0 recs
More hilarity
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 1:15 PM CST 0 recs
Game thoughts
by 99chazz on Jan 7, 2008 3:22 PM CST 0 recs
Thanks
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 4:16 PM CST
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SMQ's thoughts
He makes a good point, and one that we've complained about before in these parts - LSU doesn't really have the one "go-to" player in the mold of OSU's Beanie Wells. That could very well be the difference, though it hasn't seemed to matter all that much for the first 13 games of our season.
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 4:19 PM CST 0 recs
I'm feeling a classic LSU loss tonight
I hope not, but there you are.
BTW, Gregg Doyel has no business calling anybody stupid-looking considering the muff he sports on his face. All in all, Les is better at his job than Doyel is at his (i.e., being the mouthpiece for arugala-belt mouthbreathers).
Geaux Tigers!
by Man Mountain on Jan 7, 2008 6:03 PM CST 0 recs
Stupid Offensive Penalties is What Worries Me
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 6:36 PM CST
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Penalties
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 7:01 PM CST
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I'm all over the place on this one
In case I don't make it back during the game (I need meds other than a laptop to stabilize my gametime nerves), it's been great chatting with everyone here. Great work on the blog GT. It's been fun reading and posting here. I'll probably be around some during the aftermath but I don't follow LSU nearly so much in other sports.
by crepuscular on Jan 7, 2008 6:36 PM CST 0 recs
Thanks for your participation, crepuscular!
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 6:59 PM CST
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Can We Stop Hearing About This Darn OSU DVD
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 6:39 PM CST 0 recs
SWEET!!!!!
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 7:01 PM CST 0 recs
That Is Good News
BTW: How is that fund you launched working out :)?
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 7:08 PM CST
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Haha, thanks for asking
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 7:10 PM CST
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I Bet "UGLY" Might Be An Understatement
But enough about that. It is work for you. A fun thing to talk about for me. Time for football!
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 7:13 PM CST 0 recs
Well crap
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 7:28 PM CST 0 recs
That Is An Understatement
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 7:37 PM CST
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Ok Steady Up Here
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 7:44 PM CST 0 recs
at least
by Man Mountain on Jan 7, 2008 7:46 PM CST 0 recs
At least this drive is eating up clock
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 7:53 PM CST 0 recs
Ok, Just What We Needed
Wow, that almost sucked .....
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 8:04 PM CST 0 recs
I Like That Confidence By Miles In RP
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 8:10 PM CST 0 recs
YES
And we're supposed to be the ones committing those stupid penalties
And Man Mountain - my roommate works with Chris Myers on the NFL crew and we've got some amusing stories.
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 8:14 PM CST 0 recs
I always sorted of liked him
BTW, I'm liking the color guy alright, who is it?
As a Reds fan, I have to listen to tHom Brennaman way too much. He may be the most conceited dudes in that profession. Not an easy task.
by Man Mountain on
Jan 7, 2008 8:18 PM CST
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Color guy
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 8:22 PM CST
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Yeah, We With Stood The 10
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 8:16 PM CST
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Wow, Wow, That Is The Stiff-arm Of The Year!
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 8:17 PM CST 0 recs
Figures
by Man Mountain on Jan 7, 2008 8:25 PM CST 0 recs
HELL YES
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 8:31 PM CST 0 recs
This Has Been Impressive On Many Different Levels
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 8:34 PM CST
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As a Flynn detractor I have to say
by Man Mountain on Jan 7, 2008 8:32 PM CST 0 recs
In A Previous Conversation w/ GT
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 8:37 PM CST
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I suppose that's why
by Man Mountain on
Jan 7, 2008 8:46 PM CST
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Of course...
NOT really making that comparison, just sayin'.
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 8:48 PM CST
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In Light Of Tom Brady's Post College
He is fairly mobile. Makes good decisions. And again, he just wins games. And he seems, as we've all witnessed this year, to be at his best late in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line.
You can teach a lot of stuff. You can't teach what Flynn seems to have in spades.
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 8:52 PM CST
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You also can't teach arm strength
I like Flynn--tonight I REALLY like him--but because he's the quarterback for a terrific team and isn't an overwhelming athlete, he gets the "just knows how to win" tag, which always strikes me as fishy once we're talking NFL.
by Man Mountain on
Jan 7, 2008 9:07 PM CST
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I'm an idiot
by Man Mountain on
Jan 7, 2008 9:28 PM CST
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I Love It!!!
Defense has to hold, let's take them out of the Beanie Wells game plan entirely.
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 8:45 PM CST 0 recs
I Think I Mentioned This Before
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 8:54 PM CST 0 recs
That's hysterical
Ali Landry's from Louisiana, couldn't she at least enroll for a semester and then leave?
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 9:06 PM CST
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Can we annex Alabama
I also kind of like Carville. He looks made up.
by Man Mountain on
Jan 7, 2008 9:09 PM CST
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LOL Here, I Had To Google Ali Landry
And on the topic of attractive women from LA that Gameday Prayer link you posted was flat out hysterical.
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 9:12 PM CST 0 recs
Ok, Wait A Second
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 9:16 PM CST 0 recs
That was an awesome sweater
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 9:16 PM CST
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As A Recovering "Deadhead"
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 9:22 PM CST
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Jamarcus
by Man Mountain on Jan 7, 2008 9:16 PM CST 0 recs
Roughing the kicker?
Of course, we still had to go fifty yards to take the 31-10 lead after that (aided by one more personal foul), but still...
This Ohio State meltdown in terms of personal fouls is supposed to be what LSU does.
For the record, it is a Big 12 crew.
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 9:41 PM CST 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing
by Man Mountain on
Jan 7, 2008 9:44 PM CST
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Well We Are All In Agreement Then
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 9:45 PM CST
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LSU needs to score a few more touchdowns
by Man Mountain on Jan 7, 2008 9:46 PM CST 0 recs
Lets Not Do That
Now, if after the game Miles wants to call out Pete Carroll and USC .... something like "we could be at the Coliseum this Sunday if USC would like to play a pick-up game" I would be very, very cool with that.
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 9:51 PM CST
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I'm hyperventilating and we have a 2 TD lead
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 9:55 PM CST 0 recs
A 3 and out is the last thing we need here
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 10:00 PM CST 0 recs
Need A Solid Punt & Defensive Stand!
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 10:05 PM CST
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Dammit, Boeckman hung in the pocket well there
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 10:09 PM CST 0 recs
OK, Talking About Rules I Don't Like
Huge sack ..........
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 10:13 PM CST 0 recs
Thank Gosh There Was No Flag
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 10:17 PM CST 0 recs
OK, Not From That Angle They Just Showed ....
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 10:20 PM CST
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game
Ohio State has flashes of brilliance, but overall can't keep up the pace.
http://www.cornnation.com
by Cornnation on Jan 7, 2008 10:21 PM CST 0 recs
I guess
Their D has played exteremely well this half other than the one TD drive where they deconstructed a bit on the one unfortunate roughing call and then a stupid personal foul.
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 10:25 PM CST
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when
much faster off the ball, although LSU does give up that first down just now.
http://www.cornnation.com
by Cornnation on Jan 7, 2008 10:29 PM CST 0 recs
Now I Just Have To Say
My gut is LSU 24/OSU 17.
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 10:35 PM CST 0 recs
the blood
38-17 soon?
http://www.cornnation.com
by Cornnation on Jan 7, 2008 10:36 PM CST 0 recs
I'll Second That. NATIONAL CHAMPS!!!!!!!!
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 10:42 PM CST
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Wow
40-3 over #9 Miami
41-14 over #10 Notre Dame
38-24 (probably) over #1 Ohio State
Jeebus. Give that man 30 days to prepare and evidently we can take anyone.
by GeauxTigers on Jan 7, 2008 10:47 PM CST 0 recs
I Am Not Even Close To Somebody
As the announcers mentioned, LSU is well on their way to creating one of the best programs in the nation.
Of course, that is something I am VERY HAPPY about! And I don't see how anybody can argue that isn't 110% accurate.
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 10:51 PM CST
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Something I Hadn't Thought Of
by tommyguniii on Jan 7, 2008 10:53 PM CST 0 recs
Yes indeed
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 11:02 PM CST
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congrats
Have fun, guys!
http://www.cornnation.com
by Cornnation on Jan 7, 2008 11:00 PM CST 0 recs
Thanks CN
by GeauxTigers on
Jan 7, 2008 11:02 PM CST
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Thanks As Well CN
by tommyguniii on
Jan 7, 2008 11:06 PM CST
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End of Game comment
I said I would post after the game. First of all, congratulations on your victory, enjoy your spotlight. This is very frustrating for me because I have been a Buckeye fan for over forty years but I won't bail on this team. Hopefully, we'll pull ourselves together in short order and make another run at it. To those SEC/LSU posters who are throwing crap on the OSU fan forums tonight.... well, never mind, my words will be lost on them anyway. I have enjoyed visiting your forum and again thank you for being cordial. See you next year.
by 99chazz on Jan 7, 2008 11:41 PM CST 0 recs
Thanks
Just glad our offense showed we could move the ball on a defense as formidable as yours.
And in the end, this game had nothing to do with SEC Speed.
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Jan 8, 2008 12:09 AM CST
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