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Florida 51 - LSU 21: Bad Night

Well, losses don't get much worse than that.  In fact, that was by far the worst and most embarrassing loss of the Les Miles era.  

A lot of people are saying we weren't ready to play, and that may be true, but I am not sure.  I think that this was a game where, even though the scoreboard was really lopsided, was decided by only a few plays.

The first two plays of the game, LSU's defense played well and put Florida in a 3rd and long situation.  We forced an inaccurate throw on third down that our defensive back got a hand on.  It should have either been intercepted or knocked down, forcing a punt.  Instead, it was tipped up and into Percy Harvin's arms and there was no one to catch him.  Instead of us getting the ball in decent field position with a defensive stop under our belts, we were behind 7-0 on a bad bounce and the Gators were riding high emotionally.

After that, we were unable to get anything going on our own possession.  Our offensive line was unable to open holes for Charles Scott early, and Florida's offensive firepower prevented us from being patient with it as the game progressed.  We had that bad offensive possession and had to give the ball back.  At this point, we were really back on our heels and we had lost the emotional edge.  We didn't get it back until we were behind 20-0.

I think if that pass to Harvin falls incomplete, the whole first quarter has a different tenor.

We fought back in the second quarter, but we were again plagued by a bad play here and there, especially the fumbled exchange between Jarrett Lee and Charles Scott.  Getting that big touchdown headed into the locker room was huge, and getting that second touchdown to cut the lead to 20-14 in the third quarter was doubly huge.  We really were right back in it.

Then the second really important play happened.  I don't know if it was a really important play exactly, but it was a really important drive.  When we gave the ball back to Florida having cut the lead to 6 points, had we gotten a stop there, we would have seized all the momentum and we could have played our game the rest of the way.  Instead, we gave up the long pass to Louis Murphy, who had beaten Chris Hawkins, to set up the easy touchdown, putting us behind by 13 again.

That touchdown utterly deflated us.  Maybe had we come right back and scored, we could have stayed in it, but instead we got a 3-and-out.  At that point, the game was probably over.  Florida, as they did against Arkansas, was able to pour on the points towards the end.  Not that they ran it up, which they didn't, but they continued playing their game and we just didn't have it in us to keep fighting.  That is what made the score lopsided.

One of the things I like about college football is that often, even in a game that ends up not being close, you can look back and say that it would have been different if one or two plays had gone differently.  If Danny McCray is able to stop that pass to Harvin, and if Chris Hawkins had stopped that pass to Murphy, the entire game is different.

I'll have a post up another day about what this means to us, but I will summarize here.  If we are able to recover emotionally from the loss and keep playing, we can be fine.  The key will be to not get negative.  We have another big game next week against a team that can beat us if we aren't sharp.

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on a positive note

- this game doesnt really impact our viability to win the sec championship

- hatch, although he had 2 interceptions and threw the ball behind receivers on crossing routes, looked pretty good. he is improving for sure. The guy was knocked around and rushed all night. He is a redshirt freshman who was starting his second game.. in the swamp. Give the guy some more time and his touch and timing will improve. I think he will be very good in time.

- brandon lafell is just awesome and he is a junior

- harry coleman played well. didnt see jai get beat. good to see p peterson getting some good experience. our cb’s are just green.

-only one more year of tebow and harvin. they are reloading, but those two are irreplaceable

We are going to bounce back. Miles is a fighter and so is this team.

by nepomo on Oct 12, 2008 8:16 AM CDT   0 recs

good positives there

Actually you are talking about Lee not Hatch … Lee does have good upside and needs to progress, but these growing pains are to be expected with a RS Frosh at QB in the SEC

At least we still control our destiny in the SEC

by ctalati32 on Oct 12, 2008 11:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Richard...

Completely agree. I think we talked about all those things last night.

On a different note though, I’m not real sure our DC’s are at an “elite level” which they need to be for us to win championships. We’ve now played 3 SEC games, all 3 of our opponents have scored season highs in points in SEC games against us. That is unacceptable. I’m not putting this loss on Miles, I’m putting it on the DC’s. I’m worried however that at the end of the season, if our D hasn’t improved that Miles will be too loyal to his guys and won’t go another direction. I know we’ve got young guys in the secondary, but allowing season highs to every team we play is unacceptable, bottom line.

by LSU Jonno on Oct 12, 2008 12:49 PM CDT   0 recs

DC's are responsible for part of it...

They made the decision to have Mcray and Beckwith guarding Harvin. We all knew going into this game that our safeties and Linebackers wouldn’t be able to keep up w/ Harvin, and yet we still put those two guys in position to have to cover them in passing situations.

The players certainly bear responsibility for their mistakes, but it appears that the DC’s weren’t prepared for Florida.

by Zandor435 on Oct 12, 2008 7:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree that the overall tone of the night would have been different

if they hadn’t scored that early TD, but it doesn’t change the fact that we couldn’t run on them. Even during the brief times that we had some momentum, we did not control the line of scrimmage. And on defense, there was no pressure (calling some more blitzes might have helped). In short, our O and D lines, supposedly our strengths, did not play to their capability. I am not trying to raise a lynch mob against Miles, but when we have a bye week to get ready for this big of a game, yet come out flat and lay the egg that we did, you have to look first to the coaching staff for not having this team ready to play. As far as our players go, they would have been better served by worrying more about getting to Tebow physically, rather than verbally. Perhaps reading less about ourselves and more about our opponents would help. (No need to even get into RJF’s asinine remarks at this point.)

I agree that a few key plays made this very lopsided, but even without those few plays, the Gators still win by 10-14.

We’ve got this week to find ourselves, and get ready for SC, who seems to have found it’s stride lately. Otherwise, our season could quickly go the way of Auburn’s.

by artiger on Oct 12, 2008 1:05 PM CDT   0 recs

Florida played an intelligent game . . .

Someone must’ve told them that LSU’s lines were bigger/stronger so they used the Auburn style of defense – outquick your opponent.

Ever notice how their receivers would be wide-open 10-to-20-yards downfield? Easy. They concentrate on running good routes.

LSU DBs were a 1/2-to-full step behind FL players all night when it came to making their initial cut – that’s worth an extra 5 to 10 yards or more right there.

by beingalive@65 on Oct 12, 2008 1:50 PM CDT   0 recs

I agree w/ LSU Jonno

DC’s did a bad job. Les needs to find ONE GOOD DC! Also- What I attribute to bad coaching- total confusion on the field. Players didn’t know what was going on at times. And worst of all…Trash talking when your getting blown out. T. Jackson, Cleman, etc. Disgraceful.

by toreaux on Oct 12, 2008 5:14 PM CDT   0 recs

I don't buy the one or two plays theory

As noted above, we never established a running game. We never figured out how to defend Harvin. We did have a chance at turning the momentum when it was 20-14, but really Florida was in control the whole game. Their offense finally showed up, their defense forced Lee/Hatch to beat them, and they couldn’t do it.

As Richard said, we still control our own destiny in the west, and the SEC championship game could be a different story, but we shouldn’t try to fool ourselves. The better team won that game last night. No fluky calls, no what-ifs, it was an old fashioned ass kicking.

by The Bengal on Oct 12, 2008 10:23 PM CDT   0 recs

Agreed - big time ass kicking.

Specifically, the Gators had our OL on it’s heels all night long. Lee was pressured all night and CS had very little chance to find a seam and go. And our DL was incapable of pressuring Tebow.

I don’t think our starting DEs are good enough in passing situations. That has implications for the LBs, the nickel/dime packages, and our ability to blitz without getting burned. So far, Tyson Jackson has been disappointing.

Safeties are strong. Corners doing better than I had expected them to be. McCray and C. Jones have not stepped into their own yet. Jones gets a lot of praise, but I’m just not seeing it on the field yet.

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by TigerBait on Oct 12, 2008 11:45 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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