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LSU 24 - South Carolina 17: Extremely Early Thoughts

I am of the opinion that any time you win a conference game on the road, there's only so much you can complain about how you got the win.  

Yeah, we didn't exactly play lights-out either offensive or defensively, except in the second half when the defense could not possibly have been more stifling.  When we finally started teeing off on the pass rush and maintaining lane discipline to contain Garcia's scrambling, that was pretty much it for the USC offense.  Then we just had to plug away when we had the ball and let the victory come to us.  Our defense was like a boa constrictor squeezing the Gamecocks and waiting for them to exhale so we could squeeze a little tighter.  Eventually, the South Carolina defense had to yield some points, and they did.

It wasn't pretty.  It wasn't memorable.  It won't go down as one of the signature victories of this era of LSU football, but it is a very important win for us.  Finally, our defense came to play, and maybe found a bit of an identity.  We rebounded from the awful performance of last week to get what is our second biggest win of the season.

At halftime, and throughout the 3rd quarter, I was not in any way confident we would pull this one out.  It seemed like we were a step slow getting to the ball defensively, and our offense kept shooting itself in the foot with either a bad pass or a dropped ball.  We were behind 17-10, but I thought we were just a hair short of being ahead 24-10.  When you miss opportunities like we missed, it's hard to imagine you'll get them again.

But, as always, a Les Miles-coached team persevered.  We made adjustments defensively and kept beating our heads against the wall offensively until the wall finally fell over.

In a few game notes, I want to point out that Curtis Taylor seemed to respond to the media criticism.  The guy hadn't made many plays all year, but in this game he got a big sack, got a clinching interception, and probably got a touchdown-saving 4th down tackle, but the refs decided otherwise and replay was inconclusive.

Another beleaguered LSU player, Keiland Williams, had a good night.  He had 95 total yards from scrimmage and a 23 yard kickoff return.  For the first time all season, he was an integral part of the offense, and was genuinely our most effective player on that side of the ball.

Jarrett Lee had an unimpressive stat line, 16 for 26 for 189 yards and 1 interception, but he had a couple of bad drops that would have made his numbers look more impressive if they had been caught.  Lafell and Byrd each dropped two catchable balls that would have been big gains.  Of course, Lee also threw that costly interception that set up South Carolina's second touchdown right before the half.

If we are going to have a successful season (and at this point, I would define a successful season as making it to the SEC Championship Game), we are going to have to stop giving the other team points with our offense.  We have committed bad turnovers in 3 SEC games now, and we are fortunate that it hasn't cost us a game yet.  If we keep doing it, it will.

Defensively, the line played much better than they have all season, both stopping the run and getting pressure.  We struggled keeping up with their receivers in the first half, but clamped down in the second.  I will have to go back and review the personnel packages we used in the second half, but I really like the adjustment of moving Jackson to tackle on passing downs.  Neither Favorite nor Alexander are pass rushers, and Jackson is a little too big and slow to be an effective rush end.  By moving him to tackle and putting a quicker player at his end position, we improve both spots on obvious passing downs.  We should keep it up.

I'll have some more thoughts on this game another day.  For right now, let's just enjoy the fact that we won it.  We're still in every race that counts, and we still control our destiny in the SEC.  You can't ask for much more than that at the halfway point.

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huge win

winning that game helps tremendously in putting the florida loss behind us. especially the way we played in the 4th quarter. This team just NEVER quits. My hat is off to them and miles.

We may have gotten hosed on the goalline call, but damn were we lucky on that pass to mckinnley in the 4th qtr. jai just left him to go after the scrambling garcia and the guy was WIDE open. If Garcia makes that pass just decent, its a touchdown. There were also some dropped interceptions. ie hatch’s in the endzone and lee’s around midfield

I dont understand our offense at all. One week we are a power running team. The next week we look like a spread team. We have the option in there. Scott is our guy. Now Keiland is in there acting as the primary runner. I cant tell if its a “lets just see what works this week” approach or if crowton is just trying to give lots of fronts. Whatever. If it works, I dont care. Just seems weird.

I have a such an appreciation for ali highsmith now. seeing our linebackers lumber around, get beat in coverage, get outrun by guys that arent that fast. highsmith was great. covered the field and receivers very well. hopefully ryan baker can be ali-esk next year. He is awesome on special teams. McCray was still the nickelback at the start… and got beat by their best receiver, lined up in the slot for 18 yards. shocker!

Towards the end, apparently we have a new dline grouping called “the express” where we only use defensive ends. so, jackson, pittman, alem, and tremaine johnson constitute our dline. Looks like a good idea to me. I think its why we had the pressure we did in the second half. Alem came up with another big sack. Jackson finally had a big game, but got his sacks the old fashioned way with favorite and woods in there.

lee – the guy is logging some good hours right now. the way lsu wins football games is going to make his growth curb twice as fast as on a normal team. his interception was on another crossing route. the guy just doesnt have those down yet. he keeps throwing behind the reciever. that one was high too, but I think it was because tolliver is such a tall guy the pass was intentionally high. just too high. that being said, the kid has a good arm. he had some great looking deep balls to byrd. we need to be doing that more. byrd is such a threat. we need to use him.

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by nepomo on Oct 19, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you're partly right about our linebackers

I think our linebackers lack the speed of the best linebackers in the conference. But it’s not just our linebackers. I think our whole defense is insufficiently speedy if we expect them to be one of the best in the conference. Specifically, I think our DE, LB, and safeties need to have a speed upgrade. It especially hurts us both in pass coverage and in pass rushing, but it doesn’t exactly help us against the outside runs either.

I don’t think we need wholesale changes, but I think we would be well-served to move out one linebacker and move a speedier guy in. Say, move Perry Riley out and Ryan Baker in. That would be a big speed upgrade.

Give Rahim Alem starter minutes and move Cousin Kirston to a backup role. That would upgrade the speed.

Curtis Taylor had a nice game last night, and that gives him a reprieve in my eyes. If he reverts back, then move Chad Jones or even Karnell Hatcher into his place.

I know that it would sacrifice a lot of experience, but frankly this team could really use an upgrade in talent.

Richard Pittman

by Richard Pittman on Oct 19, 2008 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

couldn't agree more

We are slow in all those areas. If we dont upgrade our speed in these positions, teams like Florida are going to continue to eat our lunch.

I miss laron landry too. Had great speed. Great tackling. Almost never got beat deep. Great blitzer to boot.

by nepomo on Oct 19, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are going to throw pics...

That’s just going to happen this year. We’ve got a freshman QB. It is on our Defense to get pressure and to cause more turnovers than we give up. So far they haven’t done this consistently. Tonight, to be honest, is how I imagined our team would look this year back before the season started. Dominant D-line, secondary giving up big plays sometimes, inconsistent offense plagued by dropped balls and bad passes. If we can eliminate the dropped balls by our veteran WR’s and maintain the same strategy and intensity on defense, Matt Stafford is going to have a long Saturday next week. If we can play slightly better on offense next week, I think we win 34-28.

by LSU Jonno on Oct 19, 2008 9:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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