Florida Preview
Some say his tears taste like rice krispie treats.
It's almost cliche to say that any analysis of the Florida Gators begins with Tim Tebow. It's cliche because it's true. As much as last year, the team revolves around Tim Tebow. As much as I dislike Urban Meyer and think he's one of the slimier college football coaches around, I actually quite admire Tim Tebow as a player and a team leader.
He's an imminently likable kid who is also an intense leader. I really enjoyed watching his reaction to the LSU fans distributing his cell phone number last year, and calling over and over and over and over again. He took it in stride, and when he scored the first touchdown of the game, he gave it right back to the student section by pantomiming a phone call to them. It was funny in a perfectly intentional and good-natured way. I laughed with him, even though we were losing.
Like any good fan, I laughed at him when we won. As much as I like Tebow as a player, his post-loss antics remind me a lot of 12-year-olds I saw when I used to work in Dixie Youth baseball. I know the emotional aspect of college football is what makes it great, but he's way too old to continue losing his composure whenever his team loses a tough game.
Anyway, that's a lot of stuff without really getting to the point, which is to preview Florida.
I think Florida is struggling, and it starts on the lines. This year, more than ever, games in the SEC are being won on the line of scrimmage. Teams with inferior skill players are winning by beating the opposing team on the line of scrimmage. I think this explains the Ole Miss @ Florida result, the Bama @ Georgia result, the LSU @ Auburn result, and most especially the Clemson vs. Bama result, among others.
In a year where line play seems more important than ever, Florida's lines are average at best, at least when you consider their injury situation, which has devastated the offensive line of the Gators in particular. The decline in offensive line play, in my opinion, is the primary reason that Tim Tebow has not been as effective this year.
To summarize,* through 5 games this year year, Tim Tebow has a QB rating of 148.0 with an average of 8.0 yards per pass attempt, 8 passing touchdowns, a 2.6 yards per carry average with 2 touchdowns in 61 official rushes (1 in 30.5 rushes).
Last year, his cumulative passer rating was 172.5, and through the same number of games he had 11 touchdown passes with a 10.9 yards per attempt average, a 4.9 yards per carry average with 8 rushing touchdowns on 89 attempts (1 in 11.1 rushes). Some of the difference in the cumulative stats are certainly an effect of the reduced number of plays due to the new clock rules, but it's hard to argue with the dramatic change in the rate stats. He's down 2.9 yards per pass attempt, 2.3 yards per rush attempt, and isn't getting into the end zone nearly as often.
Les Miles says he's a better player than last year, and that may be true, but he's not producing like he did last year. That's probably because of the players around him.
It's also not all about them putting the ball in the hands of the running backs. Last year, Tebow finished with 210 recorded rushes, while the team as a whole had 487, meaning Tebow accounted for 43% of Florida's recorded rushing plays. This year, he has 61 of Florida's 177 rushes, for ratio of 34%, a significant difference, but not that significant. It means roughly that he's down 15 rushes over the course of 5 games, when you account for the different total number of offensive plays.
Part of the problem for Tebow is the line, and part of it is that defenses have figured out a few things about him. First, while teams initially treated him like a scrambler and avoided blitzing Tebow, we have figured out that you can blitz him and have success. Tebow is a strong runner, but he's not an elusive scrambler like a Vince Young. With a guy like Young, you want to contain him and maintain lane integrity, which means little blitzing. With Tebow, you can (and should) put as much pressure on him as possible when he's throwing. For all of his success running the ball, he is really not any more mobile in the pocket than a guy like Matt Flynn is. So teams have figured out to pressure him.
With Florida not at their best on the offensive line, and with their other key playmaker Percy Harvin at less than 100%, Florida's offense is ailing. They still have a lot of team speed, but if this game holds to form for the SEC so far this season, team speed is perhaps not going to be that important. Plus, LSU has their own team speed.
Defensively, Florida has the 3rd best scoring defense in the conference, giving up an average of only 11.4 points per game. And while they've benefited from playing one or two offensively challenged teams, like Tennessee and Hawaii, it's hard to discount this statistic completely.
However, if you break down their defense a little further, you see they're giving up yards. While they're 3rd in scoring defense, they are 7th in the conference in scoring total defense, giving up 265 yards per game. They're right about average in the conference in both rushing defense and passing defense.
What explains the disparity between yardage given up and points given up? I think you can point right to the Arkansas game. Arkansas racked up 361 yards and moved the ball fairly easily against the Florida defense, but Florida stiffened and/or got turnovers whenever Arkansas actually threatened to score points. If Florida gives up 2 more touchdowns and a field goal to Arkansas (recalling that Arkansas ended 7 drives in or near scoring territory and only scored once), they're down from 3rd in scoring defense to 5th, which is a lot more representative of how good their defense is, in my opinion.
Their defense is athletic, but I think is weak on the line, and LSU with its power running game and play action game can probably have success there. We can also take advantage of injuries on the defense, including to starting linebacker Dustin Doe, who is out with hernia surgery.
I'm just going to say it in bold print here. I think that right now, LSU is a better team than Florida. I think LSU's offense is better than Florida's defense, and I think LSU's defense is better than Florida's offense, particularly if we can eliminate the occasional coverage breakdown. Our lines are better. Our team is healthier:
Junior middle linebacker Darry Beckwith said he expected to be back at practice Monday after missing the last three-plus weeks after he tweaked a knee against North Texas.
“They’re going to let me go full throttle and see how I do,” Beckwith said.
Defensive tackle Ricky Jean-Francois said he planned to sit Monday out to let his sore groin rest for one more day. A Miami native, Jean-Francois said he will play against Florida.
OK, so that's not a ringing endorsement of either player's health, but it's a start, and it's better than Florida's situation, even though it does not address the Charles Alexander situation.
Plus, I get a bad vibe from this Florida team. I don't think they're entirely right at this point. I don't think it's nearly as bad as the Tennessee or Auburn situations, but I get the feeling all is not happy in Gainesville, especially after the loss to Ole Miss. This is a team that is supposed to be a national title contender, and that disappointment that comes with a loss in that situation can be palpable and difficult to get past. My instinct tells me that they haven't done that yet.
*To put up a pre-emptive strike against accusations, let me just say that I know Sonny Shipp at Scout wrote an article with many of the same statistical comparisons between 2007 Tebow and 2008 Tebow. I wrote this part of this article before I read that article, and the similarities are coincidental. My inspiration for this section was not the Scout article, but rather this Advocate article, which compares the two, but not in as much depth as either Sonny's article or my own.
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unfortunately
i think the tigahs are gonna roll. maybe not a complete ass whipping, but only b/c its in the swamp.
by gerry dorsey on
Oct 8, 2008 8:59 AM CDT
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Very fair analysis...
… and one that I largely agree with as a Gator fan. In fact I think I completely agree, although I’m not ready to say that LSU’s offense is better than Florida’s defense. Our defense has been pretty good this year, several big blown plays against Ole Miss notwithstanding.
I think it’ll be a tight game but right now I have to give the edge to LSU. But I will of course be cheering on the Gators.
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by Gatorpilot on
Oct 8, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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Oh...
Score prediction: 32-27, LSU leaves the Swamp with a perfect record.
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by Gatorpilot on
Oct 8, 2008 2:05 PM CDT
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great great post
even if it was plagiarized
(kidding)
Its pretty hard not to like Tebow. As a person that is.
Very interesting point about the lines. We are not a team you want to go against while rebuilding your lines. Meyer is no dummy though. I’m thinking we are going to see all kinds of things from them on saturday, but if we can manage to avoid big blow up plays whether it be blown coverage or misdirection, I like our odds. We are going to be a very strong 4th quarter team due to our oline and scott and the rotation on our d line.
Its going to be a war out there.
What is the deal with Harvin? That guy is hurt more than Charles Alexander.
by nepomo on
Oct 8, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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Miles' bet vs Meyer's bet
(I tried to make this a fanpost, but kept getting a proxy error. So, here it goes.)
Urban Meyer is an offensive guy a spread guy. Miles was an offensive lineman. This seems to shape their strategy’s in recruiting.
I was reading that Urban Meyer wants to have “the fastest team in america”, and was talking up how 12 players on his team can run the 40 in 4.4 or less.
I think that Miles is quietly going after the biggest and deepest lines in america.
Look at this!
2006
Matt Allen OL 6-3 285
Phil Loadholt OL 6-9 345
Jacob O’Hair OL 6-1 250
Steven Singleton OL 6-3 285
Mark Snyder OL 6-7 270
Zhamal Thomas OL 6-4 335
Lazarius Levingston DE 6-4 265
Charles Deas DT 6-4 315
Al Woods DT 6-4 329
2007
Josh Dworaczyk OL 6-5 263
T-Bob Hebert OL 6-3 256
Jarvis Jones OL 6-7 250 (kicked off team)
Ernest McCoy OL 6-5 330
Kentravis Aubrey DE 6-3 285
Sidell Corley DE 6-4 250
Joseph Barksdale DT 6-6 323 (now an OT)
Will Blackwell DT 6-4 296
Drake Nevis DT 6-1 281
2008
Cordian Hagans OL 6-5 300
Alex Hurst OL 6-6 312
P.J. Lonergan OL 6-4 288
Thomas Parsons OL 6-6 270
Greg Shaw OL 6-5 267
Clay Spencer OL 6-5 285
Chase Clement DE 6-5 241
Lavar Edwards DE 6-4 300
Chancey Aghayere DT 6-4 244
2009 (and counting)
Carneal Ainsworth OL 6-4 296
Chris Faulk OL 6-6 310
Stavion Lowe OL 6-5 294
Josh Williford OL 6-7 345
Michael Brockers DE 6-6 255
Chris Davenport DT 6-4 318
Josh Downs DT 6-1 275
In the past three years he has taken somewhere from 4 to 6 offensive lineman per class. Granted some of these guys (especially from 2006) never made it to lsu, were a bust, or transferred, 4-6 a year is a lot. Especially considering he got Herman Johnson, Brett Helms, and Ryan Miller in 2004 and Ciron Black and Lyle Hitt (converted from DT) in 2005. The number of dline recruits are high as well considering Dorsey, Favorite, and Wroten were all recruited in 2004. (I concede in hindsight it is easier to say this because, when a Dorsey or Ciron were recruited, the coaches didnt know exactly what they were going to get out them.)
Some of them dont seem that big, but this is their weight coming out of high school. LSU and Moffitt mutate this good sized lineman into monsters in about 18 months of signing.
LSU and Florida will always have plenty of speed at the skill positions and good size on their lines whether it is sought out out or not. If you are being intentional in designing your teams identity I think building big dominating lines is a better bet to go with than building ultra high speed at the skill positions.
Why?
A dominant oline with a strong runner will control the clock and wont allow the speedsters time to do their damage. It will also open things up for your passing game. A dominant dline (most important in my opinion) will stop their running game and will disrupt their passing game.
Obviously, this is a “both and” situation not an “either or”. You’d rather have the biggest lines AND the fastest players. Miles and Meyer are both trying to achieve that. There are the “no crap” recruits, the tall fast recievers, or the big strong lineman that every coach goes after regardless of what they have already, but then there are the “discretionary” recruits. A discretionary recruit is one where you dont have a need per say but would like to build strength in an area. Lets say you have one remaining scholarship and you are pretty good at lets say oline and reciever. There are two good but not great recruits and one is a lineman and one is a fast little reciever. It looks like Miles would use his discretinary recruit for the lineman while Meyer might aim for the reciever.
We’ll see who bet correctly come saturday.
by nepomo on
Oct 8, 2008 3:26 PM CDT
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I take back what I said
I think Florida will win big! Heh, heh.
Well, I didn’t see the absolute stomping Florida gave LSU coming either, in fact I predicted a close loss. Glad my guys believed in themselves more than I did.
LSU did make it a bit of a game for awhile — I was pretty nervous after they scored that TD to open the second half. However, Florida’s domination on both sides of the ball, particularly the trenches, plus completely solid special teams play kept LSU from ever getting back within arm’s reach.
I have a lot of respect for LSU — every year the Tigers seem so difficult to beat. To administer a beatdown against such a good team is special. Good luck the rest of the way — we may meet again in the SEC title game.
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by Gatorpilot on
Oct 12, 2008 12:44 AM CDT
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