Assorted Grumbling
HAVING FUN
I said last week I haven’t enjoyed this year that much. And it’s true. And I was going to take this week off, hanging out with some old friends who couldn’t care less about LSU. Then that score popped up on the screen: Troy 31, LSU 3. I scrambled to find a computer, loaded up LSU Sports Net, and listened to the fourth quarter. And it was awesome. That was an enormously exciting game, especially when you don’t suffer through the whole falling behind part. Rude? Yes, but this is LSU’s season on the brink.
By the end of the game, it was like we had won the national title again. OK, we never should have been that far down to Troy, but I just enjoyed the hell out of that comeback. It showed heart. The team had their backs against the wall and the season looked like it was about to spiral out of control, and instead the team rallied and launched a huge comeback. You can question the talent or the play-calling, but don’t question this team’s heart. This was gut check time and the team came through.
Games like this are why we are fans. LSU turned what looked to be the most depressing loss since UAB into a pretty magical night. In five years, you’ll be able to meet 100,000 people who were at the game and were one of the few who didn’t leave early. I was proud to be an LSU fan because the team showed grit. They didn’t throw in the towel. They didn’t let themselves be embarrassed.
I was proud of this team.
OUR HISTORY AS FANS
Pittman and I went to LSU at the same time. We were there for the end of the Curly Hallman Era and the beginning of the Gerry Dinardo Era. I think it is safe to say, we were students during the absolute nadir of LSU football history. And I went to every game and cheered my fool head off for the Tigers.
I don’t think this makes me a better fan than anyone else or anything silly like that, but those losing years have definitely shaped my attitudes towards rooting for LSU. Somewhere around the sixth straight losing season, I made a promise to myself that I would never, ever bitch about an LSU team that wins eight games. Because, frankly, that’s what got us into the Archer/Hallman mess. The fans demanded LSU fire a coach who went 8-3 every year and then we ended up praying one day we would go 8-3 just once ever again.
It’s a scene that has been repeated at other programs as well (ask an A&M fan about RC Slocum). Going 8-3 and being ranked in the top 25 every year is a very healthy program. Would I rather we win a national title every year? Of course. But that doesn’t happen most places, and it’s never been the case at LSU until this last half decade. I’m not saying we shouldn’t complain about 8-3 because we shouldn’t demand excellence, I’m saying going 8-3 every year IS excellence.
The sense of entitlement our fanbase has acquired in such a short period of time is truly staggering. I can understand the student body not getting it, but they have actually been the same rowdy student body we should expect. It’s the alumni in the stands who are leading the boo birds and leaving games early (yes, I understand people leave early sometimes – but three-quarters of the stadium? What about the Georgia game when people left in droves as well?). Who the hell are these 30+ year old fans with no memory of losing games in the 1990s. We’re not talking like it was eons ago. The bring back the Magic Game was a mere thirteen years ago. You’d think we’d remember the losing years a little more clearly.
I can't bring myself to be upset over a team headed towards a New Year's Day Bowl. I live in Dallas, so if it is the Cotton Bowl... party at my place.
LEE
The comments here over the past week have renewed my faith in the LSU Nation, and I’m hoping we do represent the Silent Majority of LSU fans who are disappointed, but still go out there and cheer our fool heads off for the Tigers. We don’t take joy in the failures of players, and we certainly wouldn’t boo or harass these kids who represent our university to the best of their ability for no pay. These guys sacrifice their bodies for our enjoyment, and most of them don’t have an NFL paycheck waiting for them. The payment they receive is the cheers of the crowd and the status of being an LSU football player. We should remember that before we open up our big fat mouths to talk bad about them.
Criticizing a player is certainly inbounds, but it shouldn’t cross the line into nastiness. Personal attacks, it should go without saying, should never happen. And taking a perverse delight in a player’s misfortune is just mean-spirited. So, on behalf of Jarrett Lee, who I think has composed himself with a great deal of class and dignity this season, I will say what I’m sure he would never say to those who have booed him, made fun of him, or threatened him: f*** you, you losers.
I’ll be honest. Jarrett Lee is becoming one of my favorite Tigers ever. Because it takes a lot of strength to listen to so many boos and so much negativity only to keep coming out there. I find it hard to relate to great players, but I can relate to Lee. He has failed, sometimes spectacularly so. I hate to lay the Alabama game on one player, but he did play a pretty miserable game. But he also had a great drive in the fourth quarter of that game. He never, ever gives up. He knows there is no one to back him up, he’s the only option. In the spring, he was our third string quarterback, and now he’s the only quarterback we have. He wasn’t ready, but he hasn’t whined or complained. The fans have turned on him pretty viciously, but he still plays his heart out for them. And he has delivered. Not always, but enough. He has this team at 7-3, which isn’t too bad for a third-stringer.
I may be proud of the team, but I’m especially proud of our quarterback. I don’t care who Pittman hands out the hardware to, but Lee is my ATVSSECOSPPOW. Thanks, Jarrett. We’re cheering for you.
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I was one of those fools living in the same dorm as Poseur and Pittman in the 90s. I remember being elated about going to the Independence Bowl—it had been so long since we had a Bowl game. Back then, winning two national championships in 5 years and three SEC championships in 7 years seemed like a ridiculous dream. As I have said many times, we are living in the Golden Age of LSU Football.
Incidentally, when we nearly lost to Ole Miss in 2006 I got the idea when The Golden Age of LSU Football does end, we’ll trace it to a game in which we lost to a team that had no business beating us. Don’t think I didn’t have that on my mind Saturday night. Today we are still living in The Golden Age of LSU Football. Don’t forget it.
As far as Poseur being in the dumps, forlorn, and suffering, I’ll reveal a conversation we had shortly after we beat OU in the Sugar Bowl. I asked if we didn’t have another winning season for 10 years in exchange for the national championship, would it be worth it. We agreed it was a no-brainer—we would have done 20 years. And that wasn’t all. He later wrote a long diatribe about how the Mike Archer years, the Curly Hallman years, Jamie Howard’s interceptions at Auburn, losing to Florida by 50, getting shut out by Alabama, blowing a 9 point lead to Alabama after downing a punt inside their 10 with 2 minutes to play (in which a TD pass bounced off a Tiger’s helmet, dammit!), losing to Auburn despite 200 yards from Cecil Collins, watching Tim Couch convert 4th and 41, and a bunch of other heartbreaking moments were all worth it. Worth it! Every last one was worth it in exchange for The Golden Age of LSU Football.
Yeah, and we didn’t even lose to Troy.
by uberschuck on
Nov 17, 2008 10:32 PM CST
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I Agree. . .
with a lot of what Pittman and Poseur have posted these last couple of days.
I have been an LSU fan for a vast majority of my life. My mother and father instilled in me the importance of LSU athletics at an early age. From my first visit to Tiger Stadium and the weekend double headers at Alex Box, LSU has been an important facet of my life.
I know it sounds cliche, but I was in Tiger Stadium for the ‘Earthquake Game’ against Auburn in ‘88. My high school girlfriend was able to get tickets in the North End Zone. Needless to say, that was a defining moment in my ’fandom’(sic).
I chose to attend the university in the early 90s. During my years at school, I longed for the time when we could go to a game and not worry about getting our backsides handed to us on a weekly basis. Yet, I still attended all the games that I could while I was a student. I fell in love with a program that was not that good. In fact, at times, embarrasing. When LSU began it’s climb to national relevance, I was attending games every week, when National Guard duties allowed.
Which brings me to our current state of affairs. I am thuroughly enjoying the “Golden Age” of LSU football. I am not among the negative crowd who seems to relish in the team’s, player’s or coach’s struggles. I appreciate the players for what they are; student athletes who play a sport that they don’t and, for most, will not ever get paid for. I may get frustrated about the play, but I will never, repeat, NEVER denigrate an 18-24 year old who is trying to perform his best and sometimes falling short.
People, enjoy it while it lasts. Savor the times as they are now. Be a true Tiger Fan and have fun with it. We have no clue as to how long this joy ride will last. Hopefully for many years to come. Just so you know, if it does end, I won’t be jumping ship. I’ll be there to cheer and root for victory as long as I am able.
by Purpletiger006 on
Nov 18, 2008 11:17 AM CST
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