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LSU Post-Regular Season: Tuesday Post (or A Look Back at the 2006 Recruiting Class)

I hear lots of talk about how wonderfully talented LSU is, and how this season has stunk despite the loads of talent LSU sports on both sides of the ball.  

Personally, I am somewhat doubtful about how talented we supposedly are.  If we're so talented, where were all the great individual efforts?  Where were the spectacular interceptions, the electrifying punt returns, the dramatic bull rushes, the tremendous speed to the ball from the linebackers?  No.  I don't see any signs that our veterans are a particularly talented group, and I point right at the 2006 recruiting class as a huge problem with the program.  

The 2006 class was generally considered solid.  It was Les Miles' first full class at LSU, as the 2005 class was necessarily small, and Miles had only just been hired when it was filling up.  The 2006 players are juniors now, or redshirt sophomores, except for Shomari Clemons who had to greyshirt to get academically eligible and is currently a redshirt freshman.

According to Rivals, the 2006 class had two 5-stars, twelve 4-stars, and eleven 3-stars.  That's not bad at all if you believe the recruiting sites.

That's 25 in all, plus a walk-on long snapper.  Here's the breakdown:

  • 3 never made it to LSU because of academic problems (Jason Teague, Phil Loadholt, and Charles Deas)
  • 6 left the team before ever playing a down (Matt Allen, Troy Giddens, Derrick Odom, Mark Snyder, Zhamal Thomas, Steven Singleton)
  • 1 other left the program to pursue other opportunities (J.D. Lott)
  • 3 more are still on the team, but have never made significant contributions (Ricky Dixon, Pep Levingston, Jacob O'Hair)
  • 3 are role players who provide depth at their position, but really nothing more, and do not appear to be ready to break out into star players (Jacob Cutrera, Chris MItchell, Jared Mitchell)
  • 7 have played a fair bit, and may yet emerge as something more than role players, but right now are not really stars (Kelvin Sheppard, Perry Riley, Jai Eugene, Danny McCray, Richard Murphy, Keiland Williams, and Al Woods)
  • 1 is still just a redshirt freshman and we don't really know what he brings yet (Shomari Clemons)
  • 2 can be said to be very good players at their positions (Richard Dickson and Charles Scott)
  • 0 All-America type players at this point

I would be a little friendlier to Charles Scott if he'd been more productive against Ole Miss and Arkansas, but that might not be entirely his fault.  That's an entire recruiting class, ranked 7th in the nation in the year it occurred, in which none of them have really emerged as being the kinds of players who can carry a team 3 years later.  These guys are among the veterans on this team now, but with the exceptions of Dickson and Scott there really aren't any established stars.  The stars are either older (Tyson Jackson, Brandon Lafell, Ciron Black) or younger (Patrick Peterson, Drake Nevis, etc.)

I do not fault Miles for the state of affairs that this class has seen.  It's not like LSU let a lot of great players go out of state in this recruiting class.  Only Ole Miss's Kentrell Lockett really looks like a player LSU should have gone after and gotten.  Chris Brown at Oklahoma is another, but it's not like LSU lacks running backs (or so it seems), and we got a 5-star and two 4-stars in this class.

I guess we can fault him for getting so MANY players who ended up not making the grade character-wise or just didn't make the grades (Troy Giddens, Zhamal Thomas, Derrick Odom, Charles Deas, Phil Loadholt, and Jason Teague), and for being so disastrously wrong on the offensive line, with not a single commitment on the offensive line from 2006 still being on the team even at the START of the 2008 season.  I mean seriously, not one offensive line recruit from the 2006 class ever played a down at LSU.  Not one.

You can say we should have gone out and gotten better players, and that's all well and good, but LSU recruiting will live and die by how the in-state group looks.  In 2006, in retrospect it wasn't that great, and neither was the class.  The 2007 class looks a lot better, and the 2008 class looks pretty good as well.  The experts believe the 2009 class from Louisiana is outstanding, and if we can keep them all in state, the rebuilding of the program should be just about complete.

And yes, I know a lot of people will bring up the S-man, but if you want to look at another stinker of a recruiting class, take a look some time at the 2002 class.  Just be sure to bring a shovel, because you will need it.*

*To be fair, the 2002 class includes former LSU standouts Kyle Williams, Skyler Green, Nate Livings, Cameron Vaughn, and Justin Vincent (who was also a part of the 2003 class), all of whom were contributors and/or stars on some very good teams, but the class as a whole was pretty awful.

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So you are blaming RS Sophs and true Jrs for this team's...

problems? Wow.

Kelvin Sheppard (behind a Sr in 2007), Perry Riley (behind a Sr in 2007), Jai Eugene (behind a Sr in 2007) and Danny McCray (behind a Sr in 2008) all ended up as starters.

Richard Murphy and Keiland Williams have made some dazzling plays, and were occasional starters in 2007.

Pep is probably a starter next yr as a Jr (behind a Sr in 2008). Same for Woods (behind Sr in 2008). Same for Cutrera (behind a Sr in 2008).

The rest is typical attrition. The best point you could make from that group is how the OL and Wrs havent contributed from that class.

But to act like that class is the problem is redonkulousness of the highest order.

The guys above that are starters only did so in 2008 so they are way short on experience. The rest were behind Srs this yr.

Sorry, but there are plenty of places to lay blame than on a class that hasnt quite gotten an opportunity yet. If they arent more productive next yr, then post and article like this.

by Jadmercury on Dec 2, 2008 9:13 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he was saying its A problem not THE problem with the team this year.

This whole topic does shed some light to the leadership and talent situation. 2005 and 2006 were brutal recruiting years for the tigers. The jewel of the 13 man 2005 class was Perriloux… If Richard’s math is right, the 2006 class for all practical purposes was 15 people.

So, for those two years combined, that makes 27 recruits instead of say 40-45 (assume in a normal year we would get 22-24 and then lose a couple for whatever reason). Thats a difference of 13-18 players. Chances are we would of gotten a couple studs in that 13-18. Maybe a stud outside linebacker or defensive end. Whatever it may be, the loss is most likely a material one. When you compound this loss of talent, the loss potential leadership from the portion of the 13-18 who would be upperclassman , the Dual D Cor mess, and your starting QB getting kicked off the team, it makes for a miserable season. Add back some off these losses and you’ve got to think, we at least would have been competitive in some of the blow outs and maybe win the bama or ark game.

The small 2005 class was unavoidable. The 2006 mess was not. To Miles’s credit, he saw the mistake and isn’t repeating it. There are some very talented guys that he is not offering due to grades. Eddie Lacy to name one, is a dam good in state running back, and Miles is not offering.

Its going to take some time to get things back in order. From a coaching side, a leadership side, and a talent side. In my opinion, we are 2-3 years out before humpty dumpty starts looking like the 2007 team again.

by nepomo on Dec 2, 2008 5:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it's a combination of problems

The attrition from this class has been horrendous, and while some amount of attrition is to be expected, to lose 10 players before their 3rd season begins is kind of a lot.

The other problem is just that so few have emerged as game-changers. Charles Scott and Richard Dickson are really about it. And while there is still time, keep in mind that a lot of these guys are going to be seniors next year. Of Perry Riley, Jacob Cutrera, C. Mitchell, J. Mitchell, Keiland Williams, Danny McCray, and Al Woods, all of whom will be seniors next season, are any of them going to be even 3rd team All-conference in the pre-season? No. Not one of those guys will be. These aren’t young players. These are the veterans. Really, for those guys, this was the year. If they were going to break out into great players, they would have done it this year. Those who redshirted get a little reprieve, but I think if you expect that players haven’t come really close to their peak yet after their 3rd season in the program, you’re fooling yourself (this is directed to Jadmercury). For these players, what you see is what you get.

I’ll give you Jai. He’s played well, I think. In fact, I agree with you that he should have been given a chance on the other side of the field. Or Peterson should have. Kelvin Sheppard’s kind of in the same boat as a pretty good player with perhaps some room to grow, and keep in mind these guys are in the “may yet emerge as something more than role players” group. I acknowledge it’s not time to give up on them becoming game-changers.

And there’s nothing wrong with being a role player. Every team has to have them. The problem is that the 2006 class has produced an insufficient number of game-changers, and that has set our talent level a little behind.

Richard Pittman

by Richard Pittman on Dec 2, 2008 8:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indeed...

it would be more worthwhile to look at what is left over from 2004 and that small 2005 class…because there does lie part of the problem. Only 8 players left from ’05 and 10 from ’04…those are your upperclassmen that are supposed to be leading the way.

by Jadmercury on Dec 2, 2008 9:17 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2005 is a pretty good class

when you consider how small the 2005 class was, it was really a very good class. That class gave us Ciron Black, Darry Beckwith, Brandon Lafell, Rahim Alem, and Ricky Jean-Francois, and a couple of other nice role players as well. For a class that was unavoidably small, that’s a pretty solid group of game-changing type players. Jean-Francois and Beckwith had pretty crappy years, but Beckwith has the excuse of injury. Rahim Alem appears to on the verge of being an All-SEC type, and Ciron Black could end up as the most dedicated offensive lineman in LSU history. Brandon Lafell is an outstanding wide receiver.

So, 2005 gives us 5 game-changing type players, 4 if you don’t count RJF. The 2006 class has given us 2, and it was twice as big.

Richard Pittman

by Richard Pittman on Dec 2, 2008 8:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good Post

I appreciate the time you put into this post, I bet it took a little time. This year was an embarrassment, no other way around it. I know you can’t point your finger at the ‘06 class alone, but it is a good start. And I know you’re not even pointing to the players themselves, you’re pointing at the coaching staff. The best statement in the post is “I guess we can fault him for getting so MANY players who ended up not making the grade character-wise or just didn’t make the grades” Hopefully Miles has learned his lesson, and looking at the moral fiber of this class I think he’s done a great job. You can’t just recruit good football players, you have to recruit leaders, or else it’s going to blow up in your face ala (insert player name here). Russel Sheppard and Michael Ford are both outstanding young men. I’ve watched Janzen Jackson play a few games and he get’s excited when he makes a great play, but never showboats. The interviews I’ve read of the other recruits leave me with the impression that they are mature beyond their years.

These guys (‘06 class) are supposed to be talented, but it hasn’t translated into consistency with the exception of McCray, he has been consistently a step behind. Jai Eugene really stepped it up this year after having an abysmal freshman season, only to be knocked down the depth chart by freshman sensation Patrick Peterson. Man I wish Jai would move over to the other side of the field and take Chris Hawkins spot. I’m not saying I think Chris is bad, I just think he’s the 3rd best corner we have. I hope that Kelvin Sheppard and Perry Riley make the same off season gains that Jai did this past spring. Speaking of hopes, I still have much hope for Keiland and Crazy Legs.

All in all, I see 2010 as LSU’s rise to dominance once again. I just hope that Miles doesn’t let an in state talent escape..

"I don't care if i throw for 1,000 yards or 5,000 yards. Baton Rouge loves championships and I'm coming to put more banners up." - Russell Shepard

by CCTV on Dec 2, 2008 3:54 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are we missing one?

Isn’t Trindon Holliday a part of the 2006 class too?

by uberschuck on Dec 2, 2008 11:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jacob O'Hair

Jacob O’Hair has graduated (JC transfer) in 2008 and I am happy to say you never knew his impact since all of his deep snaps were nearly flawless. Just wanted to point this out as Jacob’s position should be unknown if he was doing it right and he did do the job.

by watson1880 on Dec 3, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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