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Recruiting Update, Part 4: The Backup Plans

In Part 3 of this series, we discussed the wish list for the remainder of the recruiting season.  Now we will go into what would happen if we do not get the players we really wants.

If we don't get Reuben Randle:

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Reuben Randle may end up at Bama, and if he does then Gadsden, Alabama wide receiver Kendall Kelly will probably come to LSU.  Randle is an exceptional player, but Kelly's a pretty solid prospect himself.  He is listed as a 5-star on Scout, and a 4-star on Rivals.  He is a tall receiver at 6'4" with some real size to him at 210#.  You have to figure he will probably end up playing at around 230#, which is a great size for a wideout.  He also has excellent speed, being listed between 4.45 and 4.5 seconds in the forty.  I don't think he has the exceptional body control or hands that Randle has, and that's what truly separates these two players.  Kelly's more of a project than Randle, and is not quite as fluid of an athlete, but if he develops he could be an outstanding wide receiver wherever he goes.

Rumors out of Gadsden say that Kelly is definitely not going to Bama.  He is rumored to be disenchanted with Alabama, and is even supposedly separating himself from his friends and teammates who are going to Tuscaloosa, including teammate and 5-star Dre Kirkpatrick.  One wonders if this is true, or where he will end up if indeed Randle goes to LSU.  Bama is going to have a pretty small class, and they can't wait around too long for their guys.  Kelly is reportedly also considering Clemson pretty heavily.  He is reportedly waiting to see what Randle does, and if Randle goes elsewhere, he will come here.

If Darren Myles does not come to LSU:

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OK, I know what you're thinking.  You're going all Grandpa Simpson on us and thinking, "A white kid?!?!?!"  Slow down.  Josh Johns from Central High School in Baton Rouge looks pretty good actually.  Darren Myles is clearly the target for LSU at safety, but he is far from a sure thing, and may be a lost cause.  LSU definitely wants two safeties in this class, and while Craig Loston is one, we don't exactly know who the other will be.  One name that keeps popping up is that of Johns.  And while Josh Johns is not a household name in recruiting circles, as he is only a 2-star on Rivals and a 3-star on Scout, his highlight reel is actually pretty impressive.  He hits hard, and does not look at all slow out there.  His measurables are right up there with higher rated safeties, as he is 6'2" 210#, runs a forty in the 4.5's, and has a 32-inch vertical (and it shows).  Darren Myles is the better prospect at this point, but it is hard to say that he is all that much better.

Johns is a guy they say may get an offer regardless of what happens with Darren Myles, and I believe he could probably step right in and be a contributor on special teams.  Don't be fooled by his Comic-Con looks.  The kid can play.  It remains to be seen how his game will translate to the next level, but I think he has a real shot.  In fact, he looks like he could put on more bulk and end up at a linebacker spot rather than a safety spot.  He may be a backup plan more to Jarvis Jones than to Darren Myles.

If Jarvis Jones does not come to LSU:

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I may be stretching a bit here, as the coaches may not actually have a backup plan to Jarvis Jones.  They may be done at linebacker if Jones doesn't want to be a Tiger.  If there is a backup plan, however, I think it is probably Sulfur linebacker Tahj Jones.  Tahj at one time considered himself to be committed to LSU, but his commitment was refused because of academic considerations.  He was reportedly far away from qualifying before the end of his junior year.  

Jones claims to have made considerable progress in reaching his academic requirements, though not even he claims he's all the way there yet.  Jones is a prototypical spread-defending linebacker, with good lateral movement and speed without a lot of bulk.  He's listed at 6'2" and 210# on Scout, but only 185# on Rivals.  That's too small even for a spread linebacker, but look for him to add weight wherever he goes to college.  

If Sam Montgomery does not come to LSU:

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This is Bennie Logan from Red River High School in Coushatta, Louisiana.  He's another defensive end who is not particuarly bulky at 6'3" and 235#.  Just looking at him in that picture, you get the sense he could easily add a lot of weight, and he reportedly has gotten bigger in his senior season.  

He recently presented some senior film to the recruiting sites, and the message boards denizens gushed over how good it looked.  His senior film was pretty good, and in my opinion partially made up for the fact that his junior film is not so good.  On his junior film, I thought that while he was clearly bigger, stronger, and faster than anyone else on the field, he did not look like a fluid athlete to me.  He looked like he lacked quickness and had a hard time changing direction.  The senior film was better, but then again he was one year more mature.  It is hard to compare Logan to other prospects for whom only junior year footage is available.  Presumably, those guys were similarly improved in their senior years.

But enough of that.  While Sam Montgomery appears to be a highly athletic pass rusher in the Dwight Freeney mold, Logan looks like more of a standard defensive end, along the lines of what LSU has stuck with in the last few years.  While Montgomery looks like a monster rushing the passer, Logan looks like more of a run stuffer, an all-around defensive end in the Kirston Pittman or Pep Levingstong mold.

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So Dandy Don finally said this morning...

What everyone has been thinking for a while now.

“I expect 4-6 players to transfer after the bowl game.”

There is no way we can bring in this many recruits with our current scholarship numbers. I remember back in the spring when we were guessing that we could bring in 16, maybe 18 with some juniors leaving. Now we’ve got 20 commits, with probably 4 slots still open if the right guys commit.

So who will be transferring? I’m going to throw out a few names with a quick sentance explaining why they might transfer.

Jarrett Lee. This is pretty self explanatory. If the Bayou Bengal Blog knew what they were talking about, this kid is the most unpopular kid on campus, and if you’re Jarrett Lee you are good enough to not have to put up with that crap. It’s a shame too, Lee was becoming my favorite tiger ever.

Stefoin Francois. Pure speculation here, but with all the problems we had at the safety position this year, if this kid couldn’t rack up any playing time this year, when would he be able to? Hatcher saw the field and he’s a year younger. We’ve got Loston coming in, with the possibility of another top safety signing in this class, and there were lots of rumors of Francois in Miles’ dog house. I’d hate to see him go. There was a lot of hype around this kid when he signed.

Shomari Clemons. Again, pure speculation, with basically the same story just a different chapter as above. Our LB’s were not very good. Perry Riley really grew into his position late, but I would think that if Clemons was an impact player the coaches would have tried him out this year, especially when Beckwith got hurt. There were also rumors of Clemons being in the dog house.

Chancey Aghayere. This one has even less meat to it than the previous theories, and wouldn’t even be considered a “transfer”. Basically, if Chancey wasn’t able to come back from his (knee??) injury from last year, he would get a medical scholarship and would no longer count against our 85 limit.

Those 4 players would be in addition to juniors like Ciron, Lafell and RJF who could turn pro. All 7 of those players leaving would likely free up enough slots such that only 1-3 gray shirts would have to be given out. Hopefully, Ciron and Lafell stay which would likely mean 2 other players would be “asked to find other opportunities”. With the recent rumors of us being in “pretty good shape” with Randle, I can only assume that is due to Lafell likely leaning pro, which would likely turn the depth chart in Randle’s favor just enough to sway him to LSU.

by LSU Jonno on Dec 22, 2008 9:25 AM CST reply actions  

LSU Jonno, I’ve heard the same thing on Francois and Clemons. I don’t know if Lee will transfer. He certainly has all the reason to, but a lot of people on the boards seem to think he is staying.

I saw you put Chancey’s name on there and I was thinking “NO WAY,” then noticed you had him on a medical redshirt.

As for players leaving, it seems Lafell is 50/50 and everyone seems to think Ciron is staying (which would be awesome considering we thought he was gone at the beginning of the year). I have mixed feelings on RJF. He didn’t do enough this year to get his stock high. Everyone says it’s his grades that are bad. However, he obviously made his grades to play in the bowl game. So…any grade speculation would be that he “won’t” make his grades next semester.

by Bob Barker on Dec 22, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, as far as Chancey goes I haven’t heard anything one way or the other about his injury situation. But because I haven’t heard anything I was starting to wonder. I’m surprised my “inside guy” hasn’t said “Chancey is going to be a beast next year” or something like that. I just threw his name out there hopefully so someone would give me the “No, LSU Jonno you’re a moron, Chancey is the man and is fine”.

Another name to think about is Andrew Crutchfield. Jasper seems like the better kicker out of those two and they came in the same class. The fact that we are brining in another kicker in this class, a JUCO at that, to me means that we aren’t happy with our current kickers. Plus, I can’t think of the kid’s name right now, but we had a walk-on kicker last year who probably red shirted this year who can kick longer kick-offs than Crutchfield. I think his name is Drew Alleman or something. I think that would make Crutchfield the 4th kicker on the depth chart going into next year and there is no reason to waste a scholly on a 4th string kicker. I think Lee, Clemons, Francois, and Crutchfield are the most likely to transfer. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want ANY of these guys leaving but I’m sure the coaches are handling this situation as well as humanly possible. Say what you want about Miles’ coaching abilities but for these management type moves, I don’t think there is anyone better.

RJF we’ll have to wait and see, but I became pretty disenchanted with him this year anyway. The Bayou Bengal Blog basically labeled him and Byrd as team cancers, and he seems to be more in the know than I am. Dandy Don also predicts that RJF will turn pro regardless of his draft status, and I’m not going to lie, when Dandy makes a statement like that it’s usually true. To me this is one of those “where there’s smoke there’s fire” situations.

by LSU Jonno on Dec 22, 2008 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, apparently there is another option Myles at safety now. Current verbal commit to USC. Can’t remember his name, but Brian something.

by Bob Barker on Dec 22, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Byron Moore

Safety Byron Moore, of Harbor City, California, is the guy you’re talking about. I’ll believe he’s coming to LSU if and when he announces a change in commitment. Not until then.

It seems like every year we hear stories of these guys who have been committed to one school for a long time but are suddenly reconsidering and looking elsewhere right at the end of the process. In my observation, 9 out of 10 of these guys stay committed to the original team. Particularly when the player is from far away and had not apparently ever been to LSU, it’s just one of those things I try not to get too excited about. He’s having some cold feet on his commitment and is looking around. It’s just not much to go on.

Besides, LSU has no luck whatsoever with these California guys. The last time we picked up a kid out of high school from California, he got homesick and left before the first game of his true freshman year. He’s in the NFL now (Lavelle Hawkins), but he was not a good fit for us because he was so far from home.

Richard Pittman

by Richard Pittman on Dec 22, 2008 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Attrition every year

It’s perfectly normal to have attrition from the program. As for who will leave, right now I don’t know enough to speculate. Every year though, at every school, players leave either to get playing time or because of disciplinary issues or just because they know their lives will not be spent playing football and they have already graduated.

Richard Pittman

by Richard Pittman on Dec 22, 2008 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

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