Piggy-Backing on the Chavis Post
They picked a bad time, blog-wise, to announce the hiring of John Chavis. I had really planned to let this slide until after the bowl game, but decided to go ahead and get my thoughts out there.
I'll be honest; I wanted Dewayne Walker. Walker was the sexy pick, a minority hire out of the West Coast with a reputation as a rising star in coaching circles, and a good recruiter to boot. I'm not bothered by coaches who appear to be on the way out the door once they're in the door, because if he gives you two great years and then bolts for a promotion, at least you got the two great years, and there's nothing in the world stopping you from hiring someone else.
I got John Chavis, who is kind of a boring pick. He's an old guy who's risen as far as he will likely go and he is an indifferent recruiter. Yes, he may be a very attractive man, but that's no reason to hire him. He's not a fresh face, and no young recruits are going to be energized by this pick. Yes, initially there is a little twinge of regret, but let's take a quick look at the product Chavis puts on the field.
His Volunteer defense was 4th in the nation in total defense last year, despite having an offense that could not stay on the field. I'll let noted Vols blogger Clay Travis take it from here:
Let me be succinct: great hire for LSU. Last year Tennessee's defense gave up 14touchdowns while on defense. Let me repeat that, 14. That's despite Tennessee's offense consistently putting the defense in the worst positions on the field. I'm in the process of reconstructing how many of those 14 touchdowns were on drives of 30 yards or less. At least two of those touchdowns were on drives that began, thanks to our woeful offense, inside the UT five yard line (Wyoming and South Carolina.)
From LSU Sports Palace, Chavis's defenses ranked 10th, 61st, 33rd, 16th, and 37th nationally the last 5 years in scoring defense. And that is without really a tremendous amount of talent on the field. Good talent, but not great talent. The talent Chavis has to work with at LSU will be at least as good as what he's had at Tennessee the last few years. That's a really good track record of putting good product on the field.
Back in 2004, Poseur and I were discussing the LSU hiring of Les Miles among some friends. Not everyone was thrilled with the hire, and I was reserving judgment. Poseur said of it (paraphrasing), "This is the kind of hire that will keep us at the top. It may not be a splashy hire, but now that we're at the top he will be able to keep us there." This past year notwithstanding, he has been exactly right, and I think the same conclusion is due of this hire.
John Chavis will make this defense hum. While he may not win the press conference, and may not sell a ton of recruits on the program right at the moment, he will improve the defense considerably. Once the defense is running better, the program won't miss a beat in selling itself. And if the defense is successful, he will probably be here for as long as Les Miles is, and honestly if the defense is successful, Miles will be here for a long time.
Now it is true that LSU will likely be losing two of its best recruiters in the shakeup on the defensive coaching staff, and those recruiters will have to be replaced with other strong recruiters, but when you're talking about the coordinator of one side of the ball, it is essential that you get the X's and O's right. There are still some position coaches to hire, and if the rumors are true that Ed Orgeron in about to be named as DL coach, that's a prime recruiter right there.
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Chavis was probably one of my two favorites.
I was never on the Walker band wagon. There was a lot of hype around him, but his numbers just weren’t that attractive. I also wouldn’t consider Chavis “old”.
Anytime you can get a coach with 20 years of SEC experience you’ve hit a home run.
I am a little worried about recruiting now since Peveto, Mallory and Lane were 3 of the best in the business. Someone said Chavis is known as a great recruiter in a previous post, and I would disagree there. I think the fact that our DC isn’t a great recruiter makes Orgeron all the more important on this team, however Poseur said Chavis is bringing a DE coach with him, which to me means Orgeron is out.
by LSU Jonno on
Dec 30, 2008 10:25 AM CST
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LSU Jonno,
Between those three guys, they only have 4 of our current commitments. All 4 of them by Peveto. I’m not even sure if Mallory recruits, though I do hear his name mentioned from time to time that he has talked to a prospect here and there. Lane is recruiting Will Campbell and I don’t even know of any others.
Mallory got 2 guys last year. Lane 2. And peveto 2. So they got 6 last year and 4 this year. For 3 coaches that is not a lot. Considering Porter got 7 last year and 5 so far this year by himself.
We had 2 DL coaches this year. Lane and Robinson. We could easily have 2 next year, especially since Orgeron would also have that asst HC and recruiting coord title. However, I still only expect 1.
by Bob Barker on
Dec 30, 2008 3:37 PM CST
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I actually looked it up on Rivals after I had already typed my comment.
You are right, Peveto will be a loss for recruiting but the other two look to be negligable. Seems like Porter is the guy.
I thought Lane and Mallory were bigger recruiting guys for us, but they aren’t your right.
As far as O goes, you never know how these ego’s work. Orgeron was a head coach for an SEC team two years ago. Him coming to LSU would mean co-Dline coach, asst HC, and co-recruiting coordinator. Lot of sharing of responsibilities for a former head coach. That’s my only point.
by LSU Jonno on
Dec 30, 2008 5:38 PM CST
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Lane recruits Florida
Every recruit we’ve gotten from Florida has been because of Lane, including Patrick Peterson. Lane’s recruiting is a very important part of this team’s success. He’s got the connections in Florida and he’s a good recruiter. He’s not irreplaceable in that respect, but don’t discount Lane’s contributions. Lane got two for the 2008 class, but one of them looks like an All-American, and the other could very well be our next left tackle. The year before, he signed 3, and one is our starting right tackle and one of the others could be starting next year.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on
Dec 30, 2008 10:04 PM CST
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You might want to wait for an official announcement...
cause there is a growing undercurrent that it isnt Chavis.
by Jadmercury on
Dec 30, 2008 11:45 AM CST
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where....?
ESPN, Dandy Don, and every other rumor board is pointing to Chavis. Who is saying different?
by Zandor435 on
Dec 30, 2008 1:00 PM CST
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I agree with Zandor, everyone is pointing to Chavis, not just a few guys. Also, if it weren’t true, we probably would have had a comment from Chavis by now saying it wasn’t him.
by Bob Barker on
Dec 30, 2008 3:30 PM CST
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