The BlogPoll Ballot Returns: LSU #11

by Poseur on Oct 12, 2009 8:15 AM CDT in Football

Hey, I've been submitting these things incognito, let's get your input on it this week:

Rank	Team	Delta

1	Alabama
2	Florida
3	Virginia Tech	1
4	Cincinnati	1
5	Iowa	4
6	Texas	3
7	Miami (Florida)	10
8	Boise State
9	Oregon	2
10	Southern Cal	3
11	LSU	5
12	Ohio State	2
13	TCU
14	Nebraska	5
15	Georgia Tech
16	Kansas	2
17	South Carolina	1
18	Wisconsin	2
19	South Florida	6
20	Notre Dame
21	Stanford
22	Auburn	10
23	Missouri	8
24	Penn State
25	Houston
Last week's ballot

Dropped Out: Mississippi (#22), Boston College (#23).

Taking it by groups of five again:

1 Bama
2 UF
3 VT
4 Cincy
5 Iowa

Bama's convincing win keeps them at #1, but Florida is knocking on the door again. If you'll notice, I've dropped Texas from the top five because they are still yet to beat a decent team. It's October. This is ridiculous. People are propping up OU right now, which I don't see at all, but at least it's a credible team. Texas can reclaim it's #3 rank, but for the love of Pete, play someone. And has anyone noticed the way VT is killing teams all of a sudden?

6 Texas
7 Miami
8 Boise
9 Oregon
10 USC

A little bit of re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic here. I couldn't bring myself to drop UT any further than #6, though I seriously considered it. Miami gets delayed gratification for playing that brutal four game stretch to start the season. Oregon keeps building the resume and there will come a point I will have to rank them ahead of a team they lost to, Boise, but not quite yet. USC is still lurking in the background. Yes, I know they lost to Washington, a team LSU beat, but USC has a better win and ultimately, that's more important. We focus too much on "Who Did You Lose To?" at the expense of "What Have You Accomplished?"

11 LSU
12 Ohio St
13 TCU
14 Nebraska
15 Georgia Tech

TCU looks shakier and shakier each week, but they keep winning. LSU and OSU have pretty good resumes and really good losses, so they are still in the hunt right now. Nebraska and GT actually look pretty similar to LSU and OSU.

16 Kansas
17 S Carolina
18 Wisconsin
19 USF
20 Notre Dame

The two most unimpressive undefeateds, Kansas and USF, find themselves here. South Carolina is quietly putting together a nice year and, man, ranking Notre Dame causes me to break out into hives. But they have earned it.

21 Stanford
22 Auburn
23 Mizzou
24 Penn St
25 Houston

I know, I'm the only person who does not believe in Penn State. They probably deserve a bump now that I'm ranking Iowa so highly. Screw it. this is what you get for playing nobody. Beat a team and then we'll talk. Auburn and Houston both have bad losses for different reasons (Auburn for getting killed, Houston for losing to UTEP), but I'm feeling forgiving. I don't really believe in Mizzou, but they lost in a monsoon to Nebraska. they get the benefit of the doubt for one more week, and I don't feel I'm keeping out a "must rank" kind of team. That means you, Oklahoma.

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Looks pretty good

My only quibble would be if you’re dropping Texas for not playing anybody, you should do the same to Cincy. Their best win is either Fresno State or Oregon State, depending on who you think is better.

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by The Bengal on Oct 12, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions

Cincy

Has at least scheduled Fresno and Oregon St, both of whom were expected to range somewhere between average and really good. Texas has played: UL-Monroe, Wyoming, UTEP, Colorado, and Texas Tech.

That’s an unconscionable OOC schedule for a national title contender. And the Big 12 being down really hurts, as you can make a case that the Big East is about as strong as the Big 12 this year. Cincy’s schedule, right now, is better than Texas’. Texas will eventually play Kansas and Mizzou, so there is an opportunity to climb. But I refuse to give a team with that terrible of an OOC any leeway. There is a world of difference between Oregon St and Fresno vs. ULM, Wyoming, and UTEP.

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by Poseur on Oct 12, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions

Stanford is too high

Two losses already, and they’ve played the easy part of their PAC 10 schedule. beating San Jose State and Wazzu isn’t that impressive, and they were shellshocked by Oregon State in the first half this week.

The Cardinal deserve to be in the top 25 if they beat the 2 Arizona teams the next two weeks, but not until then.

by 4.0 Point Stance on Oct 12, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions

Man, that was an oversight

I had completely missed the Oregon St game. Now I have to think of a 25th team to rank. Pitt? BYU? Utah? OU? Okie St? Arkansas?

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by Poseur on Oct 12, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions

I live in Utah

So I may be a little biased. BYU has looked really good every game except for Florida State. Utah, on the other hand, hasn’t really looked impressive in any win, but they ARE winning, and their only loss was a close one on the road to a now red-hot Oregon team. I don’t know what Pitt’s doing, I wouldn’t rank Okie State till they prove for a little longer that they aren’t the team that lost to UTEP. Arkansas doesn’t have a great record, but they are probably a top 25 caliber team, same goes with OU. I guess what I’m saying is I would probably go with Utah, or MAYBE BYU.

by Ianoka on Oct 12, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions

I could

agree with OU/PITT/BYU to replace Stanford.

by Mikeno on Oct 12, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions

OU/PITT/~~BYU~~Utah

by Mikeno on Oct 12, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't know

if you could put OU over BYU, but whatever.

by Ianoka on Oct 12, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions

I would have agreed with you

except for the way BYU got ran off of their home field by FSU.

by Mikeno on Oct 12, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions

I would not put Alabama over Florida

Snead played one of the worst game I have seen a QB play. I was looking forward to see how bad his ATVSQB number looked like. It must have been in the -200’s, and I am not kidding.

by NOPE on Oct 12, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions

I think..

that this may be your worst poll (of course imo) to date Poseur. I usually agree with everything.

Iowa is overrated. They have played two FCS teams, and both games have been to the wire!

Texas, even though they haven’t played anyone that would push them, they have punished teams as expected. I would place them at 3.

VT.

And has anyone noticed the way VT is killing teams all of a sudden?

VT 34 Duke 26.

Penn State is too low. If it reasons that Iowa should be 5 then Penn State should be 10-15. Seeing as that is the only team they have lost to. Also both of their schedules have been cakewalks to date. If one is penalized it should hold same for the other.

Notre Dame. Was it actually necessary to rank them? If they beat USC then I can agree to a ranking on them.

Also Alabama has looked awesome, but not to a degree where I can see them taking over the top spot from Florida. Common opponent BAMA (38-20) UF (41-7). There will be another common opponent coming up to give us more information.

by Mikeno on Oct 12, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions

beg to differ

I’d drop Texas even further, they aren’t impressing me at all right now while Iowa continues to beat teams I don’t think they can beat (and almost lose games I think they should win. Sounds kinda like us through 5 games, and we were #4 in the country) Usually when a team does that they disappoint in the end but why penalize Iowa now for projected future failures?

As for VT, Duke just won a game (OMG!) so that bumps VT up a bit. Ok not really but you get the idea. VT looks good, they lost to a good Bama team, and they’re certainly in my top 5.

I definitely agree with Poseur that Bama looks better than Florida but I can’t put my finger on why. That’s all for now.

by ORtigerfan on Oct 12, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions

?

Even further than 6? Who would you then put there? If you drop them past “The U” you might as well drop them past “tOSU.”

I’m sorry I can’t get past Iowa nearly losing to 2 FCS teams. LSU at least put away the team that most compares to an FCS program (ULL). I can’t overlook 24-21 and 17-16.

Yeah VT is in my Fav 5 too, just not 3. I just thought “killing” and “teamS” was a bit out of touch. Dismantling ‘The U’ deserves notice, BC… not so much.

Bama looks better than Florida but I can’t put my finger on why.

Because that is what the media is telling you. The only thing that makes a case for Bama is that they beat VT on a neutral field. Both teams imo are similar, they both have unassailable defenses that more than make up for their offensive shortcomings, and a ground game that they can call on if they start stalling on offense. Only one team has a Heisman trophy winner and 2 time NC at QB though. I give Florida the benefit of the doubt until/if they both meet this season.

by Mikeno on Oct 12, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions

It has just come to my attention that

Arkansas State plays in the Sun Belt. So I should hedge some of my criticism towards Iowa, SOME. lol.

by Mikeno on Oct 13, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Just to respond...

I look at the teams top accomplishments. I frankly don’t care that much if a team struggled with Random Directional School if they then beat Rival U. A win is a win in most cases. You only get downgraded if the win over Random Directional School is your best win (SEE Penn St).

VT – blew out BC and Miami. Beat Duke fairly comfortably, but didn’t put them away. Yeah, no reason to downgrade them. They came to play when it mattered.

Iowa – struggled against two lousy teams but still won. Promptly beat Penn St and Michigan, two of the best teams in their conference.

Penn St – best win after Illinois, which isn’t that great of a win is… um… Temple? Syracuse? If you play a horrid schedule, you better win.

Bama – I’ve had them ahead of UF pretty much all year. I’m not convinced that their blowout win wasn’t by as big of a margin as Florida’s blowout win over the same team. Both were blowouts.

Notre Dame – I’d love not to rank them, but they keep winning.

Texas – have you watched their games? They really aren’t punishing teams. They struggle for a bit and then eventually put the Weak Sisters of the Poor away.

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by Poseur on Oct 13, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah..

upon further review, I can agree with most of this. I still think Iowa is ranked too high, but not so high as I did before. I can understand you basing in more on who have you beaten instead of other criteria.

by Mikeno on Oct 13, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions

I wouldn't put Oregon in the top 10.

Or Boise State.

And Va Tech is overranked as well, but at least deserving of being in the top ten.

Right on with OU. I hate that they are being given the benefit of the doubt b/c their QB was hurt.

by Displaced Tiger on Oct 12, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions

LOL! Alabama # 1?

Not sure what kind of drugs you are on, but believe me, Alabama is not number 1 nor will they be this year. Florida will walk over everyone they play. The way Florida handled LSU on Saturday night showed me Florida is for real once again this year, with or without Tebow. As far as Alabama goes, if LSU does not win another game this year which they will ofcourse, we will most suredly take down Alabama. That’s one game LSU will make it a point to win just for the fact that LSU will never like Nick Saban.

by dsrimages on Oct 13, 2009 10:39 PM CDT reply actions

It looks good....

For the most part, I’d say drop Iowa out of the top 10 for now and move VT back to maybe 8th for now, Bama and Fla is a toss up at this point, In reality it makes no difference since they both will meet if they both keep winning, And with all do respect, the win for UF over LSU isn’t that impressive considering LSU has had a lot of ugly games not to mention what should have been a loss to a bad Miss. State team, That also goes for the Bama and Ole Miss game, imo Ole Miss was maybe the most overrated team in the top 25, I also think we should have beat them worse than we did, we had the chance but the offense struggled for the most part, But all in all I would still say LSU is the 3rd best team in the SEC right now, Aub looks good on offense but has no pulse on the defensive side of the things, Then again they have yet to play a good defense so their offense may be worse than we think, Good job on the polls overall.

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