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LSU vs. Georgia: A Light-Heavyweight Bout Between Two Teams Hoping to Go Up in Weight Class

I didn't feel inspired to write anything yesterday, and today is not so easy either.  Part of me says, "Let's just watch the game and forget about analyzing it to death before the fact."  These are two teams who are not poised for glory, at least not yet, but they can see it from where they stand.  They can see the obstacles in their way as well.

Georgia's obstacles are a suspect defense and a decided lack of ball control.  Joe Cox, who has been productive as a quarterback with 9 touchdown passes, leads the SEC with 5 interceptions.  They have also lost 7 fumbles, to give them 12 turnovers in 4 games, the most in the SEC.  Meanwhile, they aren't generating turnovers, giving them a turnover margin of -9 on the season, again worst in the SEC.  Their defense is giving up an average of 243 yards per game in the air, though that average is inflated by having given up 408 yards to Arkansas.  They held Oklahoma State and Arizona State to reasonable passing yards against.

LSU's obstacles are an offense that isn't firing on all cylinders because the blocking is not there, and an inability to get sacks on the quarterback.  We are last in the league in total offense, though we are mid-pack where it really counts in scoring offense.  We are last in the league in sacks.  Rahim Alem, who has been surprisingly good in my opinion on containing the run, has not been getting to the quarterback the way he should, and we aren't getting enough pressure from the middle.  We aren't giving the quarterback all day to throw, but we aren't getting him to the ground enough either.

Yes, both of these teams have weaknesses that, if not corrected, will prevent them from being there at the end of the season.  If we don't figure out how to improve our offensive line play, and if Georgia does not figure out how to play more consistently on defense and cut down the turnovers on offense, neither one of these teams will be there when the SEC Championship Game combatants are announced.

But let me be clear.  Neither of these teams are bad.  Both sit at 2-0 in the conference, and while Georgia needed last-second heroics from Rennie Curran to escape against South Carolina, they got the heroics they needed.  While LSU needed last-second heroics from Chad Jones and Ryan Baker to escape against Mississippi State, they got the heroics.  They both escaped what would have been very damaging losses and lived to fight another day.  Tomorrow is that "other day".

For now, these two flawed teams, neither of whom are in the weight class of the best in the conference (yet), will be playing each other.  It is an interesting proving ground for both teams.  Two flawed teams, one of whom will stay undefeated in the conference and the other of whom will finally be "exposed" as a pretender.  

I choose "exposed" deliberately, and put it in quotes deliberately as well.  This is what media members will say after the game, but it is not a completely appropriate description.  Both of these teams have been exposed already.  Washington and Mississippi State revealed major weaknesses in LSU.  South Carolina and Arkansas exposed Georgia.  Mediocre play by one team or the other, or both, would not be a big surprise at this point.  

Because this is an interdivisional game, it is not a must-win game for either team standings-wise.  Both teams will control their own destinies in the divisions they represent regardless of whether they win or lose.  However, I think this is an important game for both of these teams beyond its impact in the standings.  Both of these teams are beleaguered by fans and media pressing on them, trying to explain or understand why they are not as good as they should be.  I believe that whoever loses this game will be damaged by it psychologically and it could lead to a spiraling season.

In parallel, both of these coaches have come under fire.  Mark Richt for always coming close to national championship level but not ever quite bringing his team there, and for starting the season slowly this year.  Les Miles for a poor 2008 and an anxiety-producing start to the 2009 season.  Les Miles, I think, can silence the critics for a while with a win here.  I am not so sure Mark Richt can.  This is a cross-roads game not only for the teams involved, but for the coaches.  They are on somewhat parallel trajectories right now, but one of them is going to break off.

The more I think about this game, the less like a big college football game it feels.  It feels more like a fight for survival.  Like a loser's bracket game in a double-elimination tournament between two teams that both believe they should be in the winner's bracket.  One of these teams gets to continue on and the other is going home.  Not literally of course, because the season continues for both teams, with plenty goals still to reach, but I can't shake the feeling that this game marks the end of something.  If LSU wins, it marks the end of Georgia as a serious contender in the East, perhaps for more than just this year.  If Georgia wins, it may do the same to LSU.

So yeah, those are your happy thoughts for Friday morning.

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The fight for survival

I think of this more as a 2 week test. LSU needs to come out of it with 1 loss at the most. If they lose to Georgia, then come back to beat Florida, all goals remain on the table. Of course we want to win both games but I’m not going to think of tomorrow as a do or die game.

by no brainer on Oct 2, 2009 7:38 AM CDT reply actions  

One thing that might need to be mentioned here

For whatever reason, a team’s turnover ratio seem to be a pretty consistent stat over a season. Its rare that a team that with a bad turnover ratio rights the ship mid season. LSU knows about that from last season. I think there is a much better chance that the LSU offense finally gets on track in this game. Plus as another poster mentioned during the week, Les seems to thrive in situations where the national media tries to write him and his team off. Either way its easily the most interesting LSU game of the season. I do not think a loss at Georgia will destroy the season, but it would make next week game a must win to stay in competition in the SEC West. A win at Georgia would allow LSU take some of the pressure to win next weeks game off.

by NOPE on Oct 2, 2009 8:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Sorry about the atrocious grammar in that last post

Apparently the coffee is not working this morning.

by NOPE on Oct 2, 2009 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

This is a bogus statement now that I think about it
If LSU wins, it marks the end of Georgia as a serious contender in the East, perhaps for more than just this year. If Georgia wins, it may do the same to LSU.

If Georgia loses, they can still beat UT and Florida and win the East.

If LSU loses, they can still beat UF, UA, and Ole Miss and probably win the West.

I think people need to just relax and resist making such a grandioses statements about what is riding on the outcome of this game. What will happen is the fanbase of the team that loses this game will completely sh*t the bed and try to ruin the rest of the season for their own team by making assinine comments on radio programs and message boards. But odds are the winning team’s fans will continue acting like spoiled babies also. So you see, upon second look there is actually very little riding on this game at all.

by NOPE on Oct 2, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Both teams control own destiny whatever happens this game.

I acknowledge that. The thing is, if Georgia loses this game they probably won’t beat Florida and Auburn to win the East. If LSU loses this game, we probably won’t beat Alabama and Florida. Sure, we might, but I think both of these teams are kind of fragile right now.

If the loser can come back and challenge for their division, that will be a great job of coaching by whoever does it.

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by Richard Pittman on Oct 2, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

It might be tough for LSU to come back from a loss at Ga

Because they still play Florida, Auburn, Ole Miss, Alabama, and Arkansas.

All Georgia has left is UT, Auburn, and Florida. They will be far from out of their race for the SEC East if they lose. UGA was embarrassed by UA last season in their early SEC showdown and managed to turn it into a decent season.

I really hope LSU does not let the outcome of this Georgia game affect the rest of their season. The SEC season has not really started yet for pete’s sake. Does not say alot for the resolve of a team if they mail in the rest of the season because they lost a big game early.

If LSU can get through the next two games with 1 win and 1 loss, it will be good. 2-0 would be phenominal. 0-2 would be pretty bad, but it would not be a reason to give up on the rest of the season.

by NOPE on Oct 2, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa, step back from the ledge
If LSU wins, it marks the end of Georgia as a serious contender in the East, perhaps for more than just this year. If Georgia wins, it may do the same to LSU.

As mentioned by NOPE above, that is a pretty bold statement. Perhaps for more than just this year? I guess we shouldn’t bother playing the games then? Let’s just give the divisions to Florida and Alabama rather than make them earn it? That is hyperbole if I’ve ever heard it, my friend. If either team loses this week it doesn’t spell doom in their divisions because it’s an inter-division game. Just like if Florida loses next week, someone in the East still has to beat them.

I just see proclamations like that and wonder what the thought process is. Any week any team can beat a team in this conference. In 2006 Georgia had lost 4 of 5 and was limping into a noon game at 5th ranked Auburn team with legitimate national title hopes which was supposed to be a gimme for them. Georgia ended up thumping them 37-15 and went on a run to beat three top15 opponents to end the season. College football moreso than any other sport is wildly inconsistent from game to game because of the emotional swings of 18-22 year old young men. If you saw Alabama in the 1st half against Georgia last year, you’d think they were the greatest football team ever, but if you saw them in the Sugar Bowl you’d wonder what business they had being there.

A loss for either of these teams doesn’t end the season. What it does though is makes the rest of the season more difficult to achieve your pre-season goals, as does any loss. I also take a little offense to this statement:

Les Miles, I think, can silence the critics for a while with a win here. I am not so sure Mark Richt can.

Fact: Georgia has not defeated a top 5 team in Sanford Stadium since 1984. Methinks the locals will be pretty ecstatic if that happens. Granted, there have been only three visits of top 5 teams since that win. The critics you refer to for Mark Richt are on the fringe anyways. Come over to T. Kyle’s site or Blutarsky’s site and you’ll notice that the people that have Mark Richt on the proverbial “hot-seat” are few and far between.

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by AuditDawg on Oct 2, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm expecting the LSU offense to finally start functioning properly...

any. minute. now.

(please?)

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by Gregatron on Oct 2, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

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