LSU 24 - Louisiana Tech 16: Snap Judgments
Escape. Sweet, sweet, escape. What an absolute dud of a football game. here are teh snap judgments:
- The team as a whole was flat. The defense would play well for a couple of plays at a time, but could never sustain it. They'd lose focus for a play and give up 10 or 15 yards on a screen or a misdirection. Other plays, we would dominate their line and make a tackle for a loss or no gain. It was quite frustrating how we would beat them badly two plays in a row only to see them get a first down to keep a drive going on the third. Hat tip to uberschuck in the comment thread for pointing that out.
- Derek Dooley brought a good game plan to Baton Rouge. He didn't have much in the way of players, as much of his lineup was out due to injury, but he made the most of what he had, getting his little backs out into space and taking advantage of our aggressiveness with draws, misdirection, screens, etc.
- Defensively, Louisiana Tech just let us beat ourselves. Jarrett Lee got the start and did not play well. He was 7 of 22 for 104 yards and a touchdown. There were no interceptions, but Louisiana Tech was close on about 3. This Lee was not the same as the Jarrett Lee of last year. The 2008 version of Jarrett Lee struggled with interceptions, but also made plays. He tried hard to get the ball to the receivers and ran into trouble when he'd try too hard or would lock in too much. This version of Jarrett Lee seemed scared to put the ball anywhere near a defender and shied away from taking hits. It wasn't the same quarterback, and it wasn't a quarterback showing growth. It was a quarterback who, much like our entire offense earlier in the season, seemed so scared of making a catastrophic error that he wouldn't try to make a play. He wouldn't try to squeeze a ball through a hole to a receiver. He wouldn't try to wait for a play. While we've complained about Jefferson not throwing the ball away, Lee would give up on a play too quickly. It was frustrating and painful to watch.
- While Gary Crowton was busy trying to get an ineffective Jarrett Lee into the game, he was overlooking Keiland Williams, who finished the game with 116 yards on 15 carries, and he scored both of our touchdowns on short runs. He had a great game, and needed to get probaby 6 or 7 more touches than he got.
- At one point, with LSU holding onto a lead, Crowton called 6 consecutive passing plays, resulting in two consecutive 3-and-out possessions.
- This was probably as good of a game as our defensive line has played this season. They made play after play, both in the passing game and in the running game. A large percentage of La Tech plays went for 0 or negative yards. And a large percentage went for big yardage. C'est la vie.
- Brandon Lafell continues to be a great player.
- This is a team that really needs Jordan Jefferson back. I am surprised to find myself saying that, as I was seriously wondering earlier this year if we wouldn't be better off with Lee under center.
- Russell Shepard continues to look like a star in the making.
- We did not get an interception (there were no turnovers in the game for either team as a matter of fact), ending our streak of games with an interception, going back to last season.
- La Tech's running backs were similar to what we're going to see with Dexter McCluster next week. We will have to figure out how to catch and tackle a small, shifty back.
- Let's not forget, the game was a win. Our 8th of the season, in fact, beating our regular season total for last year, with two more winnable games remaining. Now we just have to win them.
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Stats lie
Take a look at the box score. The stats say we had no business winning the game.
Poseur should have fun with his stats feature this week.
A win is a win. I don’t feel great, but I’ll take it. Since this wasn’t a feel-good win, I’ll take a little Schadenfreude from the 55-21.
by uberschuck on Nov 14, 2009 10:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
At least the Troy game last year was somewhat entertaining. My thoughts:
Keiland Williams played great. I think the only reason he hasn’t been on the field much in previous years is because he would go down far too easily to the first guy. Tonight he kept driving his legs, and I think he’s earned the starting job, at least for a week.
I hope all of the people who were calling for Jarrett Lee earlier in the year can shut up now. I even heard people suggesting things like having him come in for the last 2 minutes of the half or in “pass only” situations. I don’t know how we get from last year to the middle of this year and all of a sudden we think Lee’s a good pure passer. He’s not. He’s not athletic enough to do anything besides throw the ball, so if he’s unsuccessful, it’s because he isn’t a good passer. Richard you keep making the point that this isn’t the same Lee from last year, but I don’t know about that. You’re kind of glossing over the bad and exaggerating the good. He’s not Brett Favre. He didn’t put up big numbers besides his interceptions. He’s not throwing either throwing a touchdown or a pick every play. He moved the ball very well for a few drives per game, at best, such as the part of Florida last year, 2nd half of Troy, etc. Hopefully this isn’t really him, and I don’t think so. I hope his inaccuracy was due to lack of timing and reps more than anything else, but I don’t know.
Oh yeah, one more thing about Lee. That intentional grounding? Where everyone was blocked, and he was sitting in a clean pocket? Never seen anything like it, and I hope I never see it again from any LSU quarterback.
D line played great obviously.
We HAVE to improve our tackling before we go against McCluster, he was a beast today.
As far as a comment regarding Brandon Taylor, he really hasn’t done much all year, good or bad (with the exception of 2 very bad plays against Bama). Why is it that we always have one really good safety (Landry, Steltz, Jones) but the other one is always just a placeholder (Daniels, Curtis Taylor, Brandon Taylor)?
Peterson didn’t play all that great either. He got beat slightly several times, although I don’t think they ever made us pay for it. Of course, not that great for Peterson means a normal game for most corners.
Last thing about Lee-hanging Toliver out to dry. That was unbelievable. Get the freaking ball there, don’t let it hang in the air. If I was Toliver I would be beyond pissed at Lee when they watch film. Along those lines, what was wrong with him? It obviously wasn’t anything relating to paralysis, and I would’ve thought a concussion would keep him out for the rest of the game, and it did look like he got knocked out. Oh well.
Someone needs to beat Alabama or Florida before the SEC Championship so we can get to the BCS. I’m starting to think that Florida is going to have trouble beating Alabama.
by Ianoka on Nov 14, 2009 10:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The thing is, he's a different kind of bad from last year
Last year he just made mistakes at critical times, but if you cut out the mistakes, he did some really good things. Last night, it was just plain old ineffectiveness. He just couldn’t hit the receiver. That’s not the Lee we saw last year.
Father. Husband. Lawyer. Nerd.
by Richard Pittman on Nov 15, 2009 6:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He made at least one very good play.
I don’t remember who he hit, but one play, you could see him look at three different receivers and then threw a very good pass to the one cutting across the middle. It didn’t go for a lot of yards, but it was solid.
by Gman6809 on Nov 15, 2009 7:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is, he's a different kind of bad from last year
Last year he just made mistakes at critical times, but if you cut out the mistakes, he did some really good things. Last night, it was just plain old ineffectiveness. He just couldn’t hit the receiver. That’s not the Lee we saw last year.
Father. Husband. Lawyer. Nerd.
by Richard Pittman on Nov 15, 2009 6:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See, I still disagree with you there
You’re thinking of Georgia Lee, and Second Half Florida Lee. You’re forgetting about Alabama Lee, First Half Troy Lee, Ole MIss Lee, and First Half Auburn Lee. The most glaring example would be last year’s Alabama game, where he had something like 4 completions and 4 picks, 1 for a TD, one returned inside the 10, and one in overtime. And the 4 completions were out of like 25 or so attempts. I just hope he can figure out how to stay in Second Half Florida mode, because he looked REALLY good for a little bit in that game.
by Ianoka on Nov 16, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
1) KW looked, for the first time in a long time, like the KW of 2 years ago. Up until last night, he has seemed very skittinsh about delivering and receiving hits. I couldn’t understand it coming from a guy of his obvious physicality who also had the ability to make people miss if he needed it. Last night, we saw the punishing runner we knew he could be/had been. I was all for seeing Ridley play some more and am excited about his future, but I have to say KW earned it last night.
2) Thank God we’ve now put a rest to “let Lee play” nonsense. I question whether “Uniread” – as I like to call him – belongs in D-1 ball at all. This kid came into major CFB with the “handicap” of having gotten away with alot of stuff in high school (even Texas HS ball) solely on the strength and RELATIVE accuracy of his arm that you simply can’t get away with in D-1 ball. In HS, he was able to get away with making one read, staring down the receiver, and forcing the throw into double and triple coverage. His mechanics last year were horrible. What surprises me is that, while his mechanics are better than last year (he doesn’t make every throw off his back foot), he still doesn’t seem to make more than one read and still stares the receiver down. I would have thought that, after last year, he would have learned something. I can chalk some of what happened last night to rustiness, but the rest is just old school Uniread. I’m sure he’s a good kid, and might be able to play at Tulane, ULL, etc., but without further improvement in the decision making process (and he may not be capable of that; some people just aren’t), he doesn’t belong at this level.
I’ll say this: I would rather see what I saw last night – in a game where he didn’t have to be a hero – than what I saw last year. I have no doubt that the coaches told him to throw the ball away, and even at that, there were a few times he reverted to the old Uniread: trying to force the ball into double coverage, staring down receivers and throwing the ball where it was catchable but left the WR exposed. I remember thinking last year that, if I was Dickson or LaFell, I would have wanted to beat Uniread’s a*@ for some of the throws over the middle that required them to expose themselves to serious injury.
I don’t think he’s a different Uniread, just the same one with the unfortunate added layer of doubt about whether he can play at this level. That is a crushing combination. Based on what we saw of Miles’ interaction with him on the sideline last night, my hat’s off to Les. He seemed to know what he had out there playing QB, and when the kid would come to the sidelines after another dismal series, Les appeared to be spending his time and energy very paternalistically trying to keep the kid’s self-confidence from plummeting so low that he couldn’t finish the game.
by Deluded on Nov 15, 2009 7:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent observations.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
by SouthernMan on Nov 15, 2009 7:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered why we were throwing so much...
I wonder if the coaches are more worried about JJ’s injury than we might know. It seemed to me that they were trying to get Lee repetitions in case we need him the next two games.
by Zandor435 on Nov 15, 2009 9:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That gameplan was so bad
It looked like Lou Tepper was calling the plays instead of Gary Crowton.
by Billy Gomila on Nov 14, 2009 11:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes personnel (Lee) doesn't allow you to work a game as planned!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
by SouthernMan on Nov 15, 2009 7:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Crowton called 6 consecutive passing plays, resulting in two consecutive 3-and-out possessions.
I fired Crowten after that. Rediculous. We get the ball on the Tech 36 and run 3 suck a$$ pass plays and punt. We were ahead by 4 and the running game was working. Lee was ineffective. The game was very much in question and Crowten sqandered an opportunity for easy points. They came back the next series with the same crap. EVERY man woman and child where I sat was calling for his head. What is the name of the OC at Boise St?
by Gman6809 on Nov 15, 2009 7:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
A good number of us started chanting "Russell Shepard" at one point
I can’t fully blame play calling in this instance.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
by Ace Venom on Nov 15, 2009 9:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Crowton
I think one of those 1st downs we were I formation with the TE and both RBs staying back to block leaving Lee with only 2 receivers running routes. I he either took a sack or a grounding penalty there.
WE WERE IN MAX PROTECT ON FIRST DOWN. WTF.
KW played awesome but only to have Crowton take the ball out of his hands on the 2 drives above plus another drive where Ridley got all 3 carries.
by amiznit on Nov 15, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jarrett Lee is just not a very good quarterback
But the playcalling was absolutely worse. Tech’s offense was better designed, so much so that it was almost farcical.
Keiland Williams was running his tail off and Crowton gave him the ball 15 times.
by Billy Gomila on Nov 15, 2009 9:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it again
the Lee experiment is over he’s just not cut out for this level of football. Hes a great kid thats a fighter but he should go to 1-AA and shine. It’s time for Shep and Garrett to take over the 2 and 3 in the depth chart.
Ohh, don’t get me wrong the OC didn’t help his cause either nor did our porous D. Our team is jekyll and Hyde this year but we find ways to win the game we are suppose to win and that’s all I can ask for, bring on Ole Piss.
"It is What It Is"
by GeauxDee on Nov 15, 2009 10:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lee is shell shocked
He’s got SOME ability, but mentally he’s fried. Part of it is the fans have completely turned on him, part of it is past failures… It all adds up to a quarterback with a broken spirit and zero confidence. It’s sad to see but I just can’t see him bouncing back. Like I said he’s got good arm strength and it’s not like he’s incapable of playing well, but at this point he has no spirit. Without confidence I just don’t see things ever working out with Lee, he’s just too far gone. It’s sad, but if Jefferson can’t make it back we need to consider other options.
by saints-nation on Nov 15, 2009 11:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
eerily similar to.....
Jonathan Crompton. Remember how bad he was last year? How the Vol faithful turned on a kid with decent ability and crushed him? He was absolutely awful. When he started this year poorly everyone laughed at the Vols and said Lane Kiffin would be on the hot seat by week 6 if he kept playing Crompton. Well, he kept playing him, they game planned around his skills, and now he’s actually doing very well. I believe I read last week that he has the most passing TDs of any QB in the conference.
My point is, if someone with a dismal a past as Jonathan Crompton can be nurtured back into being a fairly good quarterback by a coach whose only two abilities include interviewing well and pissing off other fanbases, then I have absolute confidence that Jarrett Lee can become a good QB in this league if we can learn how to use him. With our excellent receiving corps, JL (and JJ for that matter) should have a stat sheet that pops. A new offensive strategy can make it happen, I think. That doesn’t have to mean a new OC, just a new mindset.
by ORtigerfan on Nov 15, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
food for thought
I think those are valid points. Crompton really was terrible. However, I hate to rely on the chances of us doing a “crompton” style turnaround at LSU. I just hope JJ continues to impress and improve.
by Zandor435 on Nov 16, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember all of the players...
who just “weren’t SEC quality” on defense last year. What happened when they got decent position coaching? Let’s face it, we don’t know what we have at QB (or WR) because they show no signs of being coached, just like our DB’s and LB’s last year. I’d hate to see Chris Garrett go through the same BS the last two have had to endure. We can’t depend on an offensive system year to year that requires a near NFL quality QB and receiving corps. Either get GC the coaching help he needs, which would require getting rid of somebody else, or cut bait with him.
I still doubt that Miles will do it unless we lose two more games. That is the real dilemma.
by pttigris on Nov 16, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
eerily similar to.....
Jonathan Crompton. Remember how bad he was last year? How the Vol faithful turned on a kid with decent ability and crushed him? He was absolutely awful. When he started this year poorly everyone laughed at the Vols and said Lane Kiffin would be on the hot seat by week 6 if he kept playing Crompton. Well, he kept playing him, they game planned around his skills, and now he’s actually doing very well. I believe I read last week that he has the most passing TDs of any QB in the conference.
My point is, if someone with a dismal a past as Jonathan Crompton can be nurtured back into being a fairly good quarterback by a coach whose only two abilities include interviewing well and pissing off other fanbases, then I have absolute confidence that Jarrett Lee can become a good QB in this league if we can learn how to use him. With our excellent receiving corps, JL (and JJ for that matter) should have a stat sheet that pops. A new offensive strategy can make it happen, I think. That doesn’t have to mean a new OC, just a new mindset.
by ORtigerfan on Nov 15, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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