Let's Move On
by Jrlz on Nov 23, 2009 2:24 PM CST
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I happened to notice, in Poseur's column, that the clock management during the last thirty seconds was "unforgivable".
Bad? Yes, it was bad. Inexcusable? I'd say it was. Unforgivable? Absolutely not.
This is sports. It's not as important as your life. Harboring a resentment towards what happened Saturday night will only make you miserable, and it won't change a damn thing. The score in the record books will always be 25-23.
If you are not satisfied with the coaching staff, you can express your feelings by contacting the LSU Athletic Department via letter.
Earlier, I posted that "Les has lost me" while drunk. That may be true, but he can win me back by beating Arkansas. In every adversity, there is something to be learned. My hope is that Les Miles, the team and the staff, take what happened as a learning experience. If the Tigers resume winning, and if something like that NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN, I'll be satisfied.
We may not be in control of a Cap One berth, but we can still reach ten wins and we can still set up a good future for our team. The effects of Spikegate will only be as bad as we let them be.
So pick yourselves up, shake off the hangover, put on your favorite LSU hat and shout "GEAUX TIGERS"
Now let's beat Arkansas.
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Agreed.
Now post a basketball preview so that horrible uniform picture will float off the front page.
by janepriceestrada on Nov 23, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
not me
I can’t even watch the highlights or see Les Miles talk anymore. he used to be comical, now I just want to punch him. Surely Crowton will be fired, if so, I can still watch the games, but he is a joke. Always has been, always will be.
by Street Diction on Nov 23, 2009 3:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kudos Jrlz
Good post, good advice.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
by SouthernMan on Nov 23, 2009 3:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Next Month or so
Will say a lot about the future of the program.
by Billy Gomila on Nov 23, 2009 3:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I’m ready to move on and hope Miles rights the ship (by firing Crowton for starters).
by no brainer on Nov 23, 2009 3:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Either things will get better or they won't
But the griping ultimately isn’t really going to do any good.
by Billy Gomila on Nov 23, 2009 3:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You know what?
Yep, you are right on the money sir. Can’t stay pissed off forever, and changes, if they come, wont be till after this week anyways.
Gotta get that stupid freaking boot back from da piggies. “Cochon de lait” Indeed.
by PodKATT on Nov 23, 2009 4:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Living in Dallas...
I’ve had to “defend” Les about five times already today.
I quote defend because I’m not sure what to call it. People no longer wonder if Les is a little slow in the computational department, now it’s a matter of fact sort of “Well you guys can still win because you have good athletes and overcome the idiot in the white cap” discussion.
And it is depressing when you fork over 3.75 million to a man and he gives the type of bumbling response we heard this weekend. Our NC’s look more and more fluky as the result of this too.
Winning does solve everything though. It better start this Saturday.
by TigerPaw on Nov 23, 2009 4:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ditto
if no win Satuday night in Death Valle, 3.7 million ought to be what he use to be making. Big contracts for winning a National Title with someone else’s recruits. But such an phenomenal blunder as Saturday night is worth about a 1 million deduction. And if you add up November losses under Les, he should probably be working for the .7 (point 7). nothing in front.
by KKCAJUN on Nov 24, 2009 12:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody who uses
the ‘Won with someone elses recruits’ argument instantly loses all credibility.
If he won in the first year and then fell off, maybe but even that is a stretch.
The team THREE years later really had almost nothing to do with his predecessor and MANY of the key players were HIS recruits anyway.
Moreover, a lot of the kids that came under Saban (and Miles) would have come to LSU anyway.
I’m sorry but you can feel however you want about Saturday and you can draw whatever conclusions that leads you to but there is no credible way to dismiss that Les Miles IS a National Championship winning coach! (There aren’t that many in that club!)
And finally, what was Saban’s record in 2004 with ‘his recruits’ ? 9-3 (1-3 verses ranked teams) with a disgusting loss in the outback bowl.
What was Miles record with those same players (and a MAJOR disruption – Katrina)? 11-2 (5-2 v ranked teams) and A BLOW OUT win in the Peach Bowl
So really Miles did better with Sabans players than he did!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
by SouthernMan on Nov 24, 2009 2:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I have this same pet peeve. If anyone mentions ‘won with someone else’s recruits,’ it just sounds like they’re repeating something they heard and can’t think for themselves. The whole Saban/Miles comparison thing is tired and absurd
by no brainer on Nov 24, 2009 6:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's tired because it's true
LSU can move on when they finally run him out of town. We’re stuck with him for at least another year.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
by Ace Venom on Nov 24, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we did win something:
Brian Cook awarded us the Tears of Unfathomable Sadness in his This Week in Schadenfreude column.
I laughed at this one:
We need someone young and famous to die real quick to get every fricking tv channel in the free world to quit talking about how stupid our coaching staff is.
See, I’m looking on the bright side already!
CHAD JONES! WOOOO!!!!
by The Bengal on Nov 23, 2009 4:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The advise is good and one hopes that changeSs are a comin’. I just hope the players are not so deflated and frustrated that they’ve given up. The one thing I always enjoy is seeing the tenacity of the Tigers. It broke my heart to see the over-wrought thinking, as well as non-thinking of the coaches, take away their valiant effort. It was as if the coaches gave up. Nah…let’s not kick a field goal….no, I don’t think you should throw it into the end zone for a touchdown. Let’s just call it quits and go home. ISN’T IT ALWAYS THE COACHES THAT ARE CONSTANTLY AFTER THE PLAYERS NOT TO GIVE UP? ISN’T THAT WHAT THEY GET PAID TO DO??
Does Miles GET IT after such a blatant series of mistakes? We’ll see in the next two games. However, it took a whole season for him to finally unload a set of coaches and defensive system that didn’t work. It’s now been almost a whole season and a disaster of a game to see the repeated bad behavior of the offensive coordinator – e.g. a game plan that doesn’t make sense; last minute audibles that cause miscues; and a pattern of play that (in my opinion) doesn’t use the real talents of the players.
And so, that weird call for a touchdown instead of a field goal in the ‘07 Auburn game comes to mind where the same question popped up “What was he thinking?” Two years later he’s still not focused on time management. And if in two years we have the Big Game and he still is not able to foucs on time management, are we still going to hope that just maybe he’ll come around?
So here Les…listen to me….YOU NEED TO FOCUS!!
by ettoi on Nov 23, 2009 5:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My answer to your question
And if in two years we have the Big Game and he still is not able to foucs on time management, are we still going to hope that just maybe he’ll come around?
Next year, yes; in two years, no. For me he doesn’t get a second year if next year he fails to deliver.
by no brainer on Nov 24, 2009 7:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with no brainer!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
by SouthernMan on Nov 24, 2009 7:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like we finally found something we can agree on
Next year, yes; in two years, no. For me he doesn’t get a second year if next year he fails to deliver.
CHAD JONES! WOOOO!!!!
by The Bengal on Nov 24, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does life move on?
Absolutely. Life moves on after you catch your wife cheating on you too, but it doesn’t mean all is forgiven and forgotten. I don’t buy the explanation that Les gave today. Life moves on, but he still has to go.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
by Ace Venom on Nov 23, 2009 5:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ace,
I would not matter if Les Miles suddenly received a halo from Heaven and took on a saintly glow, you would still have the same view. For ever, it seems, you have sang the same song, and I, for one, am tired of it. The name Ace Venom is realistic…you are full of venom.
Jrlz, great post. I have been a Tiger fan since the Dietzel days, and, while I am currently disappointed, by Saturday, I will be standing tall in my colors urging on the Tigers.
by lawildbull on Nov 23, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yessir
Let’s Do This! COCHON DE LAIT! Get that boot back!
by LSUDeathValley on Nov 23, 2009 8:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
I’m as mad as anybody and I’m still trying to come up with a good, coherent thought, but some people seriously need to calm the fuck (I try not to curse on this blog as much as possible but it’s warranted now) down.
Earlier today I read a message board poster basically advocating telling recruits to stay away and that players should refuse to take the field. Basically he was advocating burning the village to save the village. Another called this situation the worst in the country and the worst LSU football has ever been in.
Seriously, people need to calm the fuck down. Things will get better, or they won’t and there will be change. But this is still a good team and a good program.
by Billy Gomila on Nov 23, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Like they said at Dr Saturday blog...
Les Miles has brought two division titles, two BCS bids, four straight bowl victories and a national championship to LSU. Don’t be so quick to throw him under the tiger. If he does something like this again, then yeah, round up the posse and drive him out of town. But be appreciative of him. He is a good coach. People make mistakes. And it wasn’t just the clock that beat LSU. Ole Miss wasn’t a slouch on that field and has 2 TDs called back on questionable penalties. I know it’s hard to want to do anything like Ole Miss but do as we do: even when we suck, which has been more regular than not, we stand strong and support our coach and our team. Hell, look how long we put up with Ed Orgeron. Get it together Tigers and beat the crap out of Arkansas!
DAMN IT TO HELL!!! I WAS going to say something nice about LSU... but my clock ran out.
by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Nov 24, 2009 4:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wisdom from a stinking Johnny Reb (jk)
Thanks Bim Bam.
By the way – Geaux to Hell Ole Miss!
Good win for you guys. congratulations to your squad on a great game.
Sorry if it has seemed like we didn’t pay the propers but we’ve just had a fracture brewing for five years and it OPENED wide on Saturday.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
by SouthernMan on Nov 24, 2009 6:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Peculiar comment, BimBam
from someone having a few laughs at Les’ expense in the last few days. However, I agree with the game assessment. I posed the question to BWE, and will to you too—Had we managed to steal that game, what would the reaction to Nutt have been?
by artiger on Nov 24, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To answer your question
I don’t think our reaction would be as bad as yours because, as I said, we’re Ole Miss… we’re used to it. Now, if Nutt had brought us two division titles, two BCS bids, four straight bowl victories and a national championship – then I’d imagine we’d be just as demanding as LSU has been in wanting the coach’s head chopped off and sitting at the 50-yard line in its own blood. But make no mistake about it.. both Les Miles and Houston Nutt know the game, they are both great coaches.. and they both do stupid shit, quite often.
As for the “few laughs at Les’ expense”, you gotta take ‘em when you can get ’em, ya know? Most realistic Ole Miss fans know how bad we are going to be next year, losing 27 seniors to graduation this year. We’re probably going to be at the bottom just above Vanderbilt, including a loss to LSU and Fresno State. So we’re enjoying this year with a little more intensity. Can’t blame us.
DAMN IT TO HELL!!! I WAS going to say something nice about LSU... but my clock ran out.
by BimBamOleMissByDamn on Nov 24, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do Not Stop Until Sunday
Please keep this dialogue going for five more days!
by T-towner on Nov 24, 2009 10:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Boy, Miles sure showed Saban something...
You LSU fans are SOOOO lucky to have such a stud as your head coach. Why, the colors on the uniforms on December 5 at the Georgia Dome will be Purple and Yellow, and Blue and Orange. I sure wish my team’s coach were as brilliant as yours. Such a quick thinker. Such a brilliant strategist. Such a magnificent and godlike time manager. As a Bama fan, I tip my hat to the great, inimitable Les Miles. I pity the fool who goes up against him.
Just because I'm an occasional to frequent troll, doesn't mean I lack a heart or don't have a point. Rocky Top Talk blog ban: I did it for teh lulz.
by Anarchon on Nov 24, 2009 6:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Your 'class act' coach will
Be at ND next year so enjoy.
Also, be careful at the Aluminum Bowl this week end, I’d hate to see Nick lose three in a row to end the season this year….right befor he leaves for Southbend!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
by SouthernMan on Nov 24, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny.
In all seriousness, what decent coach would want to inherit that kind of train wreck? Even Shula didn’t leave Alabama in as sorry a state as Weis will be leaving Notre Dame. The story of the SEC for the next few years will be Saban vs. Miles, with everyone else lagging behind. They have recruiting, they have solid and deserved reputations for developing even 1 and 2 star recruits into NFL talent, (not that they’ll get many below 4 stars at this point), and they’re revered as living gods by their respective fan bases.
I think Charlie Weis is a good man, and certainly someone I would want to have influencing my son, if I had one. It alarms me beyond words that I’m almost old enough to have one that old, had I started early. I also said and will continue to say the same about Sylvester Croom, but like Croom, he’s just not a head coach. Great guy, excellent mentor, but not good enough for the big time.
Just because I'm an occasional to frequent troll, doesn't mean I lack a heart or don't have a point. Rocky Top Talk blog ban: I did it for teh lulz.
by Anarchon on Nov 24, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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