BREAKING-Alleva Confirms Recruting Investigation
by PodKATT on Nov 30, 2009 9:03 PM CST
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Ruh-Roh
Talk about waiting for one of the most distracting moments in Louisiana football history to drop the bad news. AD Alleva has confirmed an ongoing investigation into recruiting violations by an asst. coach involving a player who has yet to reach the field. And an anonymous source tells Blum at the Advoc it's WR Asst. D.J. McCarthy . Best guess is that it has to do with the DeAngelo Benton-Rueben Randle situation (Edit: As Ianoka pointed out below, Randle has played this year, so it might be Hicks?) More as it develops in the morning.
Alleva confirms investigation of possible violations involving LSU football team - 2TheAdvocate.com
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Well, crap
Fire McCarthy
I’m dead serious. The offense was terrible last year anyway and I don’t even want the stink of an NCAA investigation. Right now, its an internal investigation, let’s keep it in house. Fire him now.
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No
But an official investigation means there is smoke and where there is smoke, there usually is fire. This is the first step of an NCAA investigation. It probably will get nowhere near that, but you virtually insure that by firing the coach responsible and self reporting the secondary violation, which really isn’t that big of a deal.
McCarthy is already not one of my favorite people for how he handled the Randle/Benton situation in the spring, which was, well, scummy as all hell. Throw in the fact our receivers underacheived this season, the guy has earned precisely zero grace from the program. Fire him. I don’t want the taint of inpropriety.
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If
there was any skull-duggery then yes, fire him.
One of the reason’s I love Miles is that he has run a clean program, it needs to stay that way!
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It can't do with Rueben Randle can it?
They said it won’t cause us to forfeit any games because the player in question never played for us, so it for sure can’t be Randle. Hicks maybe? I read that he was also recruited by McCarthy.
If this is true, then I absolutely agree, we need to fire him. It looks like we may be starting completely over on the offensive side, for better (we did in 07) or for worse.
Damn..
But isn’t McCarthy going to follow Porter to Memphis? Well maybe that’s too soon now.
Please no serious violations. BIG BUCKS! NO WAMMIES! STOP!
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I actually thought about that
I had not heard that anywhere but I wondered, if he wasn’t he might be now – if Larry will have him.
I didn’t really make this point in my column and I don’t know but it might be that they have know this for a while, considering they did not give McCarthy a raise with the rest of the O-staff and they are making it public now so they can bring it to a head this week, while the kids are on break before beginning preparation for the Bowl.
Miles MO would be to let him go away quietly but I don’t know if that will suffice unless they can clear him or report that it was just a minor (secondary) violation.
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Well..
If that’s the scenario wouldn’t it support the theory of it not being serious? With them knowing about it well in advance and waiting until now to bring it to a head(?).
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Yes
I actually don’t think it’ll wind up being that serious, nobody is really talking from the ADepartment right now (other than what’s been reported) but the tea leaves just don’t look too bad at this point.
On the other hand, I do find it hard to beleive McCarthy will be here next year and even though it doesn’t seem to have anything to do with him I could see this being the final straw for Crowton.
A complete offensive coaching staff overhaul may be in the works.
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Now he'll end up at Tennessee
Sounds like he fits their profile.
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by The Bengal on Dec 1, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know
I don’t think he even owns a semi-automatic pellet gun…
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by SouthernMan on Dec 1, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fire him, right now
I don’t want a whiff of dirtiness to touch this program. This guy is classless (Randle & benton situation) and the o needs to be re-done anyway. Let’s get on top of this and stay clear of the NCAA. I don’t want to give them an excuse. Even though it doesn’t sound (yet) like the more serious violations (taking wins and taking scholarships), I don’t want them thinking they need to poke their nose into our business.
I'm proud of my damn strong football team. Have a great day!
I posted
a Column on Bleacher Report with a little more info on who he’s recruited, etc…
Check it out if you would like.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/300323-hits-keep-coming-for-lsus-miles-ad-confirms-recruitment-investigation
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This is bad..
but at least the NCAA seems REALLY reluctant to actually punish recruiting violations these days *cough*Reggie Bush*cough*.
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Some thoughts
Alleva doesn’t say the player is a freshman or a WR.
The article implies the player attends LSU.
The article says the player didn’t log game minutes. Randle and Benton have (though Benton’s minutes aren’t at LSU)
I think the smart money is on hicks but that is purely speculation.
by LSU Jonno on Dec 1, 2009 9:12 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Speculation is part of the fun
I think its Hicks as well. It makes the most amount of sense. It would explain why a JUCO signee didn’t play at all.
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Has
Chris Davenport played yet?
He also recruited Bennie Logan, Morris Claiborne, and Michael Ford…
If I’m right about them knowing this was going down I doubt Miles would have dressed Ford last Saturday so hopefully he is out. I really hope it’s not Davenport and I’d like it not to be Hicks but it could be any of these guys…
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Claiborne and C. Rollover played this year, in the TuLame game I think
by LSU Jonno on Dec 1, 2009 10:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Davenport seems unlikely, as does Ford
both of those guys were ALL LSU during their recruiting. JUCO makes more sense. It especially makes more sense in light of the somewhat fishy “knee injury” and the rumors early in the year that he would likely not be back on the roster in 2010.
With rumors of a rift between Miles and Crowton, and Porter leaving, and McCarthy long rumored to be leaving (I guess this is what those rumors were about), it’s looking more and more like a house-cleaning of offensive coaches. Only Stud and Yanowski are not actively rumored or confirmed to be leaving.
Still, I would have liked to have kept Porter.
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by Richard Pittman on Dec 1, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Makes sense
I think the overhauls is underway.
Maybe Miles will be calling the plays in the CapOne. (Hope we have enough running backs!)
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Agreed.
He predates all of those knuckleheads anyway.
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I'm holding out hope for a complete turnover of the O staff
Studrawa’s O-line was a major disappointment this year and as you pointed out in another post, it’s not for a lack of scholarship players to evaluate. I would love to see Miles get Stacy Searels back here as O-line coach.
As for Yanowsky, I still can’t figure out why we hired him. He did do a good job developing Peterson as a tight end this year, but I like your idea of having a dedicated QB coach and letting the O-Line or WR coach also coach tight ends.
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might not have to hope
OC’s usually bring or pick the staff they want. I doubt any new OC will want to keep studrawa. Also, given the current situation in UGA, might be a good time to get Searles back
Realistically
We should have pretty good position for any offensive staff we want that is available. I don’t know of anyone else at our level that’s looking to revamp their offensive staff this year. (I don’t count ND at our level and Kelly would most likely bring most of his staff anyway.)
Georgia and Florida State will the prime players chasing defensive staff.
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Crazy thought
OK – totally crazy tought but what about Charlie Weis for OC? (I don’t think he is a good head coach but I like him with QBs and calling plays)
Never happen but would that be stupid?
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Bad SouthernMan, bad.
Go sit in the corner now. :)
by janepriceestrada on Dec 1, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Terrble.. just terrble idea.
Weis belongs in the pros. He was already complaining about the traveling (to recruit) and the effects it was having on his family and his ravaged knees.
We need a young upstart. Someone like Josh Heupel, QBs Coach for Oklahoma(-eaux) the past 4 seasons.
What's up Ryan? ARGHHHHHH!!! oops. ~ Patrick Chewing
Actually, there's room for an OC who stays home..
In fact, if an OC is also going to be the QB coach, having him also travel the country to recruit is probably too much responsibility on one person. You can have your OC/QB coach do very little recruiting. Crowton does very little, for example. His geographical responsibility is actually the BR metro area, and he also is at least partially responsible for recruiting QBs. Neither of those are very odious responsibilities.
Still, Weis is a better NFL coach than college coach. He had a hard time modulating his offense to make it appropriately simple enough for the college game, and as a result, all his really highly touted freshmen and sophomores had a very hard time running it. I could do without another “let’s make things really sophisticated and complicated” offensive coordinator. Had my fill of that already.
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by Richard Pittman on Dec 1, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
good points
I wasn’t really serious but I don’t think he is an NFL head coach either. He needs to be an OC and probably the NFL is where that is going to happen.
As far as the complications, again I agree but I think he has the ability to work/communicate with his QBs a lot better and they can get it. I know Quinn was upper-class but he picked it up immediately and he has done a pretty good job with Clausen.
Honestly, nobody has yelled at me for over 24 hours so I just thought I start something! :-)
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You..
haven’t claimed we are all Miles hater’s, and that we are undeserving of his leadership, and if it weren’t for him we would mire in mediocrity in 24 hours either. {^_^}
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Was Weis' offense really that complicated?
Golden Tate and Floyd picked it up and had outstanding freshman seasons, and Clausen has developed very well. I think Weis could be a very good offensive coordinator, but I would like to see us go more to a spread offense.
That makes him 6th highest paid asst coach in the country
Chavis is #9.
Monte, Muschamp, Orgeron and Jimbo are 1, 2, 3, 4, respectively.
BTW, Norm Chow only makes $300k with $40k bonus at UCLA (hint, hint).
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I don't know about Norm Chow
He did good at USC, and then has done nothing at Tennessee or UCLA. Like I said above, I think we should go the spread direction. I bet we could find a disciple of Rich Rodriguez or Chip Kelly pretty easily, and probably pretty cheaply. If we went after someone like that it’s also almost a lock that they would be a lot younger, which could help with recruiting.
back to weis
he doesn’t need much of a salary with his bajillion dollar buyout. we could probably pay him in louisiana home cooking
Spread offenses
I wouldn’t mind a spread running attack like Meyer’s or Rodriguez’ but I’m not a fan of the AirRaid type offenses. I think they tend to leave the D on the field too much and they also tend to have less effective red zone offenses as the field gets compressed.
We have mostly personnel that have been recruited for a ball control/pro style offense, that’s why I like OCs like Chow or Bryan Harsin at Boise. I think you can excuse Chow’s UCLA experience because if you think we’ve had quarterback issues, look at the Bruins. They had to play their third string QB last year and their #1 QB this year got his jaw broken in the first game. He is reputedly an asshole, so he may not be a fit personality-wise, but he’s coached three Heisman trophy winning QBs (Detmer, Palmer, Leinart) and been the OC for two national champions (BYU 1984 and USC 2004). From his Wikipedia profile:
In 23 seasons as an offensive coordinator, Chow coached 8 of the top 14 career passing-efficiency leaders, and 13 quarterbacks who rank among the top 30 in NCAA history for single-season passing yardage. His list of pupils include: Steve Young; Philip Rivers; Robbie Bosco; and, Heisman Trophy winners Ty Detmer, Carson Palmer, and Matt Leinart.
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I'm a UCLA fan and I live in Utah
So I know what you mean. It’s just that to me it seems like if you run a pro offense, it either works extremely well, or it sucks. It’s also a lot easier to run different quarterbacks through a spread offense generally. That being said, Chow would be great for our QB’s.
The LSU student newspaper reported that the wide receivers coach paid cash for a juco dlinemen....
its different than bush situation where an agent paid for some family perks….this is a coach on your team…..thats worse than a booster…..this is could be horribly bad if its found to be credible….
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by The Voice of Reason on Dec 4, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply actions
Any insight on the rumor mill Jonno?
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by The Voice of Reason on Dec 4, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply actions
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