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An Irresponsible Post About the Coaching Situation

I am not a journalist.  I have no sources and I do no reporting.  So if you don't like wild ass speculating, just skip on down to the next post.  However, this is just my wild ass guess on what is happening to the coaching staff and who will be running the Tigers offense next season.  It's an amalgamation of internet rumors and complete fabrication, but what the hey?  You've been warned. 

First off, let's review what we absolutely know.  McCarthy and Porter are both out, under entirely different circumstances.  This means the WR and RB coach jobs are officially open, though Wilson has been officially named the new RB coach. 

On more hazy news, two separate news outlets have reported two different guys have been hired as the new WR coach: Billy Gonzales and Tyke Tolbert.  Neither has been officially announced, but the Gonzales story was far better sourced and seems rock solid.  Let's make the assumption that Gonzales is on the staff.

Now, let's try and sort through the rumors.  Footballscoop, a website that is even more unreliable than we are, is reporting that OL coach Greg Studwara is going to join Porter's staff in Memphis as the OC.  Our offensive line was a massive disappointment this season, but I'd hate for that to stain his entire career.  He's been a good coach his entire career, he's entitled to a bad year.  But it makes sense that Porter would take at least one guy he knows with him, so I'm going to believe this story, meaning we have another hole to fill. 

It's no secret that I believe Crowton should be fired.  Nothing personal, but if you're the OC of the 108th ranked scoring offense at a BCS school, you get fired.  That's how it works.  If you run an offense this dysfunctional at any school, you deserve to get canned.  Sorry. 

Now, I have no idea who the new OL coach will be, but I have a hunch we have already hired a new OC.  His name is either Gonzales or Tolbert.  Now, some rumors  have it that the deal with Tolbert has fallen through.  This is certainly possible.  He's a year or two away from an NFL pension, and who wants to leave money on the table?  It's also a lateral move from WR to WR coach, only he's stepping down from the pros to college.  So, if Tolbert is out, I understand.

However, it is also quite possible that Tolbert is still on board.  LSU cannot officially announce it has hired an NFL coach until after the NFL season.  Well, they could, but that would screw over Tolbert and put LSU on shaky ground with the NFL.  Tolbert will be free from his contract in a few weeks and then can announce he has a new job (if he has it).  From LSU's perspective, it cannot wait to get a WR coach or more importantly, a big recruiter which necessitated the Gonzales hire.  Simply put, we couldn't wait.

However, this does not preclude hiring Tolbert AFTER the NFL season ends.  The thing is, that means we have two WR coaches, which means one of them will get the promotion to OC.  Both are fine candidates.  Gonzales was the front runner for the Florida OC job after Mullen left and is probably making a lateral move because of the snub.  Or he's moving to be the OC and it's not a lateral move.  Tolbert is making a lateral move because he's an LSU alum.  Or he's coming to be the OC.  Or he's not coming at all and there really is a dispute over money. 

I think it's that we had to get a recruiter in here now, so we hired Gonzales, but we still want Tolbert.  Given his connection to the school, I think he will take the WR job in a few weeks, albeit with a pay bump, and Gonzales will take over as the OC, because I can't see why he would make a lateral move just out of spite. 

Call it a hunch (well, because otherwise it's just a guess).  But I think Crowton is out, seeing as his whole staff has just been gutted.  I think Tolbert is still in the fold, we're just delaying the hire until after the NFL season.  And I think we've already hired our new OC: Billy Gonzales.  I'm probably wrong, but from reading the tea leaves, I am pretty excited about the staff changes so far.         

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Guys, this is LSU. We should be hiring proven OC’s at the D1 level.

I’m not saying Tyke or Gonzalez won’t turn out to be good OC’s, but I just don’t think we’d take that chance. Especially since Miles’ ass is pretty much on the line next year.

I think it is more likely that the Tyke deal fell through and we got Gonzalez to fill the WR role.

by LSU Jonno on Dec 11, 2009 12:36 PM CST reply actions  

I could..

get behind Gonzales being hired as the OC, or the OC in waiting-for-Crowton-to-FXUP-again.

What's up Ryan? ARGHHHHHH!!! oops. ~ Patrick Chewing

by Mikeno on Dec 11, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Problem ...

with the theory that both Tolbert and Gonzales joining the staff, one replacing Crowton as OC and the other replacing McCarthy as WR coach is that it leaves us without a QB coach.

by amiznit on Dec 11, 2009 1:43 PM CST reply actions  

Most likely the role..

Gonzales would fill. He just wouldn’t be labeled QB coach.

What's up Ryan? ARGHHHHHH!!! oops. ~ Patrick Chewing

by Mikeno on Dec 11, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

But wouldn't you want

someone coaching the QBs that actually has coached QBs in the past?

by amiznit on Dec 11, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

There is still room to add..

if indeed Stud followed Porter to Memphis.

What's up Ryan? ARGHHHHHH!!! oops. ~ Patrick Chewing

by Mikeno on Dec 11, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

But then we have no OL coach

unless Yano takes over and becomes OL/TE coach. I guess this is possible considering he’s not recruiting coordinator anymore.

I’m not trying to be difficult, I promise.

by amiznit on Dec 11, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol I know..
unless Yano takes over and becomes OL/TE coach.

Sounds about right to me.

What's up Ryan? ARGHHHHHH!!! oops. ~ Patrick Chewing

by Mikeno on Dec 11, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope you're right Poseur..

IMO the ideal situation would be to have both Gonzales and Tolbert.

What's up Ryan? ARGHHHHHH!!! oops. ~ Patrick Chewing

by Mikeno on Dec 11, 2009 1:44 PM CST reply actions  

Here's another couple crazy theory

while we’re being irresponsible.

Tolbert – WRs
Gonzales – TEs and Passing Game Coordinator
Yano – OL (he actually has a lot of OL coaching experience at Duke, Utah, and Memphis)
OC – to be hired

or

Tolbert – WRs and TEs
Gonzales – QBs and Passing Game Coordinator (no idea if he’s qualified to coach QBs, but you have to think that’s part of the duties of a passing coordinator)
Yano – OL
OC – to be hired

In this second case, it’s a promotion for both (and Yano) and still leaves the OC to be added after the bowl game.

CHAD JONES! WOOOO!!!!

by The Bengal on Dec 11, 2009 1:50 PM CST reply actions  

Dump Studrawa

I think you give Stud way to much leeway Poseur. Let’s face it, the line has been nowhere near as good since Searels left for UGA.

Which gets me thinking, since they are going to have to hire a whole new defensive staff, might now be the time to poach him back?

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by PodKATT on Dec 11, 2009 2:02 PM CST reply actions  

SHHHHH!!!!

We’re busy hyping him up so someone will take him!

STUDWARA IS A GENIUS!!!

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by Poseur on Dec 11, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I just can't see it..

Crowton is OC + quarterbacks coach. We talk about not having a QB coach, but we technically have one. He’s just got other duties. Under the scenario you discuss above, if we hire Tolbert and Gonzales, one of them will have to coach QBs. Tolbert has only ever coached WRs, and I don’t know about Gonzales, but the idea of making a square peg fit into the QB hole doesn’t exactly uplift me..

Now if Yano can coach OL and TE, we would be able to hire Tolbert, Gonzales, AND an OC.

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by Richard Pittman on Dec 11, 2009 2:24 PM CST reply actions  

Yano has OL coaching experience

From his LSU Bio:

1982-84 Utah (offensive line/recruiting coordinator)
1989-95 Memphis (offensive line/recruiting coordinator)
2003-05 Duke (outside linebackers/special teams, 2003; offensive line, 2004-05)

No idea if any of those lines were any good.

And he was a guard at Toledo when he was playing.

How’s the house coming, Richard?

CHAD JONES! WOOOO!!!!

by The Bengal on Dec 11, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Do we still think Crowton is gone?

Everyone assumed he’d be gone, and then once the season ended and he wasn’t immediately fired everyone assumed he was staying.

This smells like Miles is secretly shopping him to secure him a new job so that he doesn’t need to be fired.

On the other hand, wouldn’t a new OC want to bring in his own assistant coaches? Maybe we already have found a new OC and he’s the one calling the shots behind some of these other assistant hires.

I still say that I’d be really surprised if Tyke or Gonzo was the new OC. Seems like Miles would be going after a proven guy. Miles can’t really risk the growing pains of a brand spankin new OC.

by LSU Jonno on Dec 11, 2009 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

shady movement

If there is someone pulling the strings behind the curtain, It’s either someone no one has ever heard of, or LSU pulled off the quietest coaching search ever. None of the usual sources even think that a search for an OC has begun in earnest.

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by PodKATT on Dec 11, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

Someone pulling the strings from behind the curtain is just a conspiracty theory. But my basic thought is that Crowton hasn’t been fired yet, and won’t be, but that he’ll find another job and leave the program on his own.

by LSU Jonno on Dec 11, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

If it happens, it'll most likely

happen between the bowl game and National Signing Day. Gives you time to have him meet with any recruits that are still on the fence (hello, Seastrunk, Reed, Davis) while still giving Crowton time to land gracefully.

Les does seem to handle personnel moves like this extraordinairily well.

CHAD JONES! WOOOO!!!!

by The Bengal on Dec 11, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yano is Keyser Sose

After reading his resume, I’m convinced he’s been running the team this year. Set up McCarthy, pulled strings at Memphis to get Porter to leave, put Ben-Gay in the OLs’ jocks, coated vaseline onto the receivers’ gloves, personally assigned the replay official to the Bama game, dehydrated Patrick Peterson, injured the TEs on the sidelines at Ole Miss, substituted placebos for Scott’s and Keiland’s calcium supplements, and set Miles’ clock back one second.

He’s been setting this up all year.

Ladies and Gentlemen, your new offensive coordinator:

Watch out, Les. You’re next.

CHAD JONES! WOOOO!!!!

by The Bengal on Dec 11, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Same MO as Malveto

He’s replaced/replacing the two openings he currently has after Porter leaving and (alledgedly) firing McCarthy for cause. He’s giving Crowton time to find something else so it doesn’t appear as a firing.

CHAD JONES! WOOOO!!!!

by The Bengal on Dec 11, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Miles

Has shown an uncanny ability to dump coaches on other people by getting them new jobs to save face for all parties involved. There has been rumors of OC interviews, though.

I want to be clear… we are completely guessing here. It’s kind of fun.

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by Poseur on Dec 11, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

irresponsible reply

“I think it’s that we had to get a recruiter in here now, so we hired Gonzales, but we still want Tolbert. Given his connection to the school, I think he will take the WR job in a few weeks, albeit with a pay bump, and Gonzales will take over as the OC, because I can’t see why he would make a lateral move just out of spite.”

boom goes the dynamite.

what if this is true, yano coaches TE-OL, stud is out, and we hire a QB coach? is that the right number of coaches?
i feel like tim curry trying to figure out how many bullets are in the gun at the end of the movie “Clue”.

by Justin Goar on Dec 11, 2009 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

1+1+2+1

And Communism is just a red herring.

Incidentally, i found that whole movie on youtube the other day, great way to spend an afternoon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8fqehGRrw

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by PodKATT on Dec 11, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Love that movie

I have a feeling there may still be some moves made, but if they do happen, it won’t be till post-bowl.

Really when you look around the league there are a couple of coaching moves that either are, or could be, coming.

by Billy Gomila on Dec 11, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1

I’m going to go home and sleep.

With my wife.

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by Poseur on Dec 11, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Abbott and Costello's "Who's on First" routine

is much easier to understand than is the various scenarios that you guys have put forth. I’m sure they are all possible, a few are probable and one or two are definite. Just figuring out which one to put in which column is the game.

by lawildbull on Dec 11, 2009 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

What I think of the coaching situation

It’s entertaining.

Gregatron is not responsible for any of the crap he just wrote.
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by Gregatron on Dec 11, 2009 3:36 PM CST reply actions  

I can't help but notice the picture

Looks like Miles put on a little Rogaine.

Jrlz rhymes with Charles.

by Jrlz on Dec 11, 2009 7:22 PM CST reply actions  

Key word is "competent"

Miles must hire a competent OC with a proven record, which Crowton was not. And hopefully Miles learned his lesson not to promote an insider like his failed co-DC project in ’08 to replace Pelini. The new OC must be good at developing QBs and devising plays to utilize the rich talent and speed LSU is blessed with (e.g., throw to Lafell and Tolliver often on short routes and let them run; get the ball to the fastest athlete in the NCAA, Holliday, in space). Crowton wasted so much talent with stupid plays.

by UteTiger on Dec 14, 2009 9:18 AM CST reply actions  

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