LSU vs. UVA and Other Saturday Games From "Somewhere In Middle America" Open Thread
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 12:00 PM CDT
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Go Razorbacks!
Up 2-0 in top 1st. Show those hubrisians that they’re idiots.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions
2 on, no out, freshman pitcher on the mound
Why are you bunting?
Wow, this is new, a freshman struggling a bit in Omaha. I can’t believe I’m gonna type this, but WOO PIG SOOEY!
Hit batsman
Thank God the umpire actually enforced the rule on trying to avoid a hit by pitch. There’s nothing worse than a player leaning into a pitch. Of course, the second HBP was legit and he was awarded first base.
Freshman still struggling, throwing a lot of pitches
Arkansas’s pitcher is doing alright through the first 4 batters. Advantage Arkansas so far.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions
Arkansas up 4-0..
Take ’em down.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions
Still early
They can still very easily win this game. They can score lots of runs. That said, I hated their attitude of taking a very good Arkansas team for granted. I believe in the baseball gods and one should not anger them.
Play every game as if it is Game 3 of the Championship Series. Worry about the next game tomorrow.
9-2 Arkansas
Looking really good for the Razorbacks at this point.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions
9-2!
Three-run shot!
Ramirez officially allowed 7 runs and 3 2/3 innings. CSF has now used their #2 and #3 starters. Good thing they didn’t use their ace, eh? Don’t need him to shut down Arkansas….
their ace is up in the pen
but their #3 starter has kind of settled down a bit. Too bad.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
It's the best-case scenario...
only if we beat Virginia. If we beat UVA, we’re in really good shape against Arkansas on Monday.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to jinx it...
But I have not been this confident in an LSU team since 1997.
That was a horrible call. To our benefit. but horrible. Almost as bad as Schimpf’s play on the ball.
Ranaudo's been burnt
He has way too many hits allowed for a guy with as many K’s as he throws. The defense always seems to let him down. Nice to see Mahtook buck that trend.
by Poseur on Jun 13, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I Have To Admit As An LSU Alumi
several generations, baseball I don’t follow them much until they get to the regional. Which is strange I might add, cause when I was at LSU in the early 90s and Skip was there, and we won and won, tickets for students were free. I saw dozens and dozens of games. But hard to follow a thousand miles away :).
Ranaudo doesn't look sharp, concur
We need to get some runs across. We won’t win a pitcher’s duel today.
Our Defense seems to be on tonight,
which is great since Ranaudo is less than his normal self.
In 61 pitches, 28 balls, 33 strikes. His normal work rate is closer to 2 strikes per ball.
We all know how the mainstream media feels about the Tigers.
My comment about you not believing LSU – CSF was based on your missive of earlier.
Another O's fan?!
Welcome! LSU is the college embodiement of Earl Weaver’s theories on baseball.
Another hit…
haha
Geaux Eaux’s and Geaux Tigers
Geaux Eaux's
by NawlinsOriole on Jun 13, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
J-Mitch walked!
Bases juiced for Helenihi. Let’s face it, no one in print or on the web has hyped him more than I have. Let’s Geaux!
This Is Going To Sound So Sexist
but thinking the guy getting interviewed isn’t wondering if he might hook up with the reporter?
Schimpf
is having a miserable night in the field. No errors, but now two misplays. And Ranaudo is still struggling.
Ranaudo
He’s been off all game. Pitcher abuse is cuumlative and we kept throwing him out there for huge pitch counts. He’s been nowehere near the strike zone most of tonight.
Guys, with this pitching change, I'm also gone
I recveived a call and have to make about a 100 mile round trip. Guess I’ll listen to Jim Hawthorne and will read all your comments when I return.
Schinmpf!
He makes up for two lousy plays with an incredible catch!
3-2 halfway through the 4th! Let’s break this baby open!
Sorry guys..
One.. sorry for the CSF thing. Brain fart.
Two.. sorry for disappearing. I developed a splitting headache around 5:00pm and finally got to feeling better and got into kid-duty while watching. Kid’s in bed now.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions
Pitching
Now that we’re in the pen, what do you do if you’re Mainieri? You have five innings to worry about. You figure one will be thrown by Ott. One by Jones. Do you let Bert go the other three? Or bring in Cain as a long reliever?
Or look to a starter like Bradshaw?
Inning by inning..
Leave in Bert as long as he’s effective. Don’t let any hitter see any pitcher twice. I say Bert the next inning, maybe 2. Then go with Cain. Get Byrd throwing for lefties. Use the whole pen if necessary.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I've got to assume we're going to go deep in the tourney.
So that makes Bradshaw, Ross, and Coleman (obviously) off limits.
I think I leave Burt in until he get’s into a jam. I don’t worry about his pitch count or inning. I’d let him go until Ott if he was cruising.
With how spread out the tourney is..
you don’t have to worry so much about it. Coleman’s off-limits unless it’s very tight in the 8th inning, but there’s no reason not to consider Ross. He wouldn’t have to start until at least wednesday.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I still don't use any starters...
If we lose tonight, and still have Coleman, Ross, and Bradshaw available, we’ve got a chance to work our way out of the losers bracket.
If we burn Bradshaw, we may have Ranaudo back by that 4th game since he only threw 60 pitches or so tonight, but if he really is worn down, Bradshaw may be the better option.
The schedule is..
Saturday, Monday, (Wednesday), Friday, Friday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday
The Wednesday game is if you’re in the loser’s bracket. Ranaudo can come back for one of the Friday games, and possibly the Wednesday game. We won’t need our #3 starter until Wednesday or Friday. We can use a starter tonight and bring him back Wednesday or next Friday or later.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
We desperately need to get out of this inning
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
Lemahieu almost got that one..
Now we’ve got trouble.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions
If you watch the replay, when nola got the ball..
no one was at first yet. It would have risked throwing the ball into the dugout.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I live 5 minutes from campus..
i don’t really have any plans right now, but I expect to be doing something or another.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I can definitely see doing that..
..but get up with me closer to time. I usually don’t make plans 5 months in advance :)
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, we have a bit of a rally here..
no bunting!
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions
That definitely wasn't a bunt
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
And that's why you don't bunt!
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Good at bats
You know, both of his strikeouts were good at bats. That’s what a good approach gets you at the plate. He really was due.
Mitchell just ain't hitting the lefties.. I don't know why we started him.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions
Alright.. it's a new game now
Time for Ross to have the game of his life. We need another 2 innings out of him.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions
I know
It’s not like we didn’t discuss it on this very site. And though hes a first rounder, that doesn’t mean he can hit a LHP
I like Mainieri..
but some of his decisions are very difficult to defend.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Decisions
I don’t think he makes any truly awful decisions, but he does make some decisions which I think are not the best. He overworked Ranaudo in the postseason without reason, he loves to bunt (though he holds that in check), and he is addicted to his favorite players regardless of their play.
Sure, problems. But not really that bad. And his positive decisions far outweigh the negatives. Particularly his steadying influence and lack of panic.
The thing is that he does the hard things really well.
It’s hard to build a good team in the face of the MLB draft. You need to sign good players who aren’t going to sign MLB out of high school. It’s hard to motivate. He is, therefore, an excellent coach.
The thing is, figuring out to bench Mitchell against lefties is EASY. Figuring out to quit bunting is EASY. I don’t know why we keep making the same simple mistakes.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Schimpf is making up for his bad play earlier
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions
So this is a good enough time to break this out as any...
I’m wearing the same shirt that I wore for every one of our 2008 football losses last year…
Good a time as any..
but it’s still not a good time.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
that's a second potential double play that only ended up as one out..
not sure what happened there. I guess Lemahieu didn’t field it cleanly.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions
bottoms up..
I have an Abita waiting for me, but after my splitting headache of 4 hours ago, I’m just leery of getting it out.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I never would have guessed we'd have 12 hits through 6
and htat it would be a close game.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions
eh..
you win some you lose some
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
problem is we've already used one of our late-inning guys.
We’re going deeper into the bullpen than we usually go.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Not a fan of this move
Ross let up a bloop single. He could finishthis inning up and keep going. He’s thrown one bad pitch.
Leave Jones in..
take him out in favor of Ott if anyone gets on.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He got through it..
and a lefty’s up first in the 8th, so might as well leave him in for a bit. Now let’s get more runs.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Poseur manages the pen...
… I think there’s a lefty due up. Leave Jones in for that matchup. Then bring in Cain. As soon as he lets up a baserunner, bring in Ott.
Wilson's a very good pitcher.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
Quiet bot 7..
Let’s get 3 quick outs here and get into the home stretch.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions
This is the sort of move I said would be good against Rice..
I can’t complain about it now. If he gets through this innng quickly, he comes back on Monday no problem.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions
I criticized Rice for doing this sort of thing..
but it was a different situation. Rice showed us their entire bullpen and burned up a starter for the next game. With an extra day between games, I think it changes things.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Completely different
First off, we’re up while Rice was down big while they were burning up relievers. Also, this isn’t a best of three series. This is a double elimination tournament. coming out of the loser’s bracket is really hard, especially with CSF sitting there. You burn the pen to win this game. They’ll rest tomorrow.
OK, so we burn up a little of Coleman's juice for his Monday start.
We bring in Ross in relief for Monday’s game if needed, and Ranaudo starts Wednesday.
If we win tonight and Monday,
there is no wednesday.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Loser's bracket game is on wednesday..
if you win the first two games, you don’t play again until FRIDAY.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Teh move works..
Get some runs.. bring in Ott for the 9th.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions
For the first time, I like the move..
AND IT WORKS OUT!
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Well that couldn't have been worse
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions
At least we got that..
but it would be nice not to have the out.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions
The hit and run
I fucking hate the hit and run even more than I hate the bunt. This cost us a baserunner AND most of LeMaheiu’s at bat. The hit and run is an abomination before God. While the bunt is usually a bad idea, the hit and run is ALWAYS a bad idea.
And LeMahieu gets a hit when you just let him hit. I’m actually angry even though we scored.
and I think that's your ballgame
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions
Well my shirt will improve to 4-5!!!
We’re going to need it this year for football season fella’s, we’ve got to build its confidence back.
Hats off to UVa
This game was much closer than the score. They battlled hard and really pushed us. I believe this is a truly great LSU team, and the Cavs pushed them to the limit. They deserve tons of credit.
They have nothing to be ashamed of. A few breaks, and they win this game. I was more afraid of the Cavs than any other our side of the bracket.
Hultzen's the best LHP we'll see on this side of the bracket..
and we beat him, without getting a good starting performance from Ranaudo. I think we’re in really good shape.
Richard Pittman
by Richard Pittman on Jun 13, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome game
Thanks for the commentary guys. I read from my phone, but was unable to participate.
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