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2010 Recruiting: Spencer Ware Commits to LSU

In what is a growing theme in LSU recruiting for the 2010 class, the Tigers picked up another surprise commitment yesterday.  Multi-talented athlete Spencer Ware of Princeton High School in Cincinnati, Ohio, committed to Les Miles and the Fightin' Tigers. I had actually heard of him, but considering he lives in Big 10 country and was being recruited by the likes of Michigan, Iowa, and other Big 10 schools, I really had not invested much if any effort in following him.  One of the recruiting services has a picture of him wearing a Michigan cap on his profile page.  I just wasn't expecting this at all.

Ware is a quarterback-wide receiver-defensive back for his high school team, but figures to play running back.  He is listed at 5'11" and 215# on Scout, 5'11" 220# on Rivals, and word is that he is probably bigger than that.  He has a surprisingly good arm for an "athlete playing quarterback," and it wouldn't surprise me if he ended up being a fill-in quarterback one day if we have a disastrous string of injuries at the position.

There is extensive free video of him available, posted after the jump:

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This is over 12 minutes of video, starting with some defensive back footage, but mostly it is film of him running the ball from the quarterback position.  I like him as a prospect; while the usual commentary has been about him being a power back, I see more of an "all-around" running back in him.  He looks more like a cut-back runner with power than a power running back to me.  I don't think he's going to be a Charles Scott-type runner.  He has been compared to TJ Duckett, but I think that's a terrible comparison.  He's been compared in style to Knowshon Moreno and Kevin Faulk, but I think I have a better comparison.

The running back he reminds me of is Justin Vincent.  I know, I know.  Justin Vincent has a real up-and-down career at LSU, but let's not forget that "up" is an integral part of the term "up-and-down".  After Vincent's freshman year, we were hyping him as a potential Heisman candidate.  When Justin Vincent was at his best, he had good vision to find the holes and the cut-back ability to get through them.  He never quite had the break-away speed to burn out the 80 yard runs, but he was very productive his freshman year.

I see Spencer Ware the same way.  In the film that is available for him, he seems to have a knack for seeing the avenue of escape and getting through it.  He does not just try to outrun the defenders; he has an instinct and a vision for the best way to avoid them.  He can also be very difficult to bring down with arms alone because of his strength, and yes he WILL run over someone.

For this reason, Ware looks to me like a perfect zone-blocking runner.  Zone blocking is a little bit of a complex topic for the casual football watcher, but if you want a quick primer on how it works, check out this article by Joel from Rocky Top Talk. In brief, the idea behind zone blocking is not necessarily to power a hole into a defense, but rather to let the defender start moving in one direction and then use his momentum against him to get him out of position.  You get the whole defense moving like that and the defense loses its shape and holes open up.  The running back's job is to find the holes that are opening and get through them.

You need an intelligent runner with good vision and cut-back ability.  You do not necessarily need top-end speed.  Ware seems to have the intelligence, the vision, and the cut-back to do a job like this.  He could also potentially move to the other side of the ball and play linebacker.  

When I compare Ware to Justin Vincent, I think that it also applies to Justin Vincent's limitations.  Vincent's productivity declined when his weight increased, and Spencer Ware reportedly has the kind of fluctuating weight that makes you worried.  He could end up being TJ Duckett-like in size if he does not watch out.  I don't have a problem if he ends up being a Charles Scott-like 230# if he can run like Scott, but Scott is not a cut-back runner.  He is a straight-ahead runner.  Only time will tell if Ware can run like Scott.  If he can't, he should stay at more like 220# or lighter to keep his quickness.  He seems like the kind of guy who could easily balloon to 260# however.

Word is that he chose LSU at least as much for an opportunity to play baseball as for football.  That is probably why he was looking beyond his midwest home, as there are not very many good baseball programs near the Great Lakes, and certainly none as good as LSU's.  In fact, we may end up losing him to the Major League Baseball draft.

If his word is to be believed, his academics are good enough not to have to worry about qualifying, though he may have to pick up his ACT a point or so, which is not a big deal.

This recruiting class has been full of multi-talented players who do not have one set position, players like Cameron FordhamSam Gibson, and Tharold Simon.  This is also not the first multi-sport athlete in the class, as we also have baseball player Zach Lee and track runner Justin Hunter.  Ware is the third commitment to this class of a player who is a quarterback for his high school team, and we are hot on the trail of a 4th in Louisiana wide receiver Trovon Reed.  We are emphasizing football intelligence, then, even among players who will not be quarterbacks at the next level.

The question has been asked of what this might mean for other running backs on the recruiting board, like Storm Johnson.  Sadly, I think Storm Johnson will not be a part of this class.  If you have followed Georgia running back Storm Johnson's recruitment, you know that he supposedly committed to LSU before, but was told to hold off.  We are definitely holding a spot open for a game-breaker like Lache Seastrunk, and we may hold a spot for an in-state guy like Alfred Blue, but there just isn't room in this class for a guy like Storm Johnson.  I think he is a fine prospect who should do well wherever he goes, but for whatever reason the coaches have probably decided to move on here.

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The first thing I thought when I saw his picture is that he is freaking huge, he looks like he could easily be in college right now. I looked at his profile on Scouts and Rivals, and saw the mediocre 40 time, and I thought he must just be a guy who runs over everyone cause he is that much bigger. In fact, that might be why he gets the power runner stereotype, because although he definitely can run over people, he looks like a very good open field runner to me. He has great vision, and great patience, which is something not many high school running backs have. He doesn’t just sprint to the whole and try to outrun/run over everyone for 8-15 yards, he lets his blocks develop.

Honestly, I can’t really think of one guy who has this same style. Ummm, yep, I really can’t. I just had the idea that maybe he runs like Mcfadden, but not quite, Mcfadden is much faster. Then I thought Adrian Peterson, and he runs a little like him, but after watching youtube of both of them, they don’t quite match up. I could think of 4 people while watching the video. As far as an open field runner, he reminds me a little bit of Eric Dickerson, just as far as how smoothly he makes his cuts. When he is juking around, and when people are trying to bring him down in the pocket, he reminds me a lot of Vince Young. When he runs up the middle, he reminds me of Maurice Jones-Drew, people just bounce off of him. And he finishes runs like Earl Campbell.

Now I am not saying he will be any of these people, that is just the style of play he reminds me of. My two favorite runs are at 2:30, where he just creams that guy before going out of bounds, and 2:45, where he eludes 3 guys while a fourth is hanging on to his sleeve.

As far as how good he is going to be on the next level, I think he will be very good. He seems like the ideal person to run the Wild Tiger, or run Florida’s shotgun goal line offense. I honestly don’t think he needs to gain much more weight, if any. 220 is plenty good enough to run over defensive backs, and big enough to fall forward when tackled by linebackers. And despite his mediocre posted 40 time, he is definitely fast enough, and he should get faster in college, like most kids do. I wasn’t intending to make this a 4 paragraph comment, but this guy looks really good.

by Ianoka on Jul 30, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

He looks like a really solid prospect..

I still like the Justin Vincent comparison. JV had a very high upside, but he just didn’t reach it. I think this kid might have a similar upside and run a similar style.

Richard Pittman

by Richard Pittman on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks good..

Yeah the footage at 2:45 was hilarious, and the several stiff arms he delivered to would be tacklers.

But what is going on with Storm? Are we backing off of him or vice-versa? I always thought the talk of Lache going with Aubarn was a bit premature, especially since Dyer is heavy on them as of right now. But I like what Storm could have brought to us as a RB. I hope we can still recruit him to come.

by Mikeno on Jul 30, 2009 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

It looks like we've made our choices at running back..

We take Spencer Ware; we go hard after Lache Seastrunk; we take Alfred Blue if he wants us. Other than that, I think we’re set. Storm may be able to get back into it if Lache and Blue go elsewhere, but by that point I imagine the relationship will have soured and we’d look in state.

Richard Pittman

by Richard Pittman on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds good..

But I thought we could have committed 3 TBs considering that we will lose at least CS and KW, and that we will only have Michael Ford and maybe Richard Murphy returning as players who realistically could be called upon to run the ball as RBs. I’m still not sold on Drayton Calhoun becoming a RB, and even still he is in the mold of a Seastrunk and Blue. Storm was more like a Lattimore in build, although I think Storm plays less tall and is a bit faster than Lattimore, imo. What’ your take on our RB situation as a team?

by Mikeno on Jul 31, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Stevan Ridley

Barring transfers or injuries, we’ll have Murphy, Ridley, and Ford coming back as running backs next year. We will definitely sign 2 this year, and we have one or two recruits who COULD be running backs if it’s absolutely necessary, like Ronnie Vinson. Plus, Russell Shepard could end up as a Harvin-like hybrid player.

Running back is not a position that will have a great deal of depth next year, but it will be better than you realize.

Richard Pittman

by Richard Pittman on Jul 31, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live in the Cincinnati area and

I look forward to checking this kid out this fall. I’ll report back on how he looks in person. His video is pretty freakin’ awesome. Not only is the production quality very good, but the number of plays is great. The kid clearly has game.

I wonder how much the influence the baseball team’s success had in swaying him to go to LSU. Watching two Tigers win national championships in two big time college sports had to be a great incentive to pick LSU over OSU. Plus, it does get damned cold up here in the winters…the summers are pretty mild but the winters SUCK.

by Displaced Tiger on Jul 30, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I have never once heard

a football recruit going to a school because of the baseball team’s success. But perhaps that’s why Oregon State beat USC last year and nearly won the Pac 10, thanks to those back-to-back NC’s in baseball a few years ago.

by 2Cor12:9 on Jul 30, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

We think QB Zach Lee choose LSU..

in part because of baseball. Football players are influenced by a program’s track program all the time. If a guy wants to play two sports, it makes sense that the quality of the school’s other program will influence him.

Richard Pittman

by Richard Pittman on Jul 31, 2009 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also...

Miles’ enthusiastic support for LSU baseball—shown by his attendance at the CWS and allowing one of his scholarship players and real contributor to the football team, to devote an entire spring to baseball (and ultimately lose that player to the MLB)— has to be a huge draw for two sport athletes. Why go to a school that would limit your professional prospects to a single sport, when you can go to a school that will support your in your efforts in two sports? See also Trindon Holiday and Chad Jones.

by Displaced Tiger on Jul 31, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you are missing the point that he is also a baseball player
In fact, we may end up losing him to the Major League Baseball draft

by shelby924 on Jul 31, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

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