Hey, I've Been Parodied!
by Poseur on Aug 10, 2009 8:30 PM CDT
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PrintApparently, the guys over at Red Cup Rebellion don't like my Ole Miss prediction.
Really, I have no intention of engaging in an internet slap fight with them, but honestly, even though the general premise of my post was to deny that Ole Miss was a top ten team, I thought I was pretty nice. I complimented them on the Grove, said it was nice they were getting props, complimented their star quarterback, and even refrained from the easy cheap shots on Houston Nutt.
Someone seems a little insecure over there. They think we're gonna stink? OK. See if you agree with their logic, which is primarily that Les Miles is a moron, Trindon Holliday is apparently our best player, and our recruiting is terrible because Keiland Williams is a second stringer behind a 1st team all-SEC running back. Maybe they're right.
I just think it's cool I got satired. That made my day.
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Don't worry...
…I got your back. Haha that comment took forever to write, but that article was beyond ridiculous. I can’t stand people saying that Les Miles is a bad coach, or a moron. He’s a great recruiter, his teams never give up, and honestly, how many 4th quarter wins have we had in the past few years? There is no one I would rather have on the sidelines with 15 minutes left to play. Realistically, probably the main reason he gets such a bad rap is because of the Auburn game where Flynn threw the winning touchdown to Byrd, which wasn’t a bad call, there was plenty of time, the only person’s fault it would’ve been would be the offense for not hustling to the line, and there were 3 seconds left when Byrd caught it, the scorekeeper just didn’t stop it for another 2 seconds.
Poseur it's good to have a sense of humor...
…because there are a lot of people out there that have a thin skin.
I’m of the belief that LSU will probably go 9-3 this season. But this belief by some of the Ole Miss people have me baffled. I guess one successful season up there justifies them flaming on everyone else. Yes, Ole Miss will be good this year. Will they be better than LSU? I don’ really know. I think our defense this year will tell the tale. If we can keep people out of the end zone a little more than we did last season, I think we will be OK.
I’m looking forward to a season that will, at least, be entertaining.
BTW, Ole Miss seems to be very full of themselves right about now. It’ll be interesting to see how they handle the success of last season.
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by Richard Pittman on Aug 10, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions
Testing revised new signature.
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by Richard Pittman on Aug 10, 2009 9:56 PM CDT reply actions
on the signature...
Not to attack your signature, but I think “football nerd” or “LSU nerd” might be a little better. Though you do lose the one-word finality. It’s a toss-up.
by Andrew Tessier on Aug 10, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
My nerddom is not topic-specific.
Poseur will probably back me up on this.
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by Richard Pittman on Aug 10, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
So our experience with Ed Orgeron doesn't allow us to judge who is and isn't a bad coach?
Really!? Curley Hallman… Yeah, I said it.
And for whoever said we needed senses of humor, look in a damned mirror. Juco was simply proving a point that every team in the West has some question marks and anyone can tailor an argument as to “why so-and-so won’t be so good.” Poseur did it with Ole Miss, Juco did it with LSU, and somebody can easily do it with Alabama.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 11, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Way too long-wnded response
Considering Juco wrote this over at Team Speed Kills…
Alabama by a wide margin (or margarine if you don’t understand the English language). LSU does not worry many of us at all. I have to admit that most of my worry comes from the fact that we beat LSU 31-13 last season while losing to Alabama. Unless John Chavis is just that good of a defensive coordinator, I wouldn’t bet the farm on LSU. They were dominant over no in-conference foe last year, with their largest margin of victory over an SEC school coming in the form of a 34-24 victory over a horrible Mississippi State team. Their deceptively dominant Peach Bowl victory (Georgia Tech turned the ball over seven times while garnering only ten fewer offensive yards than the Bayou Bengals) is really all they are going on to build up their expectations. People are talking about Jordan Jefferson, but I’m not buying it yet. He was mediocre against us in a loss, lost to Arkansas (completing less than 50% of his passes against their porous secondary) and averaged 5.7 yards per attempt against Georgia Tech. In case you were wondering, that’s worse than Tyson Lee AND Wesley Carroll did against GA Tech. Sure, LSU won that game is strong fashion, but it wasn’t because of Jefferson. Charles “I only rushed for 10 yards on 10 carries against Ole Miss” Scott should continue to be an overrated back on an overrated team. Why isn’t QB uncertainty as big a problem for Alabama as LSU? Because Alabama hits teams in the mouth with the running game, and they don’t let up. They don’t fall behind by enough that passing becomes essential, and when they do, they have Julio Jones. I’m not certain McElroy will be good, but I think it’s safe to say he’ll play better than Jefferson in 2009 since he won’t be asked to do nearly as much. Alabama will have a stingy, almost air-tight defense. Scoring against Alabama will be like birthing a child: rare, painful, and messy. If the Rebels can get into the endzone early and force a turnover or two, then I like their chances against Alabama. Otherwise, Alabama’s an “L.”
Also, Alabama’s coach is Nick Saban while LSU’s is Les Miles. Miles is a buffoon. How do you win only 7 regular season games with the talent LSU had last season? Baffling.
… I don’t think that was his point. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to think he believes LSU won’t be good. And once again, I did say nice things about Ole Miss. I pointed out their assets and then pointed out some negatives (and it’s not like I invented the concept of regression to the mean out of thin air) and said, "this doesn’t look like a top ten team"
I didn’t misconstrue Ole Miss or play fast and loose with the numbers. I just pointed out that Ole Miss made a huge improvement last season and just maintaining that improvement will be a huge accomplishment. If Ole Miss goes 8-4, Nutt should still be praised. To quote myself, improvement is rarely linear.
My post was never intended as the reflexive "OLE MISS SUX!! LSU RULZ!!" post. It’s setting a fair goalpost for Ole Miss’ success. Is top ten possible? Sure. But I think it would be unreasonable to expect a top ten year. Hell, I think it’s unreasonable to expect LSU to finish in the top ten.
In short (too late), lighten up over there. With preseason hype is gonna come skepticism. Especially for a team so recently removed from a terrible season.
I don't think we need to lighten up at all.
It was intended to be somewhat informative but mostly humorous. Yes, Juco thinks that Les Miles is overrated as a coach, but a whole lot of folks do. That shouldn’t be a surprise to LSU fans.
We’ve got nothing against skepticism. Hell, we’re skeptics ourselves. While we haven’t realeased our season predictions yet (a couple of weeks away), I doubt you’ll see any that say “HOTTY TODDY 14-0 BCS CHAMPS BABY YEAH!!!”
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 11, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Les Miles is a bad coach.
I think LSU will win nine or ten games. Where in what I wrote at TSK do I state something to the contrary?
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by Juco All-American on Aug 11, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I simply don't get the sentiment
that Les Miles is a bad coach. I have expressed elsewhere that I think he is a below average game manager. However, he excels at two other (more important) areas of being a college football coach: recruiting and preparing his teams. His record on pulling in top notch recruiting classes and beating the hell out of whoever his team plays in a bowl game is a matter of public record.
And let’s not forget about the 2005 season — his first. But hey, it’s not like he had to overcome any adversity or anything that year….
I think Les Miles is one of the best coaches in cfb, and despite his occasional stupid in-game decisions, and I’m proud of my damn strong football coach.
Gregatron is not responsible for any of the crap he just wrote.
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They als-ole miss the point that
while it makes sense to ask for validation of a team that came out of no where to close the season with a nice winning streak, those same questions are not valid for a team that has won consistently for nearly a decade and happened to have a down year.
I do find is hilarious that fans at a school having Houston Nutt as their head coach is questioning Miles. Seriously, other than the occassional big game, what has he done? And when I say “big game” I generally mean sneaking up on somebody and getting a victory that no one expected b/c we all know that he hasn’t won any actual big games that matter…i.e., conference or national championships. Hell, has ever taken a team to a BCS bowl? Don’t get me wrong, I loved the upset of Florida and the smack down of TTech. Hell, I even love his fire on the sidelines and am glad that he stayed in the conference because he is an entertaining coach. But he is no genius.
by Displaced Tiger on Aug 11, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions
Houston Nutt has never had the talent accross the board possessed by
LSU, Alabama, Florida, Auburn, etc.
Yet he can still get his teams ready to beat them. THAT is why people say he’s a good coach.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Aug 11, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Nothing against Nutt...
like I said above, I like him and think he is good for the conference and will be good for Ole Miss. But, a good football coach in the SEC does more than just gameplan and motivate…he gets the talent. No excuses.
Let’s assume that Les isn’t as good at gameplanning as some other coaches (a point I do not concede), but he recruits well and manages to win more games than other coaches. Which would you say is more valuable … gameplanning or recruiting?
I think that Les brings a good balance of gameplanning, motivating, and recruiting, which gets back to my point: to be a good SEC coach, you have to do all three.
by Displaced Tiger on Aug 11, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok... for the last time.
I don’t ACTUALLY believe many of the things that I said in the article.
I think LSU will probably win 9 regular season games this year as well.
All I was saying is that a case can be made that ANY team will underperform. LSU is good at football, and I loved my experience there in the fall.
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