Off Topic: Why Indie Rock Sucks
by Poseur on Aug 20, 2009 11:25 AM CDT
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I was perusing online music reviews because that's just the sort of guy I am, when I came across this review of the Thermals new album:
"At the Bottom of the Sea" is a restrained, moody ballad that shows a possible way forward for the band. Ditch the forced rock & roll and get melancholy and quiet. It may scare off some of their fan base, but making another album as formulaic and uninspired as Now We Can See will likely leave them with no fan base at all.
Please God, no.
I'm a ridiculous music snob. I've been in arguments over who is better, Teeneage Fanclub or Big Star (clearly Big Star). I own every Pavement album. I own four albums by Sonic Youth... and I don't even LIKE Sonic Youth. Hell, I own the Minutemen documentary, We Jam Econo. So it pains me to say this, but here it goes:
Indie rock fucking sucks right now.
I don't mean, there's no band as good as Pavement. I don't mean that I'm mildly disappointed in this year's releases. I mean it flat out sucks. It is humorless. It is musical tinkling. It is, above all else, boring.
Just to single them out, I bought Animal Collective's Merriweather Post Pavilion. It has earned rave after rave, and the album is named after the concert venue from my hometown. So I enthusiastically slapped down 12 bucks for the CD (yes, I still buy CD's). And it bored the ever living shit out of me. It just didn't go anywhere and it was so wrapped up in its arty pretention of being an important musical statement that the band completely forgot to write a damn hook for any of their songs. My girlfriend, who is a classically trained musician, gave it a listen because maybe I was missing out on the musicality of it or some such nonsense. She thought it sucked more than I did. So it failed to impress the actual music snob and it failed as a pop record. I just don't understand why it is so praised and so popular.
But it's not just them. Seemingly every critically acclaimed indie rock record of the pasty five years is a cure for insomnia. Have you ever sat down and actually tried to listen to an entire Deerhoof record? It's brutal.
I went to ACL this spring. At one show, the opening act was the Obits, and they blew the room away despite the fact it was still 11 AM. It was so good, total strangers were still walking up to me about five hours later ("Did you SEE that first band? They were AWESOME!"). After getting us to a fevered pitch, the American Analog Set came out and did a show so mind-numbingly boring and droning that nearly half the crowd left. Like flat out left. The Thermals and the Hold Steady then came on and saved the day. And the review of the show I read ripped the Obits as boring and talked about how moving and beautiful AAS was. Now, we can disagree over taste, but it was like we were at a different show. And let's review: total strangers telling me the Obits were awesome and people leaving in droves during AAS. Yet AAS got a rave, the Obits got ripped, and the author of the review LEFT before the headlining Hold Steady, probably because they are too mainstream. Despite the fact THS is not exactly selling millions of copies (though they should - they rock, people).
What ever happened to hooks? What ever happened to smiling? What ever happened to turning the amps up and rocking out? I blame this all on Radiohead for having commercial success with an album as terrible as Kid A (yeah, I said it). Pavement might have had its ridiculously arty and pretentious moments, but they also could craft a terrific song. "Summer Babe" isn't great because of the lo-fi approach to recording or the ironic lyrics or its odd construction (though all do help). It's great because, at the end of the day, it's a fun song to listen to. Hell, even if it's not fun, a good mopey song can be great.
To use the Thermals as an example, I think their best song is "Test Pattern," which probably is no one's idea of a fun song. But part of the reason it works is because it stands in contrast to the up tempo numbers. Jesus, not every song has to be a dirge. Not every band has to spend its time trying to change our conception of what music is or some such nonsense. Don't reinvent the wheel. The wheel is great invention.
Besides, I dare you to watch this and not have this song stuck in your head for the next 24 hours...
All Music is entitled to rip the album. Hell, I agree it is not the band's best. But please God, the last thing the world needs is another quiet and melancholy indie rock band. THAT is the formula right now, and it is killing me. Can't we have some more bitter sarcasm and a perverse sense of fun? Or are the Hold Steady, Drive by Truckers, and the Thermals the only good rock bands left in the world?
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Hearing about the bad review for the Obits . . .
. . . makes me want to turn my mouth upside down and scream.
by TheBobLoblawBlog on Aug 20, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions
Indie Rock
I completely agree about Animal Collective. I gave into the hype and downloaded Merriweather Post Pavilion. Aimless. Bland. Awful. Pick any adjective you want. It reminded me of the Battles in that it’s a tremendously hyped, pitchforke favorite that I can’t stand. It’s just horrible. A friend told me, for Animal Collective, you really should start on Strawberry Jam, so I’m gonna give them a second shot sometime soon.
I think we’re into different stuff, but to me, the past few years have been damn strong for music overall. I can’t comment on 2009 since I’m a bit behind this year, but the best I’ve heard ‘06 – ’08 are LCD Soundsystem, !!!, Hot Chip, Rodrigo y Gabriela, Ghostland Observatory, Dr. Dog, Hercules and Love Affair, Booka Shade, Thievery Corporation, Muse, Digitalism, Justice, Dungen, Ambulance LTD, and Blitzen Trapper . I bolded the ones that would seemingly be up your alley. Dungen is Swedish and the lyrics aren’t in English, but if you think of vocals as another instrument, then you would like it.
But then there’s the guilty pleasure. Too many genres are just stagnant and growing stale. Shake things up or get left behind. Nobody’s doing that as much as Umprhey’s McGee, regardless of any label they get stuck with. If you stay open minded and know where to start, they’ve made some great music. The strongest statement they ever made was the 7/19/07 show. If you give it listen, skip the opening track. It’s length will scare you off. The real highlights are the first 3 tracks of Disc 2.
by Big McLargeHuge on Aug 20, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions
Correction
That last sentence. Make that last sentence all of disc 2.
by Big McLargeHuge on Aug 20, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
well
Andrew Bird, TV on the Radio, The Very Best, Sufjan Stevens, Akron/Family, Beirut, Ben Folds, Wilco, Blitzen Trapper, Fleet Foxes, Iron and Wine, Jose Gonzalez, and Spoon have all shown considerable wit and liveliness in their careers, whether long or short. As far as placing the blame on Kid A, haven’t all of Radiohead’s albums had considerable melancholy? From “Creep” to “Fake Plastic Trees” to “Lucky?” I think Kid A picked up the same themes, just with a different instrumentation and lyrical style to convey them. Also, just because an artist is frequently sad or reflective doesn’t mean they are completely withdrawn from irony, or humor in general (Elliott Smith, the saddest sack of them all, comes to mind).
If you want a take on what’s right with indie music today (which, I would contend, is an awful lot of things) pick up TV on the Radio’s discography. I always struggled to enjoy their earlier albums, because they were either too dark or too experimental. Then they came out with Dear Science, an extremely optimistic, witty, user-friendly album that they clearly enjoyed making. The promise of that album allowed me to give the rest of the band’s albums their fair chance, and it turns out that the incredible harmonies and ear for melody that characterized Dear Science were just as prevalent in Return to Cookie Mountain or OK Calculator. Meaning, in short, just give this shit a try, and don’t instinctively reject something because Pitchfork likes it.
Speaking of Pitchfork, darlings like Animal Collective, Deerhunter, and Grizzly Bear, are usually pretty boring. The music isn’t interesting enough to justify unimaginative lyrics, and the robo-delivery of most of the vocals, compounded with the music’s lack of hooks, doesn’t help matters. I’m generally very receptive to highly personal music (Arcade Fire’s Funeral, Neutral Milk Hotel come to mind) but just because these bands are supposed to be “reflective” or whatever doesn’t mean I’ll suspend disbelief and pretend they’re good. A number of indie’s headliners are, indeed, fucking boring, but they don’t speak for the whole club.
"They held somebody, but they sure didn't hold LaRon Landry."
I love Grizzly Bear's latest too. "Two Weeks" FTW
jeez, is it “Diss all music Jrlz loves day”? Is the Beach Boys’ Pet Sounds (favorite album ever) next?
Pet Sounds
Overrated. Clap clap clap clap clap!
So, apparently, yes. We’re standing on opposite ends of the spectrum. Let’s put it like this, I don’t want the beautiful bands, I like the dirty, ugly ones. Iggy Pop. Richard Hell. Every band on SST.
And do not speak ill of Let It Bleed.
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The Minutemen
Though it is like choosing your favorite child.
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A lot of people talk about Deerhunter . . .
. . . but they aren’t even the best band with that name. If there is one band that I can’t stop recommending to people, it is one called “The Dear Hunter”. Not to be mistaken with the aforementioned one.
I think this is their most famous song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc6fxV_vX5I&feature=related
But these two are my favorites:
by TheBobLoblawBlog on Aug 20, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Broad brush
I was actually painting with a very broad brush, if only to get new band suggestions. It’s a dirty trick, and one that seems to be working. I’m not saying all sad sack, mopey music is bad (for I, too, absolutely adore Elliot Smith’s whole catalog)… but I am sick of boring. And the band’s getting praised by the indie rock press are boring as hell. Mopey was a bad word to use. Robo-delivery was a great way to phrase it, and I shall steal it immediately.
I do love TV On the Radio and buy their CD’s as soon as they are released. Bloodthirsty Babes is still my favorite, but you can’t go wrong with any of them. I love em. Same with Arcade Fire, who put on one of the greatest shows I have ever had the privilege to witness.
I blame Kid A because I think it’s where Radiohead went off the rails and everyone’s been afraid to call them on it for fear of being accussed of “not getting it”. I get it, it just wasn’t very good. In Radiohead’s hands, the dadaist concept simply didn’t work and just irritated me (I still love the Bends). But the bands they have inspired to follow in their footsteps aren’t nearly as talented and made me revise my opinion of Kid A from “failed attempt” to “precursor to the worst trends in pop music”. Unfair? Maybe. It’s like blaming Pearl Jam for Bush. But I can’t help it.
But another problem is the failure of some bands to follow their promising debuts. I’m looking at you Clap Your Hands And Say Yeah and Arctic Monkeys. I also feel the whole idea that as soon as a band is halfway successful we must reject them is horrible for the music scene, so it’s nice to see someone pimping Muse.
What irked me most was a review encouraging one of the few bouncy bands to stop doing that. I feel overwhelmed by droney bands.
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Experimental
And to show I love crazy, out-there bands who push the envelope, so I’m not just hopelessly clinging to a stagnant past… Man Man. I love them so much.
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Album list
Sneaky sneaky. Let me shorten that for you then. The first two are similar to music you’ve listed. RyG is this crazy mixture of mariachi and metal with just acoustic instruments.
Blitzen Trapper – Wild Mountain Nation
Dr. Dog – Fate
Rodrigo y Gabriela – Rodrigo y Gabriela (new release on 9/1)
!!! – Myth Takes (most people prefer Louden Up Now, but this one has a more accessible feel to it, IMO)
LCD Soundsystem – Sound of Silver
Hot Chip – Made In The Dark
Ghostland Observatory – Delete.Delete.I.Eat.Meat
Umphrey’s McGee – 7/19/07 Start on Disc 2 first.
Dungen – Ta det Lungt (Tio Batar, ’07, is more recent, but I prefer the older)
Electronica:
Booka Shade – Movements
Justice – Cross
Daft Punk – Alive 2007
by Big McLargeHuge on Aug 20, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
So you're one of those Kid A Haters?
I discovered Kid A at a crawfish boil. No seriously.
Kid A was my starting point. When I first started really getting into music, I was looking for something really out there. I’m different, you see. It took me months to get into the Rolling Stones’ Let It Bleed, but mere moments to get into the CD that the red-headed drunk girl popped in to the LeBeau’s home theater. “Everything In Its Right Place”? It was gorgeous. Every electric piano note is perfect.
I’m not going to claim you don’t “get it”. Maybe you’re upset that it wasn’t OK Computer II.
I agree that the review you quoted is quite irksome. Indie critics suck.
OK Computer
Not really a fan of that one either, and I love the Oranges Band’s shot at Radiohead, OK Apartment
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Animal Collective
is awesome. Agree to disagree, but MPP has been on heavy rotation on my iPod. Just because it’s dense doesn’t mean it’s hookless.
by Jrlz on Aug 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I love a good somber song..
In fact, “good” and “somber” are the two adjectives I most like to use for songs. It’s why I like the eels so much. Of course, being “somber” isn’t enough. It also has to be “good”. That’s why I love “Things the Grandchildren Should Know” and many other eels songs.
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by Richard Pittman on Aug 20, 2009 7:47 PM CDT reply actions
eels
Blinking Lights is one of the greatest albums ever recorded. Big fan. So, its not the somber. It’s the boring.
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I like Blinking Lights a lot..
but I don’t think it’s one of the greatest ever recorded. In fact, I think it has a lot of filler in it and should have been reduced to a single-album rather than a double. I prefer “Shootenanny” and “Electro-shock Blues”.
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by Richard Pittman on Aug 20, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Ditto what Walter FTW said above...
Besides, it’s hard to take this seriously when you aren’t even referring to the right music festival.
I was at that show...
While I like to think that all of the bands were great (i put the event on btw)…I do agree with your choices as I lean toward the grittier indie rock sound…and am a huge fan of Obits and their ‘former selves’: Hot Snakes…as well as Drive Like Jehu
I think that most people in indie rock are followers…its like being a Dead fan when you’re in college…its safe and you feel part of a group. Not many people will put their neck on the line with an opinion on music unless its been verified by a larger group of said tastemakers.
Anyway…you already know the saying about opinions. So…do you really want to discover new music? If so, tune into Future Sounds on WOXY.com every Monday at 6pm EST. We play mostly unsigned artists that most people have not heard before. I think you’ll find a band or two you’ll like. (And listen to WOXY.com anyway…its the best of the independent online radio stations…) And you can go to the archives a listen to old shows…
Enjoy…
by LSU baseball 89 on Aug 20, 2009 9:45 PM CDT reply actions
Love new bands
It’s like a hobby at this point. there is nothing better than discovering a band. It’s so exciting and it’s so easy to miss a band when you’re a “grown up” because you’re so disconnected. At SXSW, I saw the Avett Brothers for the first time and my reaction was, “how do I not own all of their albums? Why was I not told about these guys?”
I’ll be logging on! Thanks!
And you did put on a great show. The free Pabst was excellent. Even if the bar ran out of it pretty quickly.
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On Point
You are correct, sir: indie rock sucks today. And I say this as the author of a book about indie, with a title borrowed from a Pavement album. It’s not that I’m just nostalgic for the 80s and 90s versions of indie rock, but that most of what I hear that gets slapped with the “indie” label these days is a snoozefest. Not to mention the lack of originality. Clint Conley from Mission of Burma told me a couple of years ago how much he thinks it’s not good on a meta level that so many bands sound like MOB these days. Maybe it’s just the accelerated rehashing of sounds, styles and so on we’re seeing in all of poplar culture these days, but I just can’t be bothered to check out a lot of new heavily hyped indie rock because I’m inevitably disappointed.
Slanted and Enchanted: The Evolution of Indie Culture on sale now! http://bit.ly/FJGGb
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Clint Conley
Tell him he is awesome.
And that the comeback was worth it just so they could release 2wice. And so I could finally see them.
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This Article Misses The Point - "Indie Rock" Isn't Disco
I totally understand where the author of this article is coming from, and yes, from some vantage point, Animal Collective are definitely over-rated, and no, I cannot make it through a Deerhoof record. The Hold Steady are OK, but there is a lot more independent rock music that is way better and doesn’t get half the attention (Lonely Forest, . When it comes down right to it, Animal Collective are not even indie rock. That would be talented bands with plenty of hooks like Interpol, Arctic Monkeys, Grand Archives, White Stripes, Arcade Fire, Built to Spill, The Shins, The Brakes, The Walkmen, and so on.
Pavement, although often tied to indie rock (which shows just how loose of a term it is, and is meant to be), are actually more correctly and famously tied to alternative rock. American Analog Set would also not really be seriously considered “rock” and their mellow, dreamy lofi sound is less likely to attract big crowds at a live show – their music is much better with headphones when you want to just mellow out.
The author’s cry that ‘indie rock sucks’ is premature and misinformed. One reason is because there is SO much indie rock that most people never hear that is actually really good music (I feature it on Indie Rock Cafe all the time). If you’re not convinced, email me and I will provide with with great, “modern indie rock” (again translation is fuzzy even to the top music writers in the world). It seems to me, all due respect, that the author thinks it’s cool nowadays to say ‘indie rock sucks’ without really thinking about what that statement really means. The examples given that indie rock sucks are pretty much weak – for the reasons already explained above – and shows either a lack of knowledge of the scope of indie rock or a general misunderstanding of what is and isn’t ‘rock’.
The fact is that ‘indie rock’ has become an umbrella term over the years. Bands like Iron & Wine and Fleet Foxes are not really indie rock, but they still get lumped into the ‘indie rock’ pool. There are so many genres of ‘indie rock’ nowadays – indie folk, indie pop, folk pop, garage rock, match rock, lofi, acoustic, indie psyche, etc.
Therefore, much of that music is not really ‘indie rock’, but probably more like just plain ‘indie’, but even then you run into problems because when does a band cease to be ‘indie’? No one agrees on what indie rock is – seriously, Google ‘what is indie rock’ and you’ll see. Are Modest Mouse and The Decemberists indie rock now that there are with a major label? Well, most people think so, and that’s how the major labels – which have targeted the ‘indie rock’ demographic and spun off ‘indie labels’ as shadow labels to increase sales and diversify (it’s smart on their part, right?).
You are also right that ‘indie rock’ is a thing to be popular and cool. Again, that’s how the larger music industry wants to keep it, especially since they know that no one Really agrees what is indie rock. If you were to view the bands and artists I’ve covered on Indie Rock Cafe over the years, there are many of them who would definitely fit the purist’s view of what ‘indie rock’ is – that is, many of them are truly independent with no label, no promotional apparatus, and tour (if they tour) with vans that they also sleep in.
And there are literally thousands of such musicians and bands that are truly ‘independent’ and make great rock music with great hooks (see the In Dee Mail series on IRC) – but most people will never hear of them. So are you really saying that indie rock is all about the ‘indie rock’ artists and bands that many people have heard of, rather then the more correct notion that they are the ones that few people have heard of. I won’t make another list right here, but there are so many I could sample songs for you all night and still not even skim the surface of what I know is great, modern ‘indie rock’.
If someone says that indie rock sucks, I would imagine they’ve heard a lot of “independent rock” and would cite examples. All the examples in the author’s argument are bands that most people who think they know indie rock have probably heard of. The bottom line is that ‘indie rock’ is too general a term to say it sucks – it means different things to different people. I can give you a list of 100 “modern indie rock” musicians and bands that I bet even indie rock enthusiasts will admit they haven’t heard of (or listen to) most of them.
There was only one time in music history, for the most part, when it was even close to comprehensive and cool to say a popular genre ‘sucks’ (Disco Sucks was cool to say in the 1970s because it was a very distinct sound and genre to be targeted and it made insecure “rockers” feel like they were part of a movement – as people feel with indie rock).
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And apparently people who would never read an LSU blog have filtered over to give their two cents. Which is awesome.
Honestly, I think the problem is the labeling of everything. I’m not that interested in trying to come up with the proper genre for Pavement. At the end of the day, everything is pop music: rap, rock, electronica, indie, whatever… it’s popular music. Trying to put everything in its proper category is part of the problem.
And, yes, it was too extreme to say indie rocks sucks. I haven’t really bought a lot of stuff this year, but in 2008, a small sample of bands releases I really enjoyed: The Young Knives, Tokyo Police Club, Wolf Parade, Eef Barzalay, Man Man, the Teenagers, Foals, Talib Kwali, Fuck Buttons, and probably my favorite release of the year, Frightened Rabbit. That’s off the top of my head. Hell, I even liked Kate Nash.
But I really am sick of boring, droning bands being praised to high heavens. It’s not indie rock which sucks, it is the indie rock press. I know its cliche to rip on Pitchfork, but my God. Are they morally opposed to happiness? And even some of the alternative sites, like cokemachineglow, I almost use as a guide on what not to buy. The bands the indie rock press keep pointing me towards, as a rule, bore the hell out of me. Quiet is not the new loud. Even if even Ian MacKaye has gone quiet.
Oh, and power pop is so awesome that I don’t even have the words.
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Clarification on who is and isn't 'indie rock'
I just wanted to clarify something I glazed over previously.
Modern indie rock doesn’t suck, you just need to dig a bit deeper – not only highlight the “popular” indie rock bands of today (Obits? Hmm). The Thermals are indie rock and damn good. Agree! Deerhoof is considered indie rock, but they’re a poor example to cite. American Analog Set are listed as indie rock in most places, but as I commented earlier, not really indie rock b/c they’re too mellow and experimental, in my opinion. Radiohead is also considered experimental rock and many would consider ‘too popular’ to be ‘indie rock’.
Pavement is widely considered ‘indie rock’ but there sound is much more lo-fi indie rock leaning towards pop. Wikipedia list Pavement – one of the best bands of 1990s for sure – as indie rock/lo fi and All Music Guide (allmusic.com) lists them as alternative pop/rock
Sonic Youth is NOT indie rock; they are alternative rock. All Music lists them primarily as ‘American Underground’ and alternative pop/rock.
Teenage Fanclub are not indie rock either; they are officially classified as alternative rock, although – and I love TFC – they fit into many sub genres like jangle rock, yet Wikipedia and All Music Guide list them alternative rock/pop. If TFC are anything ‘indie’ they are ‘indie pop’.
Animal Collective are not indie rock in the traditional sense – esp. nowadays – AC is listed as experimental rock on All Music Guide (really one of the most definitive music catalogs – if not THE most – ever) and indie rock/experimental on Wikipedia.
Big Star is definitely not indie rock – come on. They are listed in both All Music and Wikipedia as ‘power pop’ – an antidote to punk and disco of the time. Maybe they thought they became ‘indie rock’ after reuniting in the early 90s, but they’re hardly considered indie rock in the annuals of popular music history.
All of this, and the comments from others, proves one thing – no one is really sure what indie rock is. The modern indie rock – again, rock that is, for the most part, independent – I’ve been listening to over the years definitely does not signal that indie rock sucks.
Even more well known indie rock bands like Bishop Allen, Grizzly Bear, Cage The Elephant, The Dodos, Spoon, The Kooks, The Killers, My Bloody Valentine, and on and on, prove that indie rock of late doesn’t suck.
In the article “Why Indie Rock Sucks”, the band’s that were cited as the heroes of indie rock are not even considered indie rock with the possible exception of Pavement.
Just trying to keep it real.
Call it Indie or Alt -- It Still Sucks Right Now
Gotta agree with the OP, few artists are making consistently good music. And funny that ‘Spit on a Stranger’ came on while I was reading the post. While I am sucking up completely, Kid A bored me and ‘Test Pattern’ is pretty damn good.
But I can’t say that the Thermals are a great band. I do like a few more of their songs but they seem so locked into one sound. The beauty of Pavement (really Malkamus IMO) was that he was able to explore so many different sounds and perspectives and make them into songs that were distinctly his own.
Its hard to do this over a long period of time and few artists have done so over more than a few CD’s. (Big Star had how many?) My problem is that I use these great artists as a benchmark. So like the OP, I am pretty disappointed right now.
However, there is some nice music. I think Spoon, Eels and Modest Mouse have done some pretty good stuff. And like other posters suggested, there are bands like Ambulance LTD, TV on Radio, LCD Soundsystem, Cold War Kids, Oxford Collapse, and Iran have a few worthwhile nuggets.
Gotta enjoy these until the next genius comes around. Hope I am not to old to spot him when he shows up!
I am not so much of an old fart to say nothing good is out there currently
There are some good bands out there, but I usually find it way after it is germaine because I am older and dont get out as much. I don’t think bands tour the way they used to. Generally they just hit a couple festivals and call it a day. It was more accessable and that was part of its charm. While internet and modern communcation make it easier to find things, touring is no longer the way bands build fan bases.
The Thermals More Parts Per Milliion was great, but they don’t sound like they did on that album anymore.
This was a good thread, but once again Jrlz almost ruined it with talk of his gay IPod.
This was actually a good thread even though
Jrlz's suck is contagious
I mentioned Jrlz in that post, and then I posted a garbled half sentence. Proof positive that not only Jrlz sucks, but he sucks in a type of way that makes everyone around him suck. Terrible work as usual Jrlz.
Terribly dissapointing
Idiotheque and National Anthem are 2 of my favorite all time songs. You make me sad Poseur.
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