LSU 23 - Vandy 9: Snap Judgments
Big win tonight. I am reasonably pleased. My quick thoughts:
- Great job defense. Just outstanding. I can't say enough about how well this defense responded to a lot of criticism. They gave up really only one good drive, and then came up big again and again when the offense put them in bad spots in the second half.
- I'm upset that the announcers stole my thunder towards the end of the game by pointing out how quiet Patrick Peterson was. The announcers were right that "quiet" for Peterson means "great". He was locked one-on-one with a Vandy receiver on his side of the field all night and Vandy QB Larry Smith just didn't even challenge him. They seemed content just to run him out of the play.
- The whole defensive line played well. I know some naysayers will point to some nice plays Vandy made, but it's inevitable that a competent offense will make the occasional nice play. We stuffed them for no gain or short gains time and again, and we did a good job of getting off the field on 3rd down, as Vandy was 4 of 15 on 3rd down, and 1 of 2 on 4th down. On first viewing I can't single out any one defensive lineman, as Woods, Nevis, Alem, Lavar Edwards, Charles Alexander, and others made plays at one time or another.
- One of the new faces on the defense, Brandon Taylor, had a very good game, picking up an interception, making a couple nice tackles, and generally being competent.
- The defense saved the offense's bacon tonight. We had too many 3-and-outs, and more than one negative possession in the second half. Vandy had great field position for most of the 2nd half thanks to three consecutive possessions in which we ran a total of nine plays with two punts and a bad-snap safety.
- Speaking of the bad snap safety, the long snapper on punts is actually a scholarship player whose only role on the team, as a sophomore, is to be the punt snapper. It is doubtful that this is a wise use of a scholarship in any event, and he better be flawless the rest of the season.
- Jordan Jefferson's ATVSQBPI was 4.0. A big part of the problem was way too many completed passes that went for very short or negative yardage. Another problem was the offensive line play, which again was not up to snuff for long stretches. Jefferson was running for his life every time he dropped back to pass in those 3 bad possessions.
- Keiland Williams had a really great game, averaging 7.2 yards per carry with the game-clinching touchdown. Charles Scott is still trying to get it going, as he averaged only 3.8 yards per carry. He had some nice runs, but the blocking just wasn't there consistently.
- Great to see R.J. Jackson get so many touches, including one that led directly to a score that could have ended up being very important.
- We finally saw Russell Shepard, and while he was productive, hopefully his fumble will be a learning experience for him. I'm still waiting to see Reuben Randle touch the ball.
- Except for Trindon Holliday's fumble, the return game was really quite good tonight.
- I caught sight of Morris Claiborne in the game and making a tackle.
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by Richard Pittman on Sep 12, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions
Crappy Third Quarter Play Calling
On 5 consecutive series in the third and early 4th quarters we ran virtually identical plays on first and second down. Scott up the middle on first for no gain, a screen to LaFell or some attempt to run around end by going parallel to the line of scrimmage on second for no gain or a loss. Each time the result was 3rd and 10 (or more) placing Jefferson in an most risky situation as the defense knew we had to pass on third… Jefferson got sacked on two of those series. My point is verified by the fact that when we changed our attack on the scoring drive at 8 minutes in the 4th quarter, we were very productive and scored easily.
Also, our offensive line is not performing well enough at this point for Charles Scott to get through the line. He just is not quick enough. But Keiland Williams is. He consistently ran off tackle for 8 or more yards every time he got the chance. I don’t think Miles is managing his personnel very effectively, and since he wears a headset and knows what is being called, he is responsible ultimately for the sorry play calling we saw tonight that kept Vanderbilt in a game they should have lost by 3 or 4 touchdowns.
I don't like the playcalling..
but the OL play was the bigger problem there. When Jefferson tried to look down the field, the rush was right on top of him.
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by Richard Pittman on Sep 12, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The rush
Richard the rush was on top of him because we were 3rd and 10 and they knew we had to pass… and they sent the house.
If that's true..
the problem became that JJ couldn’t find the open man.
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by Richard Pittman on Sep 12, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Or didn't get into the right play.
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by Richard Pittman on Sep 12, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought it was funny...
when the commentators said something along the lines of “this is what vandy does, they don’t go away.”
As an Ole Miss fan, having Vandy as our annual SEC east “rival” is pretty damn annoying considering they should be a team that doesn’t worry you too much but they play you tight almost year in and year out (granted ill take them over Florida any day).
But I’m glad high profile SEC team (sure it’s an over rated LSU team, and before you yell at me, I’ll admit Ole Miss is over rated right now as well) got to experience this.
BTW, Charles Scott….13 carries for 50ish yards….is he going to breakthrough or what?
i herd u liek mudkipz?
At this point, Scott has been under achieving...
but I like what we’re getting from Williams.
Overall, I would say that we were OK, but not great. The Vandy of the 21st century may not compete for the conference title, but they can no longer be written off with the nonconference cream puffs we all schedule. Our tackling was bad early on, but improved, and I guess giving up only 7 points (on defense) is pretty nice. I think JJ very well could be on track to have a year similar to Snead’s 2008, but the O line has to get better to make that happen.
Interesting footnote:
LSU is currently the only team to have 2 wins over teams from the main 6 BCS conferences. (This is because only a handful of teams have played 2 games against team from the main 6, but still . . .)
Can't wait to hear Poseur's take on this..
The third quarter was pretty tense, but we really dominated the game overall.
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by Richard Pittman on Sep 13, 2009 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm back
Wet. Tired. A little poorer due to an ill-advised stop in Shreveport. I’ll have more tomorrow since I’m not clicking on all cylinders right now, but Monkey Poop beat me to the stat I wanted to post. I realized that fact while eating a beignet and reading the Advocate.
2-0 vs. BCS conference teams right now. No one else can say that.
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This is the kind of question...
I would normally ask on another site but I’ll try here first. Did I hear them say last night that the game next week would be on ESPNU again??? I upgraded my package with Dish Network for only $10 so I could watch last nights game. Really good deal IMO. This would be great!
Yes..
next week we’re on ESPNU again.
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by Richard Pittman on Sep 13, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Great Deal?
I’m already paying $60 a month for cable, plus $5 a month for the “extended sports” package – which apparently doesn’t include ESPNU. So excuse me if I don’t think having to pay another $10 a month to see the games I actually want to see is a “great deal”
by 4.0 Point Stance on Sep 13, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Playlist? Really?
We’re only 12 hours removed from LSU winning a home game against an SEC opponent, and this post has already been bumped off the opening screen by something called “Jrlz’s postgame playlist.”
With the goal of sounding as polite as possible, I’ll say that I think the idea of music videos from youtube taking precedence over a post about LSU Tiger football the day after a game is a questionable practice.
agreed.
I appreciate that Jrlz brings an on campus student perspective to the site and offers a more light-hearted approach, but I often find his posts don’t add much to the conversation about LSU athletics. With that said, just b/c I happen to not be a dedicated Jrlz reader, I can imagine that he might have a following that would be greatly disappointed if he didn’t provide regular contributions.
by Displaced Tiger on Sep 13, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, gotta disagree
This thread is still on the first page — I thought you meant it had been bumped to the second page.
Jrlz is hit or miss (on the whole I like him), but this place is about more than just analysis. Furthermore, his post didn’t really take precedence — this is obviously a more “important” thread. Scrolling down a few inches doesn’t take all that much effort.
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The O-line..
especially the interior O-line really needs to improve by the time we face the meat of our schedule. Some play action on first down wouldn’t hurt either.
We saw Shepard last night
and I was favorably impressed with his limited play (ecept one play). That being said, would not Randle enhance our play action? I don’t really expect him to play against the Ragin Cajuns, but it appears that we are being gradually introduced to the Tigers, 2009 edition.
What is Black's deal?
Ciron Black has been struggling this year. He has had several penalties, and he got beat a couple of times right off the snap on passing plays. Our line really needs to step it up, if they do that then we could be very good.
The defense played great. I was thinking the same thing about Peterson, and that is amazing, I don’t think I have ever seen a corner not get thrown at in a game. They literally didn’t throw to his man once.
Keiland Williams should be our feature back at this point, he needs more than 10 carries. If Scott picks it up, then we can go back to him, but we have to feed the hot hand.
Even though Jefferson only averaged about 5 yards per attempt, I don’t mind that too much, especially considering he was under heavy pressure much of the time. How many quarterbacks (just think of Lee) would just throw the ball up for grabs when they get under instant pressure? Jefferson just doesn’t make mistakes, at least not yet. That being said, we need to do a much better job of taking advantage of the matchups with our receivers and go deep more. RJ Jackson also had a good night.
Any news on the injuries to Nevis and Murphy? Murphy has been great on kickoff coverage so far this year, and I think I read on ESPN that he’s out at least 2 weeks with an undisclosed injury.
Nevis looked like a cramp from what I saw on TV..
I don’t know about murphy.
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by Richard Pittman on Sep 13, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow that sucks
out for the season :(
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