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Mississippi State Preview

We will be traveling to face a pretty well-tested team when we face Mississippi State on Saturday.  Though it is only the 4th week of the season, this will be Mississippi State's 3rd conference matchup, having already faced (and gotten pounded by) Auburn and having beaten Vandy.  

Unfortunately, this is another team I have not been able to see, because alas, they keep playing at the same time we play and the ESPN schedule, while it is making it easier to see LSU play, is not making it easy to see anyone else play unless I want to forego watching the Tigers.  Which I don't.  

Anyway, we are to the point where we can really start seeing trends develop in these games, statistically.  To look at Mississippi State, we are going to have to ignore their opening week game against Jackson State, or at least put it in context.  They rolled up a lot of yards and a lot of points, but it was against far weaker competition than against ULL.  Jackson State is a SWAC team, and they have followed up their drubbing by MSU with losses to Tennessee State and Grambling.  That game really was a glorified scrimmage.  In contrast, ULL entered their contest with us sitting at 2-0 and having beaten a Big 12 team, albeit one of the weaker ones.

Much more telling are their subsequent contests against Auburn and Vandy.  What do those games tell us?  Well, they beat Vandy in a more dominant fashion than we did, piling up 260 yards rushing and 341 total yards, compared to only 157 total yards for Vandy en route to winning 15-3.  However, their passing game was not very good.  If you think LSU lacks big play ability, check out MSU's combined QB statline against Vandy:  10 for 18, 81 yards, 0 touchdowns, 0 interceptions.

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Against Auburn, they were actually a little better passing the ball.  11 for 21, 131 yards, 1 touchdown, 2 interceptions.  OK, that's really not any better when you factor in the interceptions.  On the season, their longest pass play from scrimmage is 32 yards, which did not go for a touchdown.  Ours is 45 yards, and that one was limited by the presence of an end zone in Terrance Toliver's way, otherwise he would still be running.

Mississippi State lost to Auburn in a game that Auburn pretty much controlled from the end of the first half onward.  The Mississippi State defense which stoned Vandy gave up 589 yards of offense to Auburn, mostly on the ground.  Auburn rushed for 390 yards in that game, including Ben Tate's 157 yards, which was good enough to win ATVSSECOSPPOW honors for that week.

It's hard to get any sort of a read on Mississippi State's defense from these two games.  The fluctuations are just too wild.  I realize that Auburn is going to be a much better offensive team than Vandy this year, but there's no logical reason why even a good offense should get almost 5x the yardage that a bad offense should get, against the same defense.  One is forced to conclude that either the Vandy game or the Auburn game was anomalous for one reason or another.  The question is which one was anomalous?

What we can see is that despite the installation of Urban Meyer disciple Dan Mullen, Mississippi State is going to remain, for now, a grind it out team on offense, much like they have been for the last few decades.  Against Vandy and Auburn, the Bulldogs rushed 94 times compared to 39 passes.  That's a ratio almost unheard of in college football, where a team with a 50/50 split is probably running the ball more than average.  And keep in mind, that 2.5-to-1 ratio of runs to passes includes a game in which they were playing from behind the entire second half.

I really don't think the QB duo of Tyson Lee and Chris Relf are going to be able to pass on us.  They just don't have the QB skill or the quality receivers.  I don't expect Patrick Peterson to have his name called much again this week.  I expect them instead to challenge our front seven again and again by pounding Anthony Dixon and Christian Ducre at us.  They can even bring in a running QB Chris Relf, who is actually their second leading rusher both in carries and yards.

In the words of Yoda, stack the box we will.  Pass we shall dare you.

It is definitely time for our somewhat maligned defensive line (which I think has played pretty well) to really show that they can play.  This is a running game that can make noise.  If we hold the running game in check, we should be able to win handily.  If Mississippi State can run on us, it will be a difficult game.

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The question is which one was anomalous?

Probably both. They might have just gotten one of Auburn’s best offensive games and one of Vandy’s worst.

I would suspect, though, that these two Mississippi State defensive performances might be indicative of a better pass defense than a run defense. When Auburn got ahead, they could run at will. While I am not sure how Vandy responded when they got behind, I would assume that at some point they had to abandon (if only partly) their run game. That could be an explanation. Admittedly, I haven’t watched any of Miss State’s games either, so this is all just speculation.

by TheBobLoblawBlog on Sep 22, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Time of possession consideration
Against Vandy and Auburn, the Bulldogs rushed 94 times compared to 39 passes. That’s a ratio almost unheard of in college football, where a team with a 50/50 split is probably running the ball more than average. And keep in mind, that 2.5-to-1 ratio of runs to passes includes a game in which they were playing from behind the entire second half.

Consider how many times MSU runs the ball and how much time that burns. Auburn put up 500 yards plus while probably being dwarfed in time of possession. MSU’s better pass defense is probably a statistical anomoly because neither AU or Vandy have a strong passing game. I think ULL could beat MSU. LSU should dominate every phase of the game.

by NOPE on Sep 22, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Auburn's passing game..

is pretty good. Chris Todd’s ATVSQBPI is 9.3 and near the top of the conference. That’s despite playing against pretty decent competition, and despite the fact that he often leaves the game when Auburn is near the goal line, so his TD numbers could be even higher. Auburn just ran all over MSU in that game, but they also had something like 4 touchdown passes.

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by Richard Pittman on Sep 22, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Todd has went up against three of the worst FBS defenses

any team with any type of defense will shut him down with pressure.

by NOPE on Sep 22, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know.. MSU shut down Vandy.

Those defenses are among the worst in large part because Auburn ran over them.

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by Richard Pittman on Sep 22, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is a chicken or the egg type argument

3 games into the season, if the Auburn game was an exception to the rule the defenses would be ranked higher. MSU by and large is, but primarily due to Vandy’s inept offense. Auburn’s offense is not so great, and there QB is still questionable.

by NOPE on Sep 23, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not trying to take anything away from Auburn

I think they have average to below average personel at the skill positions playing an above average offensive scheme that no one in the league has tape on. I think as the season progresses we will see the offensive numbers Auburn is putting up start to normalize out

by NOPE on Sep 23, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree

Gus Malzahn is at a Mike Leach level of offensive genius. I’d actually rank him higher than Leach because his offenses can both run and pass with ease.

I think you are selling Malzahn short when you call his scheme “above average”. It is simply the best. I can’t wait for him to become a head coach and get the hell out of Auburn.

by LSU Jonno on Sep 23, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Malzahn has never won a championship at the college level

He apparently is a master of stuffing stats against mediocre competition.

by NOPE on Sep 23, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Football genius = overused cliche

Les Miles wins about 50 games in 5 years, yet he is a moron. Malzahn dusts off a Pop Warner wing t offense, and he is a genius while having three NFL running backs at Arkansas before he quit because Nutt was calling the plays. Everyone at Auburn thought Al Borges was a genius when he had cadillac, brown, and the rb for the Giants. I am glad Les is not a “genius”.

by NOPE on Sep 23, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

TIME OF POSSESSION G Poss. Time Avg/G
1. Alabama 3 99:23 33:07
2. Miss. State 3 98:08 32:42
3. Kentucky 2 63:53 31:56
4. South Carolina 3 94:36 31:32
5. Tennessee 3 91:57 30:39
6. LSU 3 91:30 30:30
7. Arkansas 2 58:32 29:16
8. Auburn 3 86:55 28:58
9. Florida 3 86:49 28:56
10. Ole Miss 2 56:53 28:26
11. Georgia 3 83:48 27:56
12. Vanderbilt 3 80:12 26:44

by NOPE on Sep 22, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Yoda

I don’t recall Yoda being a football fan. Another reason for me to like him.

by Gas_House_Gorillas on Sep 22, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

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