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I know it's early but from the way it looks

Auburn might have to go back to moaning about 2004

by KGslim on Nov 26, 2010 2:01 PM CST reply actions  

Oh, and totally good call against Fairly

No dout Auburn was warned that they were not going to put up with his crap so….

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 26, 2010 2:21 PM CST reply actions  

wrong

it wasn’t for slamming the qb to the ground. He was celebrating. And his celebration wasn’t even on par with how the Bama players had been acting in the same game, much less other unsportmanslike conduct.

by LSUJOSHUA on Nov 26, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the Refs were sending FAIRLY a message

and it was appropriate.

He has still been nasty in this game just not dirty.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 26, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Man, haters gonna hate

And the author or that Arkansas piece and the commentary are some hatin, triflin bitches.

by LSUJOSHUA on Nov 26, 2010 3:39 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

on another note

I would have been happy with Bama beating the living crap out of Auburn BUT

watching the sabanic gump herd drop a game they had a 24 point lead in might be just as good.

Don’t think it matters as I still believe the BFTB is for the SECW.

Mike Slive is about to put in work; watch what I tell you.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 26, 2010 5:03 PM CST reply actions  

I'm a little slow since all that turkey I just ate

BTFB? And what is Mike Slive about to do?

by cbkao on Nov 26, 2010 5:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

it means if the officiating is curious tomorrow, you'll know why

I must create my belief system lest I be enslaved by another - Thomas Paine

by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 26, 2010 6:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Take it back, I interpreted it differently.

I must create my belief system lest I be enslaved by another - Thomas Paine

by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 26, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Battle for the Boot??

Read my article on the Fan Posts for answer on Slive…

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 26, 2010 5:53 PM CST reply actions  

I'm calling BS on this.

First, there have been a lot of rumors going around the past few days of a super secret probation phone call (see what I did there?) to LSU from Slive saying “be prepared to play in the SECCG”…But all of that seems to be traced to a WWL radio show a couple days ago…I can’t find a single source for that rumor other than that radio show, and frankly I think that is kind of weak. Think about it, there is no way that kind of info wouldn’t have slipped out by now. Cajuns have loose tongues.

Next, let’s talk logistics. The SECCG is in 7 days. Auburn fans have hotels booked, have tickets paid for, and time-off requests in for work. LSU fans have the opposite of that, which is nothing. From an outsider’s perspective there has been zero new information in the Cam case since the UGA game TWO weeks ago. What I’m saying is, if the information that is currently in-hand was enough to keep AU from the SECCG, that announcement would have been made 7-10 days ago. The SEC wouldn’t have allowed AU fans to book hotels and buy tickets. Think about it, if an anouncement comes this weekend that a team other than AU will be representing the West in the SECCG, that gives people 4 days starting Monday to wade through the cluster F@CK of logistics to make it to the game. Aint happeneing.

And thirdly, exactly what kind of inside information are you claiming to have? I didn’t read anything in your post that lead me to believe you were doing anything besides regurgitating internet rumors. Do you have an inside source? If so, I get it you can’t tell us who, but at least say this isn’t an internet rumor.

I’ll be as happy as anyone if this is true, but so far I haven’t read or heard anything that would lead me to believe that this is even possible. I also haven’t heard ANYONE say, “I know a guy in the athletic department that has confirmed this”.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 26, 2010 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I will not say it will happen

I will not say it won’t happen. I will say Auburn’s OWN athletic website has a listing for a Compliance Director and that is FACT. Proof here

 I also know your new friends the Auburn fans at TET and at other websites all over have spouted from the beginning that Auburn’s Compliance Director would not let them play Cam if he was ineligible yet according to the post on the web site they have been looking for a new Compliance Director since November 4th. That same Compliance Director your friends the Auburn fans claim is so holy and would never do such a thing has not gone on record one way or the other if he is even still at Auburn on any site yet the Auburn faithful claim he told them and Auburn that Auburn was clear back in July/September/or November depending on which faction of fans you listen to.

There is not just SMOKE made up by Urban Meyer/UF/MSU/Dan Mullen/ESPN/New York Times/The entire world that is not Auburn like your friends want to claim. I call BS on their all in until the investigation is over. And it is a FACT multiple news agencies were told by their sources Auburn was told they play Cam at their Risk and that there is an eligibility issue with him …. Yet Auburn fans claim they have never been told Cam was not eligible. The NCAA does not tell you someone is ineligible they inform you there is an eligibility issue once Auburn was informed Auburn had to decide if it was worth the risk to play him. Just like UNC had to and Georgia and OSU last year and tons of other teams had to for years. The difference is those teams SAT the players in question even when the players later were found innocent and why? Because the NCAA does not hand slap when you do not sit someone they tell you has an eligibility issue.

Oh and Auburn’s last defense that if they did not know their clear. Ask the USC Trojans how that defense worked out.

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

by Bounc3r on Nov 26, 2010 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Did you read my article?

I didn’t say anything in my article about a super secret phone call; I laid out the interesting timing/statements regarding the Bruce Pearl suspension.

Slive made it clear that he has and will wield investigatory and disciplinary powers independent of the NCAA.

He then suspended Pearl for 8 SEC Games that will not be played for another 6 weeks, all while Tennessee is playing in the pre-season NIT.

Why not wait until that tournament was over and suspend him next week or six months ago when he admitted to his violations? No ‘new’ information came forward or became ‘known’.

What changed, IMO is that Slive is getting pressure from the SEC Presidents to act on what IS known, as they empowered him to do this past spring when they beefed up his authority in recruiting enforcement.

Therefore, he laid the ground work with Pearl and will have less explaining to do when he takes action on Cam/Auburn.

With that said, I do have a contact who works in the AD, who claims that LSU has tentative travel plans for next weekend and I have reasons to believe that the FB Program is operating under the assumption that tomorrow’s game might have greater implications.

It may or may not happen, but it is a very real possibility. IMO, it should happen. What is know in the Newton case is MORE than enough to disqualify him and I’d prefer the SEC not win a Title that they will have to immediately vacate due to cheating.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 26, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

SouthernMan....

I peek over at TET once a week to see what their latest defense is and LSU Jonno is all over their boards he has either fallen for their “we are family” and their “defenses” to the allegations or lets call a spade a spade he hopped on the Auburn bandwagon. So he just proved one of those are true by blaming you for posting part of another web sites article you found interesting which means he did not read it all only part and decided to defend the family like an Auburn fan

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

by Bounc3r on Nov 26, 2010 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

TET?

Me and Jonno have a long history of not quite being on the same page. He is a good dude but he’s tries to keep his expectations down.

By looking at this situation for what it is LSU is not too far from a shot at the big enchilada, which is inconceivable for Jonno and some other Tiger fans.

That’s cool, I get it but he should read the article before he criticizes (or miss-characterizes) my position.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 26, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Auburns Fan Site

Track Em Tigers

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

by Bounc3r on Nov 26, 2010 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoa whoa whoa...

First of all…

I also know your new friends the Auburn fans at TET and at other websites

and LSU Jonno is all over their boards he has either fallen for their "we are family" and their "defenses" to the allegations or lets call a spade a spade he hopped on the Auburn bandwagon

I live in the state of Alabama, which is the Mecca of college football. I follow Bama and Auburn because I love talking about college football to the fans here, and like to speak intelligently about the subject. Also, my wife is an Auburn fan, and therefore half of my family are AU fans so I’m happy for her when they win. If you misinterperet my rapport with the guys at TET for “hopping on the bandwagon” I can only assume you forget the “CL” in class when you interract with other fanbases. Not that I need to defend myself on this subject, because I don’t, but if you really want to know how I feel about Auburn, I’ll invite you to scroll down to the comments section of Poseur’s “Hate Post” on Auburn earlier this year.

Next, count me in the firm believer’s camp that AU has committed some kind of infraction this year. Is it as big as the conspiracy theories posted on TD.com? Probably not. Is it as small as the head-in-sand Aubies would like to believe? Probably not. But something is coming I’m sure, and it will likely cause AU to vacate their wins this year and return whatever hardware they’ve acquired.

But thirdly…Southernman, I did read your article. My point was, you never produced a “money quote” in your article like you just responded with:

With that said, I do have a contact who works in the AD, who claims that LSU has tentative travel plans for next weekend and I have reasons to believe that the FB Program is operating under the assumption that tomorrow’s game might have greater implications.
You’re article basically compared the AU situation to the UT situation (which I think is completely baseless so far, and that is another topic anyway) and mentions nothing of you having your own sources or if you’ve been reading too much TD.com. If I got giddy everytime I read a post about someone’s “source” that told them LSU would be playing in the SEC championship game I’d have to change my pants.

Besides… “The bomb” was supposed to drop about 34 times in the past 17 days and those “sources” have come up short every time. Even the Aubies have been claiming that they would be cleared “any day now” and that has failed to come through as well.

This site rarely strays into the rumor mill and when it does, it’s heavily caveated as such. I know it’s just a blog, and everyone is free to post whatever they want…But I think everyone who is a regular reader of this site knows that people such as Billy and yourself are somewhat connected with the University…So when you post something like you just posted, let’s just say I’m looking for it to come true…

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 26, 2010 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow classy of you to call me an ass

You pick two sentences of my posts to attack and then call me an ass? Sir you are the one going to another teams fan site to troll with them and be buddy buddy. Then you come here claiming SouthernMan is quoting his own inside information which means you did not read his post nor the article. You posted basically like an Auburn fan would half cocked with no ammunition to trash him for daring to post something negative about Auburn. That is how you came off and SouthernMan never once said in his post he anything it was a fact he only highlighted what the article, he referenced with a link, had in it which he had found interesting. He did not claim it was true or not. He left the link for people to read the article and decide. if i want to interact with other fans i do not go to their fan sites i do it at ESPN/SI or other media sites where i get a wider range of fans to discuss or debate with.

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

by Bounc3r on Nov 26, 2010 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

correction

said in his post he anything …. should be “said in his post he knew anything”

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

by Bounc3r on Nov 26, 2010 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude,

I’m not going to continue to argue about this. In fact this has nothing to do with you. I was responding to Southernman.

If you have a problem with me talking football with other team’s fans, that’s your problem. Not mine.

I’m only trying to point out that Southernman is KNOWN to have connections with the University, and for him to throw around hints that LSU may be playing for all the SEC marbles next week is a big deal. And just incase he wasn’t aware that it is a big deal, I wanted to make sure that he knew.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 26, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I am not arguing

I am still saying what happened you still seem to believe his fan post was all his beliefs which means you still have not read it and look more like a fool continually defending your stance. Or you are trying to keep your stance even though you read it and saw very clearly in bold that it said “Read the whole story here:” which means he was highlighting a story he found interesting. He never said “This is a bombshell” , “this is the proof” , “this is pure fact” or anything of the effect that might make anyone believe his connections he is KNOWN to have with the University say its true. And your coming here going off on him when you clearly did not read the whole post does come off like something an Auburn fan would do. I never said i had a problem with you going to other sites i was pointing out you are acting just like them which is a fact. You were clearly wrong and still will not admit it.

 If he is not allowed to read other sites articles and post them when he thinks something is interesting just because he is KNOWN to have University connections he might as well not post anything.

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

by Bounc3r on Nov 26, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude

Are you not aware that Southernman wrote that article on the bleacher report? Southernman IS Henry Ball.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 26, 2010 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually

No i did not. I really do not read Bleacher Report , neither do i read the other one tiggerdroppings you quoted and admittedly did not read this site often until recently. Either way it does not change how you came off to the readers of this site that are not in the “click” that you and obviously the guy below are in where you know people and can carry a valid argument from one site with their real name or a screen name to another where they have just a screen name , or even a different screen name. Either way calling me an ass for pointing out how you came across for attacking him was wrong.

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

by Bounc3r on Nov 27, 2010 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

OK

This never happened

Either way calling me an ass for pointing out how you came across for attacking him was wrong.
I said that if you are confusing how I speak to non-LSU football fans with “hopping on the bandwagon” then you must not have very much class with your interactions with other fans. That’s an assumption on my part, but if you are going to accuse me of name calling, I’m pretty sure you drew first blood in that department when you said
I peek over at TET once a week to see what their latest defense is and LSU Jonno is all over their boards he has either fallen for their "we are family" and their "defenses" to the allegations or lets call a spade a spade he hopped on the Auburn bandwagon. So he just proved one of those are true by blaming you for posting part of another web sites article you found interesting which means he did not read it all only part and decided to defend the family like an Auburn fan
I know more than a few people that would rather be called an ass than a bandwagon following Auburn fan…

I also don’t think I was “attacking” anyone in my first post. I clearly pointed out my skepticism of the scenario since similar claims have been made for 2 weeks without coming to fruition. Maybe “calling BS” was a strong term, but Southernman is a big boy and I think he can handle it. I wanted him to come right out and say that he had a source, instead of beating around the bush.

Nevertheless, I don’t think anyone intends for there to be a “click” on this site…But obviously if some of us have been around longer, well, we’ve been around the block together a few times. I’m not trying to exclude you from anything, but at the same time, I’m not sure why you felt the need jump into something that you clearly had no background in.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 27, 2010 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Do not change what you said
I can only assume you forget the "CL" in class when you interract with other fanbases.

that is clearly calling me an ass do not try to deny it.

Secondly yes it does come off just like i called it like you did not read his post here and were jumping him like an Auburn bandwagoner or Auburn fan would without having reading his whole post.

Third the “click” is in reference to the fact of what your friend below said about my time as a member here and yours. Followed by both of you resorting to name calling in your first retorts points to clickish behavior. IE. the way click’s put down others not in their click especially when they are not in the know about something. Sound familiar?

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

by Bounc3r on Nov 27, 2010 12:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Hopeless.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 27, 2010 12:42 AM CST up reply actions  

My wife and I both Very Much agree with this..........

I know more than a few people that would rather be called an ass than a bandwagon following Auburn fan…

by bcooper on Nov 27, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess I'm going to have to change my alias for Blogs; my anonymity is gone. :)

For the record Jonno, I don’t KNOW FOR SURE that Slive is going to act.

I am reading the tea leaves and what I have heard from inside the AD is tentative plans, which may just have been some uncertain forethought on LSU’s part.

I find the UT situation very curious because of timing – UT was in the NIT finals (which they won, btw) and what was known in the case has been known for some time. The NCAA is scheduled to issue a ruling sometime in the not too distant future and the SEC slate begins on January 8th I believe.

Why the sudden need to suspend the man for games a month from now for something he admitted to months ago?

Why not let them complete the tournament and drop the hammer on Monday?

Maybe there is another reason I am missing and maybe the other chatter is just that but I think the water is coming to boil and the tea leaves are about to make a hearty brew.

But that’s just me.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 27, 2010 2:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Bouncer. Shut up.

I usually disagree with Jonno, he’s generally too pessimistic for me. But he’s almost always logical, and doesn’t just start insulting people for the heck of it. You joined the site like 2 months ago, Jonno’s been here for two years. Don’t start bagging on him for talking on other blogs. What, are we not true LSU fans if we talk to other people now? Is this junior high? Are we not allowed to talk to other fans?

Speaking of being “clearly wrong” and not admitting it, you said “he was highlighting a story he found interesting.” Southernman wrote the story idiot. He didn’t just come across it on the internet.

by Ianoka on Nov 26, 2010 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

On to you

You call me junior high yet you and your “logical friend” resort to name calling and you even stoop to how long you have been at a site to mean you are more important. That is the definition of Junior High. Just like i answered to him i do not read Bleacher Report nor tiggerdroppings. I did not read this site often until in my opinion the articles were much better. You sir can take your “click” your “logical friend” and both of your junior high name calling and supposed seniority and shove it. This is a blog and i post what i see how i see it and calling him out was how i saw it and how i bet several others would too. I am just as entitled to my opinions as you are even if i am posting for my first time.

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

by Bounc3r on Nov 27, 2010 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Calm down everyone

We are all for lively debate, but let’s cut out the name calling. All of y’all are experienced regulars, you can disagree and still show respect. Just take a deep breath.

I mean, calling someone an auburn fan? That’s just language I cannot abide.

Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!

by Poseur on Nov 27, 2010 11:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Be careful folks,

You don’t want this guy serving as your personal Jiminy Cricket. I’ve seen the results, wasn’t pretty.

And he is correct, you shouldn’t toss insults like auburn-fanhood around lightly, that is a justifiable defense for assault in a courtroom.

by CounterAttack on Nov 27, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Push one guy down a flight of stairs and they never let you forget it

Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!

by Poseur on Nov 27, 2010 12:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Kind of scary that you were our positive influence back then. Pittman was better suited for the job, but he lacked your charisma*.

*Sorry Richard, no offense intended.

by CounterAttack on Nov 27, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm terribly sorry if I hurt any feelings

I just said shut up. You’re right, this is a blog and people can post what they want, so Jonno can post what he wants on an Auburn blog. I wasn’t trying to make some “click” or something (although seriously you sound like you were left out big time in junior high/high school), I was just pointing out that he’s been here forever, and he’s definitely an LSU fan, and not an “Auburn bandwagon fan” or whatever you said. I couldn’t care less how long people are here for, I DO care if they have logical opinions and if they’re too freaking sensitive.

by Ianoka on Nov 27, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Southernman

I love ya buddy, and if I’m wrong I’ll eat crow, but I’m going to have to be skeptical of this one too.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Nov 27, 2010 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll be the first to eat crow, and love every minute of it.

But at this point the logistics alone I think make this an impossibility.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 27, 2010 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I just really doubt

The SEC would be promoting the heck out of AU-SC if something were about to change regarding that match-up.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Nov 27, 2010 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Billy

I completely understand the skepticism but tell me when it will be convenient to deal with this situation?

Would it be easy to wait until after the season? Sure it would, and if the impact was only to Auburn then I’d buy that.

If I’m the president of LSU or Arkansas or any team in contention for the BCS or with a HT candidate I’d want the SEC to do its job. The SEC Presidents specifically gave Slive greater powers this past off-season precisely to clean up this type of behavior.

Now you think the SEC wants the type of reputation and black-eye that will come with knowingly allowing an ineligible cheat to win the HT and National Title. I don’t think so.

I could be totally wrong but I’m still of the opinion something is going to shake.

I will also say that Jonno makes an excellent point about the logistics, however, your point about the promotion of the SEC Championship Game – I haven’t seen it. I’ve seen no commercials, etc… Beyond ESPN promoting the games as currently structured, which is the only thing they can do.

Like I said, I’m reading the tea leaves and there ARE several signs that point to a back up plan for the SECCG but we’ll just have to see what happens in the next day or two.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 27, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I just really think

They’d be hyping it as the “SEC Championship Game” without emphasizing Auburn as a part of it.

And really, yeah it is easier to deal with in the offseason. Easier to let it play out and deal with the aftermath than shake things up. Ditto the Heisman (and I’m in the “better to give it and take it back than not give it and find out he’s innocent” camp).

But I think we’re all hoping you’re right.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Nov 27, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you talking about ESPN or the SEC's own campaign?

I haven’t seen ANY advertisement (other than Sports Center) for the game; that’s my point. I’m admittedly not in my normal surroundings (still in BigD) so maybe I’ve missed it, have you seen actual Ad Campaign stuff?

And I would be in the "better to give it and take it back than not give it and find out he’s innocent" camp if we didn’t have the confession of his father and the testimonial statements (as given to the FBI) of his co-conspirator and the targets of the bribery.

There may be a WHOLE lot more dirtiness to deal with but what is known right now disqualifies Newton, I can not therefore fathom that they are going to just sit back and let him win the biggest prizes in the sport KNOWING he/auburn will have to give it all back.

I will say though, that sitting here watching Gene Chizik being interviewed by Gameday makes me wonder…

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 27, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

If you go on the SEC's website

All the banner ads talk about Auburn vs. South Carolina.

As for the Heisman, the other thing with me is I feel like he’s clearly earned it on the field (though his eligibility is obviously in question), and without all this stuff he’d be a lock I think. So when its that pronounced of a difference, I say give it and take it back if need be.

But, again, that’s assuming eligibility, and there’s clearly some major questions there. But I doubt they get answered before the postseason ends.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Nov 27, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Well I agree IF

the SEC does not take action then he SHOULD be awarded the HT. There is NO question that he is the best player in CFB this year. (by a fairly wide margin)

Bottom line, the point of no return is approaching; I’d say it’s about 10:00am Monday Morning (if not Tomorrow Morning).

If it doesn’t happen by then I agree it will be in the off season.

If that happens be prepared for the ‘story’ to be that Slive intentionally sat on it so the SEC could win another BCS, which WILL bring voter repercussions in future seasons, IMHO

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 27, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

If this is true...
If that happens be prepared for the ‘story’ to be that Slive intentionally sat on it so the SEC could win another BCS, which WILL bring voter repercussions in future seasons, IMHO

The entire conference has huge problems.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 27, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

And that is the point

The SEC Presidents gave Slive additional powers to ‘clean up’ this sort of thing just a few months ago and now they are just sitting quietly by while the SEC allows itself to get the most public black eye in the history of CFB?

I doubt it.

I also doubt Slive is being motivated one way or the other by the ‘greed’ of another title but you and I both know that will be the story for a lot of people who are tired of the SEC kicking their tails.

If slive sits by the we are all ‘ALL In’ with the Auburn Family whether we want to be or not.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 27, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I am not

saying that this theory is true and that something will happen before the end of the season. I am agreeing with your point if what he says happens then the entire conference has problems. I just would like to point out some observations in mixed conference boards.

Other conferences fans have already started lumping all of the SEC in with Auburn and they have already started on other message boards saying all of the BCSNCG’s the SEC won is because the whole conference is dirty. And at this time the NCAA’s ruling has not come out and neither has the full Cam story. Why are other fans already starting to say the whole conference is dirty? Because there is more proof in what has been released so far then what the NCAA has used in other cases yet Auburn has not made Cam sit.

Taking that into account, lets say Auburn and Cam did not know what Cecil did and the NCAA still makes Cam ineligible and Auburn Vacates games even if not the whole season. Those fans saying the whole SEC is dirty are going to be vocal and will gain more on their side since most conferences fans do not like the SEC. Do you think the media is not going to use that to increase viewers or readers depending on what they sell, TV or paper , and to stir the pot which the media loves to do IE Boise State TCU and other non AQ’s that play weak schedules?

Now lets say Auburn is busted for more then just not knowing which is the same defense the Trojans tried. It would get even worse.

All because Auburn decided not to do what other colleges do with players every year when they get notified by the NCAA that a player has an eligibility issue. Auburn refused to sit Cam and see if the NCAA would reinstate him or not.

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

by Bounc3r on Nov 27, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

SoutherMan

One other point.

I think it is highly probably that the SEC has made contingency plans for the SECCG in case NEW information would have surfaced in the past two weeks. I think the point where we diverge is that I believe that nothing has changed in the past two weeks and therefore the contingency plans will not be executed.

Having said that, I have zero inside information. I’m purely speculating that as hot as this story is if there were particularly damning information out there, we’d already know about it.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 27, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

this site needs an edit feature

*probably = probable

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 27, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I concede (already had) that the contingency plans

may well be just uncertain forethought. Again, I’ve never put forward or put much stock in the super secret phone call theory.

I also agree that the window for implementing any contingency is rapidly closing.

BUT, you said “is if there were particularly damning information out there, we’d already know about it.”

We DO know MORE than enough to disqualify him and so does the Conference and NCAA. The NCAA in NO way cleared Cam to play as the Barns want you to believe. They simply have a process which Auburn has NOT followed, for which they will have to answer.

The SEC on the other hand has the means and power to act, even if for whatever reason they do not.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 27, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

The gloves were sick

Haha in fact if anyone can find them on the internet please let me know cause I’d love a pair

by Ianoka on Nov 26, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Loved them.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Nov 26, 2010 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

The helmets were kind of cool, the rest sucked, IMO

I must create my belief system lest I be enslaved by another - Thomas Paine

by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 26, 2010 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to admit

They’ve grown on men.

Especially the gloves. Would love to maybe see a version with old-gold pants.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Nov 27, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Boise State just shit the bed!

Nevada just put Bigheaded State University away in OT. If we take care of business tomorrow…………… Shades of 2007??

by carlizle84 on Nov 27, 2010 1:31 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Stupid cold weather

I’d just gotten in from the West Monroe-Jesuit (booo) game, and its so damned cold up here it made the urge to crawl in bed overpower my desire to watch that game.

God I’m getting old.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Nov 27, 2010 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think that one will matter in the end.

We need OU to lose the Civil War

or USCe (or Mike Slive) to lay the wood to War Cam Eagle

And of course we need to roast the piggies today!!!

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Nov 27, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

Nothing matters right now except beating the Cousin Sexing Swine from Little Rock.

by carlizle84 on Nov 27, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

They're actually from Fayetteville,

but they insist on playing a few of their games in an outdated high school sized stadium known as Waste Management, I mean War Memorial Stadium. I used to be puzzled at why they insist on doing this, when they have a first class (and larger) facility on a beautiful campus, but I understand that they are so paranoid about losing their monopoly over practically the entire state.

by artiger on Nov 27, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

follow the money

I guess I am like a CSI investigator when it comes to situations such as this… let me pose a hypothetical.
Let’s say AU wins the SECCG and goes on to the MNC.
Let’s say that the SEC schools collect the money they are due post the MNC.
Let’s also say that AU is later found to have played an ineligible player and has to vacate all or their games this season that Cam played.
Boom!
AU has no MNC (assuming they win the game anyway)
BOOM!
AU has a whole lot of other crap laid on their training table by the NCAA and whomever.
BUST!
Bet no SEC schools or the SEC itself has to give back ANY of the cash they got from AU being in the BCSCG.
Is that wrong to assume?

by FlaTiger on Nov 27, 2010 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

Sounds about right

to me. I’m not sure how much control the NCAA has over the bowl money (or the contracts that govern them), but I think the SEC would still get Auburn’s money to throw in the pool. Perhaps if the wood gets laid to Auburn then their portion isn’t so big this year, but the money must flow.

by CounterAttack on Nov 27, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Regarding the rumors of LSU playing for the SECC

In the history of college football, no player, no coach, no guru, compares with [Les] Miles’s masterful incorporation of applied chaos theory and time relativity into strategic game planning. Simply put, the man is on another level. A level many don’t or can’t understand. Genius.

by Gregatron on Nov 27, 2010 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

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