ESPN Says LSU Is Cheating, But Not Really

they brought in a sexual assault man

“Garrett is not a victim of oversigning per se, he’s a victim of the coaching staff thinking he’s not very good. A judgment that’s been, not to be overly harsh but here goes, borne out by the past season.”

Where are all those schools clamoring to sign this guy; I remember seeing he walked on at Ole Miss right? I wished him well and still do, but stop your whining and take advantage of your opportunity Chris.

My understanding was that garrett wasn’t “cut” but rather was “warned” that his performance wasn’t up to standards. Then Garrett left of his own accord.

If the piece was right that he was cut, then the whole thing was even more clumsy. Personally, I don’t think any player should be cut for poor play. Cutting a player for disciplinary problems is one thing. That’s on the player. If you give a scholarship to someone who is insufficiently good at football, that’s your own problem. You can be honest with him and tell him he’s not going to get on the field and invite him to transfer, but if be then chooses to take advantage of his free education at your institution, that’s his right.

The Porter thing was even more poorly handled. It’s one thing to offer someone a greyshirt, but it’s another to string him along until the eve of the season before giving him the news. If they had been upfront with him from the beginning, he’d probably be happily beginning his college career right now. Letting him go through a whole summer of workouts before letting him in on it was pretty poorly planned.

I don’t think it was done in bad faith, either in Garrett’s or Porter’s case, but was simply a matter of poor planning or poor communication, particularly in Porter’s case. It just seemed like Miles or whomever just did not consider the possibility that all those witness would qualify academically and got caught in a bad situation when thEy did.

Most scholarships, especially those given from specific endowments or company grants & the like have very specific requirements to meet including & not limited to things such as community service, character goals, etc. All sorts of scholarships can be revoked for any number of reasons which are listed in the scholarship generally.

For an athlete to act like they don’t know scholarships are one-year renewable contracts is disingenious at best & if there is any fraud whatsoever it’s on the part of the athlete to say they don’t know this.

Please, this is ESPN doing what media outlets do- creating a story running loose with the facts & actual non-legal issues & playing on people’s ignorance of those facts of scholarship agreements by using people with them somehow being “victims.”

Wow. That piece could have been done on any school that is good enough to recrute that many people. I would have to guess that is quite a few. It has to be herbstreet — he cant stand the SEC owns osu…lol.

Matt Flynn playing well for the Pack tonight—only the first half so far, but he is 11/18 143 yards and 2 TDs. Not a big fan of the Pack, but I’m happy for him.

…that are willing to acknowledge that oversigning involves some seriously questionable behaviors? Any that are willing to put concern for football wins aside for a second and genuinely consider that there might be some cause for concern here?

Instead of attacking anyone who suggests there is a problem, shouldn’t LSU fans be demanding that their coaches and school leaders put in serious restrictions on the ability to do anything that might be considered oversigning?

College football wins? Yea. Neato. WGAF if they come at the expense of a serious stain on the reputation of a university’s academics and ethics.

I’ve long been an SEC fan and defender of the conference, but this oversigning crap is disgusting and completely validates everything outsiders say about the conference.

First, my TOPS schollarship was not guaranteed. I had to make my grades. And if I lost it, they didn’t go and give it to some guy that was a senior who had been making good grades as of late. You work for a TOPS schollarship in high school. That’s where it was earned.

I don’t remember his name, but who was the overweight fullback who was suspended this year. If we decided to cut him because he can’t stay slim enough to play fullback, then that opens up opportunity for someone working their butt off to achieve their dream: a college schollarship. If you don’t allow us to replace someone like that, you deny more deserving student athletes of a college education and the opportunity to play sports. If the NCAA doesn’t want us to do this 1.) ban it and 2.) don’t wait so long to declare athletes eligible (see Alfy Hill Bama situation!).

This was a good response to the ESPN report.

It’s easy to paint Miles (although they could’ve taken situations at dozens of other schools as well) as the bad guy in this. but the coaches are acting within the rules put forth to them. still it can be a little douchy to take away a kid’s scholly.

i think people should consider the flipside and realize that if miles doesn’t cover his butt with the numbers we’d get threads and talk show phone calls lambasting him for having to play walk ons at a place like LSU.

no one would call or write and say bravo, coach miles, you did the right thing, it’s ok if we’re playing with two walk ons on the D line. they would ridicule him for not being able to count.

While I do think there is some questionable ethics behind oversigning (which, frankly, is not limited to LSU or the SEC and should be taken to the NCAA) the fact is that ESPN really missed it here.

This was, as you said, a hit piece, and any journalist worth his salt should be ashamed of this making it to the public.

This is no longer T-ball. Not everyone gets a turn. Thoes who are good enough keep their scholarships – Thoes who are not — sometimes don’t

To describe that as discusting and to say that this is only limited to the SEC is well … WOW. I strongly disagree.

To want to grant someone a FOUR YEAR scholarship? Seriously, if you think that’s a legitimate right, you’ve never gone to college. I’m sick & tired of many people in this country either thinking everything is a right they deserve or that they somehow are a victim b/c life comes up & bites them in the ass.

Listen, Chris Garrett & his apologists- Losing a scholarship to School A is the least of your worries. My dream of playing football died in November of my senior year of high school. I cried my ass off. But I got over it. Most of us have to deal with the crap sandwiches life constantly hands us & they come fast & thick after college, Garrett, so get used to it, you whining baby.

Chris Garrett is in such a bad place in his life…. maybe he’ll be lucky like Noel Devine & Deion Sanders will come mentor Garrett. Just imagine the travesty if he would’ve never played football again in college? HE WOULD’VE HAD TO GET ON WITH HIS EFFING LIFE LIKE THE GOD DAMN REST OF US. OH NOES! MAJOR REAL LIFE PWNAGE…..

/end rant

The one thing that really bothers me about the oversigning phenomenon is that it’s a total one-way street. The players should have more freedom for transferring.