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Link Gumbo 12/27/10 - Spending The Day Returning Toonces Merchandise

 




Hard to believe it but there are still 2 weeks until the Cotton Bowl. The fellas at I Am The 12th Man are celebrating one of their Aggies getting significant playing time off the bench for Dallas and keeping any eye on the ever growing list of OCs jumping ship in the Big 12.

/forwardtoCrowton

Speaking of the NFL, it was one helluva game for Dwayne Bowe, Glenn Dorsey, and all of the SEChiefs yesterday. And there is a pretty big game tonight for JACK HUNT and the guys on Canal St.

Because of that Monday Night game and an unexpected TV pickup by Cox Sports, tonight's Men's game against Southern will start at 6PM. Hotard at The Advoc had a piece on Sunday that lays out the team's situation pretty well, namely that we are still rebuilding and that things should be better in league play thanks to how disastrous the fall has been for the rest of the SEC West.

Need to get into a proper rage for being stuck at work this week? This conversation between Chick-fil-A Bowl president and CEO Gary Stokan and Scott Michaux from the Augusta Chronicle should have you seeing blood just a few paragraphs in.

It's hardly a surprise, but Patrick Peterson and Coach Miles were named the Louisiana Defensive Player and Coach of the year respectively, while Joseph Barksdale, Stevan Ridley, Drake Nevis, Kelvin Sheppard, Morris Claiborne, and the entire Special Teams unit made 1st team All-State.

The Indy Bowl (AF v GT) is tonight @ 5pm. Here is a excellent preview from Mountain West Connection. I'm sticking with the conference line and taking Air Force and AMERICA to win over the nerds from ATL.

The SEC will again be the last AQ conference to start bowling, beginning with Tenn. in the Music City on Thursday Night.

Not much else on a thankfully slow Christmas weekend. Anybody get any Toonces-clad merchandise from family and had that awkward moment where you were grateful but you knew you were never going to wear it? Yeah, me too...

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Toonces presnets

Open first present from girlfriends parents (Auburn Alumni): LSU hat with old school lettering…..freak out, many thanks, go into great detail how much i like the hat and how i hate the new lettering, GREAT detail

Open second present from Girlfriends parents: LSU tumbler cups with new logo.

::Remove foot from mouth::

by ryneaux on Dec 27, 2010 10:12 AM CST reply actions  

Strange thing...

… I like the new lettering. Toonces has gots to go, but the Geaux font is pretty slick.

Man, the Peach Bowl president’s arguments make me support a playoff even more. If that’s the defense of the BCS, then it has no defense.

Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!

by Poseur on Dec 27, 2010 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

Agree

love the Geaux font, hate Toonces. I refuse to buy/wear anything with Toonces on it.

by amiznit on Dec 27, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Read Wetzel's book

There is no logical defense possible for the BCS. It is purely a system designed to keep cronies that run bowls afloat. Even the bowl payouts Wetzel asserts, are nothing more than creative accounting b/c many bowls force the schools to purchase required ticket allotments &/or sponsorship agreements which cut into the payouts. So much so that many schools lose money by going to bowls.

According to Wetzel’s book Florida only banked 48k of the several million offered for winning the BCSCG in 09.

People often forget that bowl games were originally created as holiday travel marketing tools as an excuse to visit City A & nothing more. They were never designed to determine rewards for teams with certain records. That was only assumed by fans & the bowl committees let people believe that b/c once many people start realizing it’s all a sham to bilk schools out of money (esp. now when many schools face budget crunches), their days will begin to be numbered,

I must create my belief system lest I be enslaved by another - Thomas Paine

by Curtis Bleaux on Dec 28, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Let's be honest

I very much appreciated Stokan’s point of view. It was well reasoned but I’m sure it came across as insensitive to the egalitarian masses.
In who’s interest is it to have a playoff system? I mean who really gives a rat’s arse if LSU is demonstrated #7 in a playoff versus determined #10 in a BCS system? I don’t think the players benefit as much, as they risk injury and compromise their education. It’s really the observers’ who benefit, and its really all about ego and bragging rights, isn’t it? So you see, the disingenuousnous is found on both sides of the debate.
You can complain that the cronies are making money (true) and that the “system is designed to keep the sponsors that run bowls afloat” (very true), but someone has to pay the bills at the end of the day. Stokan’s point is that ticket sales wouldn’t support a potential four game streak. The current system is what the market will support.
And let’s be honest. College football is doomed anyway. It’s a luxury and a conceit. Between budget deficits and head injury, American’s need to wake up and smell the coffee./endrant. I’ll enjoy watching Tiger’s Football as long as possible but I"ve got a feeling it won’t be around for very long.

by tomsmail on Dec 28, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

The education argument is the biggest crock of sh1t

In an age where we have PDAs, laptops, smart phones, fax machines, etc. oh not to mention a month long championship basketball tournament DURING the semester (are basketball players smarter or do we care less about their education?), if you use the education/missing classes argument during a period when the vast majority of schools are out of session, it’s not only ingenious but also suspends reality.

Also, bragging rights are invariably what competition is all about, otherwise again, you have to suspend reality for the reasons why we all watch & or why people play in the 1st place.

Yes people have to pay the bills, that would be the sponsors. That’s why they’re called sponsors. To have a school buy a share of the sponsorship means the sponsor is only a part donor & not a sponsor. Also, you must’ve glossed over the part about sponsorship in the book. If somebody can’t pay a 200k sponsorship, hey maybe the bowl should take sponsors at 100k or 50k or whatever they can take. Like the book states “there’s a reason a truck stop sponsors the Humanitarian Bowl & not the Rose Bowl.”

Players risking injury is a reson not to have a playoff? What kind of pussy argument is that? So I guess we end spring ball & August camp too? Or even mid-week full pads practice. I mean, I’m not even sure why players even leave their apartment or go out on the weekends too, you risk death not just injury! OMG! Life is so scary!

So to answer in whose interest is the playoff system; it’s in three places- 1. the school who would make money by having on campus games (away game payouts would be similar to “rent-a-win” fees where traveling schools can make money since a playoff revenue would be increased b/c of tv contracts, etc. [I doubt you really read the book if you didn’t process all this information], 2. the fans of teams that make the playoffs, b/c that’s why we all watch in the first place [it doesn’t take a genius nor a scientific study to figure out as a team gets better more people become interested, so with a playoff, more interest would continue] & 3. the players, b/c nobody plays just to play, if you believe that you’re stuck in the 1950s or have never played at a high competitive level at any level [hell, going to “State” was why we played in high school]

Oh actually it serves 4, the 4th being competition itself since I guess you think it’s somehow disingenuous to want a playoff when there is a championship in every other NCAA sport in every division bar one- D-I football. Yes, a playoff in the crown jewel of NCAA’s governed sports is certainly preposterous, what was I thinking?!

Furthermore, saying college football is doomed isn’t honesty, it’s opinion. A disingenious one at that b/c at the very least it would end up as it originally started- non-scholarship players playing. But with ticket prices & tv money & conference & booster money being thrown around, it isn’t going anywhere any time soon. If something like college football is doomed, it means a whole lot of other stuff more important to the every day existence of this country are doomed, since there has been a huge influx of tv money from the likes of ESPN. Only big BCS bowls lose out with a playoff & even the former Rose Bowl CEO quoted in Wetzel’s book admitted the Rose Bowl would survive, just not attain the same level of profits they currently do.

And I’m sorry but your point about LSU coming out 7th in a playoff versus 10th in a BCS system is absurdly asinine. In a playoff system it would be determind on the field where there can be very little argument- you played, you ended up 7th. The playoff system put forth by Wetzel & others that use a 16-team playoff with 11 conference champions & 5 at-large bids (which could still use a similar formula to the BCS) would be way better than the heavy reliance on human polls. Like the book argues, the 5 at-large bids would be a debate about who’s the 2nd best team in a given conference not which 6th best team in a conference gets to go the NCAA basketball tournament. In a BCS system we may have finished 10th b/c well this year the formulas were heavy on records vs. OOC teams that have consecutive vowels in their mascot’s name. Or maybe the formula was heavy on # of times Lee Corso used them in the not so fast my friend punch line on Gameday. Point is, I would care a whole helluva lot more if you finish 7th in a playoff where you settel it on the field versus #10 in a manner where on field performance is couple with some kooky formula (wow, it’s like figure skating or diving voting or something! Yay!). So, a playoff would serve BCS conference AND mid-majors too since their champions would get an automatic invite too.

So, in conclusion, I highly doubt you read Wetzel’s book at all.

I must create my belief system lest I be enslaved by another - Thomas Paine

by Curtis Bleaux on Dec 28, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry for the flame to your post (though I think it's valid :) )...

but read Wetzel’s book. It just shows how preposterous the bowl system is vs. a playoff.

All playoff proponents like myself are arguing is have one like you have in your other 3 subdivisions of football. If it can be done in the other divisions & if you can have championships DURING the semester in other sports, you can certainly have one when most schools are NOT in session.

And college football will most certainly continue b/c if nothing else, politicians need sports like it for the bread & circus factor to continually try & distract from their ruining of people’s lives….

I must create my belief system lest I be enslaved by another - Thomas Paine

by Curtis Bleaux on Dec 28, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

understood the first part of this, but why

wont college football be around again?

"Is you is or is you ain't my constituency?"

by longboard8 on Dec 29, 2010 5:20 AM CST up reply actions  

B/c like most people falsely believe...

he’s under the assumption that college football programs get the majority of their funding from school budgets which are getting cut nationwide. This, of course, is inaccurate b/c at big-time CFB program schools the athletic department funding is predominantly self-funding or gets the bulk of their funding from boosters (such as Okie St. & T. Boone Pickens) & receives only a portion of their funding from school budgets.

In the case of LSU, their entire athletic department is self-funded & receives no funding from academic budgets whatsoever. I think they receive a pittance of funding from LSU’s general budget for building maintenance staff & the like but even that may possibly be funded by the AD and/or TAF.

And according to this article (& a friend of mine who works in the LSU AD) LSU & Nebraska are the only self-sufficient ADs:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2010-01-13-ncaa-athletics-funding-analysis_N.htm

Also, according to my buddy, LSU AD actually gives a good bit of money TO LSU, not the other way around. So take it for it’s worth…

I must create my belief system lest I be enslaved by another - Thomas Paine

by Curtis Bleaux on Dec 29, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

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"Relax, have a homebrew."

by CajunCavern on Dec 27, 2010 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

wow that video is gay.

And if you’re gay I think you will also realize it as such. I’m just homophobic. I’m trying to think of an analogy

"If I had a pony, I'd ride him on my boat.." Lyle Lovett

by longboard8 on Dec 28, 2010 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

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