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Baseballmageddon 2010 - Now that the dust has settled

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Alright, so maybe I overreacted (Hey, think how much it must suck to be Clemson this morning), but we lost a lot of what we needed last night.

Ranaudo going to the Red Sox is disappointing, but not unexpected. Remember that it was a surprise we got him back for this past season in the first place. After his stellar performance in the Cape Cod League, he convinced scouts he was over his injury and worth closer to the 1st round money he was hoping for. With super agent Boras in his corner, this deal was going to happen. Even with a less than great year, he was still one of the main reasons we had a NCAA postseason at all. We don't just lose a great starter, we lose a club house leader. Whoever steps up to fill that 2nd role has big shoes to fill (Just off the top of my head, I'm thinking Mahtook, but that's a discussion for later)

Zach Lee made the right decision. Taking 5 Mil+ now (by far the highest contract amount for an amateur the Dodgers have ever offered) rather than risking anytime playing college ball is really a no-brainier. He would need a great amount of luck to survive even a year of both unscathed, and if he showed promise at QB it might scare away the big bucks from baseball. I still think he was a greater loss for the baseball team, certainly a more immediate one. He could have been a midweek starter this spring, competing for a weekend spot by the time SEC play rolled around. No hard feelings though. By all accounts Lee was upfront with both the league and LSU through this whole process, and that's more maturity than we usually see from high-flight-risk high school recruits. It also says a lot about the draw and stature of our programs. To think, someone nearly turned down 5 MILLION DOLLARS because they thought playing at LSU was a better opportunity. It's certainly a reason to hold your head a little higher today.

Speaking of maturity, lets look at the other two big losses yesterday, and the very different ways each handled it. Garin Cecchini, a talented infielder and great base stealer, was up front with everyone that although he would have liked to go to LSU, he had a price that he would go pro for. The Redsox came close enough to that price for him to go, so he took their offer. On top of that, he dropped 20K into the Jimmy Fund straight from his bonus. The guy's a class act.

Lucas Leblanc, on the other hand, only days after telling the paper he was here to stay, just vanished yesterday morning and signed with Boston. I won't rag on him too bad as everyone has their price and it's hardly as bad as what Brody Colvin pulled last year. But to go to all the trouble to say he was staying and that he was done with negotiations only to sign so quickly afterward makes me think it was just a PR move to get Boston to give him what he wanted. It's a shrewd tactic, and a smart one, but it certainly burns any bridges he had down here.

Now, we still had a good class for baseball this year, we just lost the high profile guys from it. No one envy's Mainieri's job this morning, as he essentially begins recruiting again for the same class. We'll hear from him at a press conference later this morning. After the last few years, I'm sure he's had a backup plan since the draft day. I just hope he has enough time left to get them in and ready for next season.

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Smart?

Really? He burned bridges and only got a bonus of $500,000 (nothing to sneeze at, but not FU money). He could have gotten the same thing by being honest. It wasn’t smart, it was just lying. He could have been upfront like Cecchini, who was honest and also certainly got paid.

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by Poseur on Aug 17, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Juniors going pro

IMO, it is always a good thing to have a junior get enough money to warrant signing. By their 3rd year, most (especially Ranaudo) have done everything we could ask for the university and 3rd year cash is usually higher than 4th, due to the risk of not coming back. If I could choose, I would want the Redsox to not oversign the high school kids and go hard after the Juniors, but I know I simplify it a bit much.

I’m still bent out of shape about the process and the timing of this. I don’t like the way it’s handled by MLB. It all happens at the last second and too late in the year for colleges to deal with the results. I think that when the collective bargaining agreement expires, BIG changes must be made. The Red Sox proved that last night by dominating the draft because they had the money. A draft should benefit those who pick earlier, not those who can deal with signability factors. We need a hard slot and an earlier deadline. Personally, i view their process as very hostile towards college baseball and they need to step up and address that.

by Big McLargeHuge on Aug 17, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

problem is

MLB doesn’t trust college baseball. It’s some paranoia that all college coaches sacrifice kids’ arms to win games and that an education is over valued (why waste time in a class room when he could be training). Add to that the vast minor league farm system that they do trust and have complete control over, and there is no reason for them to give any concession to college ball. To them it’s an annoying tick, the one part of the sport they have no control over.

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by PodKATT on Aug 17, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Overpitching

Bertman was as guilty of this as any coach. It was an issue in his earlier years. And if a fanbase knows a coach is sacraficing arms or sees a trend of guys ruining their career by their senior year (ahem, Rice), it’s not something to ignore. But maybe I’m paranoid, too.

But more importantly, Changes Selig Will Support in 2011

“There’s no question in my mind, in 2011, certainly a [hard] slotting system and a worldwide draft are things we will be very aggressive in talking about,” Selig said
several players in leadership positions within the union have also lobbied publicly for a cap on bonuses for draftees, an indication the union may soften its traditional stance against any type of cap on players’ earnings

This could make the process much clearer. It would be a great thing for college baseball, I would think.

by Big McLargeHuge on Aug 17, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do see the overall point, but I think some may view it as a place where people who aren’t worth paying to play professionally can improve, like any other sport. Problem is that it’s all about how a kid projects and there is too much creativity in who can get offered how much. The system just doesn’t work for MLB or for College Baseball

by Big McLargeHuge on Aug 17, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

What really gets me

Is that after last year’s draft debacle, Manieri made a big deal about how he was only going to sign LSU guys who wanted to come here, and not rely on kids who were going pro. Then he gets burned just as bad this year. At some point it’s like, what can you do?

I agree MLB needs to seriously change the way drafting and signing is done. I don’t know how the hell they’re going to pull off a worldwide draft, but they need to.

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by 4.0 Point Stance on Aug 17, 2010 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

It's hard to figure out who, if anybody, is to blame in this situation

part of me thinks that the most appropriate villians in this situation are the kids since they are patently playing the schools off the pro teams for more money but that just sounds naive and ridiculous. I find it hard to jump on CPM for offering a kid who had the tools that would make pro teams offer a king’s ransom, particularly if the kid said he wanted to play at LSU. Even if Lee said that he would bolt for $5mil, i think you still offer him, since he is absolutely making it known to the MLB that it is going to take some record-breaking bonus to get him to skip college. The main problem with the current system is that there is no certainty for anybody which makes it exciting, but makes it hard to plan your roster.

This is little off-topic but kind of blending your comment about overpitching paranoia with some of the issues about signing high school kids, didn’t some of the sabermetric guys show statistically that drafting a pitcher out of high school in the first round was a waste of money and that the high school pitcher really benefited from time in college?

by haveagreatday on Aug 17, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think it's hard to accuse a 17 year old kid of manipulating a major league baseball team

The fault lies entirely in MLB. And in Moneyball they showed that, pound for pound, the absolute worst value draft picks were right handed high school pitchers. Of course, some do pan out. As a Giants fan, I now kind of have to hope Zach Lee doesn’t, which seems…. unseemly.

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by 4.0 Point Stance on Aug 17, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

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