Thoughts from the South Endzone - LSU 27, Vandy 3

I am not sold on Lee either, but I don’t see anything wrong w/ playing both of these guys in the next couple of games. Why does “subbing” them more like a normal player get frowned on? I get that qb isn’t a “normal” player, but I also am not sure we have one qb who can be the go to guy.

JJ was terrible tonight. He couldn’t make routine throws. Even his completions were not pretty. RR had to snag one or two of them over the middle.

I would love to see J lee do a couple of things in particular:

1.) have a play break down, him recognize it, and run for 4-5 yds decisively….even if he slides i am cool.

2.) see him check off and throw a ball away in a bad situation.

3.) complete a screen pass like a normal qb

Any of these things would give me confidence that he has matured as a qb…but in the past he has routinely been bad in all of these areas.

for double posting, meant to put this here, not the other thread…

I think this is the ceiling for Jefferson, and it’s not that high. I really wish we’d bring Lee back. This offense is broke, and thought the OL didn’t do much in run-blocking, the main problem was JJ throwing the ball. The touch for long ball is not there (to utilize our sick WRs) and neither is consistency on the short/medium throws.

I think benching Lee last year was a CYA move by Miles and Lee’s experience in 2008 would’ve paid dividends. I really feel like we’ve mishandled Lee’s career, and that our offense is never going to do much, other than the occasional big play explosion with JJ at the helm. Our D and special teams are sick, they’ll carry us so far, but this O will lose us some games if something doesn’t change. And I’m not sure it will with JJ.

I like him, I root for him, I want him to succeed. I just don’t think he’s the guy.

MIkeDeTiger – that’s pretty much exactly what I think.

Alange- JL got put in on the 2nd to last drive. That was a – let the backup play – not – play our other guy because the starter’s not cutting it. That’s really what we need.

JJ has a low ceiling. 200-250 at most ypg, an average per attempt of maybe 6.5 yards on a regular night and about 1 turnover (INT or fumble) per game. Plus he’s going to take off about 10 times when he should be looking to throw – and very rarely get decent yards doing it- and he’s going to take 3-5 sacks he shouldn’t.

JL has a much higher ceiling in terms of YPG, AVG per attempt, etc. – but clearly, also more potential to turn the ball over. The only way we’ll find out if he’s fixed his turnover problem is to play him.

At this point we know that we’ll have 5-7 drives per game go 3 and out b/c JJ will miss an easy throw or take a sack. How is it so much worse to have an extra turnover now and then with JL? His turnovers in 2008 were terrible – but he was a freshman – and while the picks were his fault – the fact that 50% of his picks went for pick sixes was just really really bad luck.

it seems to me that we’ve had the worst of possible worlds the last two seasons. we went through all the troubles of having a freshman QB in the SEC twice (I know JJ was a sophomore, but he was basically a RSFrosh) – without getting the benefit of the followup year. Now maybe JJ will turn it around the rest of the season and give us that benefit – but honestly, has anyone seen ANYTHING to make them think that is likely?

At least with JL I see touch on his passes and an ability to hit our fantastic receivers in stride and on the numbers. It just seems like all JJ will ever show is a little bit of running ability and passes that are behind receivers or too high or too low. He hardly ever gives our WR a chance to get yards after the catch because they have to slow down or turn to grab the ball.

If JL has made anything like a normal transition from a freshman to a junior, we could expect his INTs to go down pretty sharply. I think it’s probably worth that chance.

Did anyone here Miles’ post game radio report? Supposedly he said something about JL earning a chance to play – or something to that effect.