Dissecting Gary's Crowtons: The West Virginia Game
When you watch a game in real time, sometimes its hard to get a feel for what's going on. If you are like me, you spend half your time drowning in bourbon and the other half the time pondering how LSU is somehow about to lose a game they are already up by 45 or something. I'm certain that following LSU is horrendous for my health.
Not sure if any of you watched last night, but the second part of Ken Burns "The Tenth Inning" documentary about baseball, specifically the last decade (it was the latest edition to his fabulous series about baseball) ran. Anyway, this long time Red Sox beat writer told the story of the 2003 ALCS when Aaron Boone hit the homerun in the 11th inning of Game 7 to send the Yankees to the World Series. He was watching the game with his sons, who were 11 and 6 (I'm telling this from memory so give me a break if the details aren't perfect). He said after the homer he just hung his head thinking... "Again?" Before long his 11-year-old tugged on his shirt and said, "Dad I think you need to take care of Bobby" (I don't remember the 5-year-old's name). He looked down and saw his 5-year-old son bawling on the floor. At that moment he said, "Oh my... what have I done?"
Now, I'm not a father, and at this point in my life I hope to never have kids. They are great for others, but the moment really hit home with me. My wife is an adopted LSU fan. And I really realized that anyone I bring the joy of LSU football to... I also bring the misery of LSU football to. That's basically a long winded way of saying that it doesn't matter to me if we're 13-0 or 0-12, I will not boo, and I will not stop being a fan.
But who am I kidding, you didn't come here to read me waxing poetic about LSU fandom. This is meant to be a discussion about a handful of LSU's plays from Saturday, so let's take a look.
Overall, I think I'm getting a better feel for what Crowton is trying to accomplish each week (yes, believe it or not, I still believe he's actually trying to accomplish something). I mentioned briefly last week, our use of the option play. Watching JJ try to run it has been horrendous in the past, but he actually ran it quite well this week. Regardless, this is more about intentions that outcomes. The reason for the options runs is to spread the defense out. Part of any spread offensive coordinators line of thinking is to stretch the field vertically and horizontally. That's the basic idea. You want the defense to be forced to defend the entire field. Thus the reason the Percy Harvin jet sweep was such a integral part to Florida's offense (and thus the reason they weren't nearly as effective last season).
Now, I know everyone (including myself) hates when we run it. But it's just best to remember that it is accomplishing something. Miles said as much. So even when you see that play go for 1 yard... remember it's the intention, not the outcome. What I'm saying is that I see Gary trying to set up our later-game middle pounding by forcing the linebackers to space wider and safeties to shade a yard or two further outside by running it wide. He's trying to maximize our bang for our buck there. Now, why we don't do the reverse (get the LBs to clog to set up outside runs)... I'm not sure.
There was an impetus on play-action passing this game. On my first couple of watches I couldn't help but believe the game was totally mismanaged. After the third watch I felt a little better. JJ is taking the brunt of the criticism, but there were probably 8-10 plays that were entirely not on him, many of them ended up being drive killers. Overall, our offense as a whole (other than Stevan Ridley) performed at a very low level. That must get better.

I-Form, Twins
We experimented a bit with Ridley at FB in this game (like his TD run), and I like the idea. This play is the type of creative, simple design that is easy for JJ to execute and can deliver a good play. Ridley motioned slightly left out of the traditional I. This causes the LBers to shift to the strong side of the formation. We ran a play action fake to Blue while booting JJ off of it. Ridley, rather than coming forward like a tradition dive play (which was how it was blocked) came back across the formation into the flats. JJ rolled with him for an easy dump off. The LBers were caught in the trash after shifting over and the WRs did a good job of blocking up the guys in the secondary. JJ got it to Ridley and let him do the work... ended up in an 18-yard gain. Good Gary.

Shotgun, Trips
We ran a good bit of Trips in this game, with the receivers stacked as I depicted above. The above play ended up going for a six-yard loss, but I liked the idea. The execution left something to be desired. It's more or less a screen pass without the traditional screen style blocking. Shep remained in the backfield, imitating a guy picking up the blitzing linebacker. He chipped him and then rolled off, freeing himself up to catch a pass while the backer continued on to JJ. The angle makes it tough to see, but I think JJ gunned it a bit too hard. Shep was wide open obviously, so no reason for a hard throw... Jefferson needs to learn touch in these situation. But Shep didn't aid the cause by bobbling the ball and then losing his balance... he ended up stumbling to a six-yard loss. If he could have had a chance to get the ball in space and with good balance, it may have allowed for him to do his thing in the open field... alas, it turned ugly.

Shotgun, Twins
This is one of those times I want to strangle Gary. I LOVE this play... in concept. But why did we run it when we did? As a refresher, we ran this play in the 4th quarter with roughly 9 minutes to go in the game, fresh off another incomplete pass. Why, with a six-point lead, did we think it would be a good time to try and iron out some kinks in the passing game? Milk the damn clock, Gary. Even the color commentator was saying it. Instead, we run three straight passes, waste about 15 seconds of clock and punt. This is following three consecutive run plays, which amounted in a first down. Mind blowing.
All that said, I like the play itself. We motioned Shep across the formation out of Trips and put him back and left of the offensive line, often where we'll line up TEs. JJ play actions to Ridley who then settles into an open zone in the middle of the defense about five yards deep. Toliver runs a skinny post, and Randle runs a go. Shep runs a nice wheel route and ends up nicely fit between the underneath linebacker and the over the top corner in the zone. All JJ had to do was lay the ball in there (this is a throw he's made a thousand times in practice). He short armed it. Shep tried to stop and come back to it, but the throw was pitiful. Incomplete. Bad Gary.

Shotgun, Two TE (Big Set)
These final two plays are from the Jarrett Lee series. I include them both not necessarily because they were great or poor plays, but more to highlight how poorly Jarrett played (from my eye, which may not mean much). I'm not trying to pick on the kid, but with everyone calling for him to get a shot, after I rewatched his series about six times, I think I'm beginning to see why he doesn't get one.
This play was a super-simple zone/read option that JJ ran last weekend for a TD. On the play, the QB's decision is based entirely off the backside end. If the end crashes hard, the QB keeps and takes it outside. If the end plays contain, the QB sticks the ball in the back's guy and let's him take it. On this play, the end crashed hard, but Lee gave it to Ridley anyway. It went for about two yards. Now, perhaps the staff instructed him to fully give, but Lee still did "carry out" the fake by running around to the giant hole vacated by the defender crashing. Lee isn't much for running, but Peyton Manning could have gotten 7 yards on this play. It was a poor decision (again, if he wasn't specifically told to just hand it off). Regardless, why are we even running a play like that with Lee? Not his strong suit...

Shotgun, Trips, 4 Wide
This was Lee's 4th (and final) play, right after he previously completed what looked to be a first down, which was called back by holding. We ran this formation a good deal throughout the night, and it's basically a modified pistol look. DLO ran a simple out route, Shep ran a slant and go, Randle ran a fly pattern and TT ran the drag on the backside. The play design is fine. You hope DLO is available based off the space vacated by Randle going deep. The linebackers in the middle should get sucked into the slant and go, leaving Toliver as a nice checkdown for a short gain.
Well, that's basically what happened, with Toliver picking up five yards. Unfortunately, we needed 10. Even more unfortunately, Lee had at least three more seconds in the pocket, because the line absolutely did their job. He gave up on the developing routes, got anxious AND threw it behind TT. All in all, it was ugly. The color commentator mentioned that JJ did the same thing earlier in the night... and he's right, he did. This is a major problem. For the most part, our line is providing outstanding protection. The QBs have to trust their pocket, stand in there and make strong throws. Neither of them did so, and it's costing the offense dearly.
All in all, I thought Lee looked rough in his one series. Now, it's one series and Lee is a rhythm passer. Once he gets hot, he's rolling. It's impossible to judge a person off four plays. I'm sure Drew Brees has had a four-play stretch where he looked like Ryan Leaf. It happens. But this is also a reminder that there is a reason Jarrett Lee is Jordan Jefferson's backup.
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My first big game in Tiger Stadium ( not Tulane, ULL, etc) was against Georgia in 2008. First play of the game Lee drops back and throws a pick 6…. I have no confidence in Lee or Crowton. Vince young wasn’t an option QB but he could run the Zone Read.
I Kneel before ZOD!
Excellent analysis
Rec’d.
I am starting to think that something completely off the wall needs to be done with the offense. I am all for throwing RS out there for a two or three series a game and run a super simplified stripped down spread offense and tell Shep to do his best impression of Denard Robinson.
Gregatron is not responsible for any of the crap he just wrote.
Honestly..
The run game has been good… particularly when we zone block. Ridley has excellent vision/cutback ability. I would love to see us go forward just pounding the rock… in a variety of different looks. Let Shep take some snaps in Wildcat. Let Ware take some Wildcat. Let Ridley get 25 carries a game as a true tailback. Sprinkle in Murphy and Blue for some outside runs.
I know people think “once we play a good defense they will shut down our running game.” That’s not necessarily true. If you do it right, you can run on anybody. Anybody. But doing it right is more difficult than it seems.
LSU at least has something of an identity this year
Inside zone running — the issue is that the playcalling at times doesn’t seem to want to acknowledge that.
Paul, I really like this segment
I never played football, so I have very little idea of what’s going on, scheme wise. This weekly update of yours is really informative.
It seems like the general idea throughout your summary, this week and last week, is that 1) the plays are decent 2) the execution isn’t very good and 3) the timing of the play calling is very questionable.
That seems to reinforce the two primary criticisms of Crowton – that he 1) can’t develop QBs and 2) can’t call games consistently. Jefferson’s not developing at all, and Lee’s played so little in the last two years that we have no idea of how he has or has not developed.
FYI: I never check the rant, but happened to look tonight and someone there linked to your post. http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=21800514
Thanks....
I don’t profess to be any sort of a professional. It’s more of a passing hobby. I’ve spent some time reading/learning about a lot of it. This is a good place to learn some more complicated stuff.
As for Crowton, that’s pretty much what I’m seeing. The guy can generally design a play. I mean, I guess every OC’s plays work in theory, but Gary designs some real beauts. That play to Ridley, for instance, is great.
I think the biggest thing for me is when I see something live I think “Oh man, JJ sucks.” Then I go back and watch it three, four times and see other things that caused the play to fail.
Let’s be clear. Our WR play has not been good. I remember when Gary first came, one of the big things they talked about with his system was “option” routes. Basically, the receivers read the defense and change their route based on the coverage they are seeing. This means the QB has to also recognize the defense and realize his WR is going to change from pattern x to pattern y. I don’t think the receivers have done a great job of helping JJ out.
That said, JJ hasn’t played that well either. His throws are off the mark. Sometimes he has time and gets rid of it too fast. Sometimes he doesn’t have time and holds on to it too long. And the 2nd pick this week was abysmal.
My overarching point is… there’s a lot of things wrong with this offense. QB and WR play. RB blocking. Playcalling. It’s not just one thing with a simple solution (Bench the QB!). I don’t know if JJ is the answer. But I don’t know if Lee is either. A good offense is by recognizing what your strengths are and building from there. It doesn’t seem we have done that.
Meant to say..
You build a good offense by recognizing what your strengths are and building from there.
I don’t think Miles or GC are incompetent. I think they are pressing in the passing game right now to try and make it work. Maybe GC just isn’t a good teacher. Teaching is still a major part of the collegiate game.
Comebacks
I haven’t counted them up but I don’t think we run enough comeback routes. I can think of the one waggle type of play with the ~12 yard comeback that we roll out to that works very nicely, but I can’t think of any others. The way JJ likes to put mustard on the ball, a few twins packages with a go route over the top of a comeback might be a nice mix. Then again, maybe we are running them and I’m just not seeing them. /shrug
We ran a few comebacks this week..
Notably the James Wright drop.
Rueben ran a couple.
Hard for me to tell with production tape a lot because if it’s not the guy being thrown to… I can’t see the route completed.
Great read!
Hi Paul,
I don’t think I’ve commented on the board since I posted my dad’s passing last Oct.
but for someone who loves the Tigers and never played the game I really enjoy this column and wanted to let you know. I appreciate the effort and insight. I have my opinions
but mostly keep them to myself. I hope things get better with this offense soon as the games get more difficult. Let’s also hope you have some even more encouraging news after dissecting the plays next week. Peace.
Very nice
I usually only watch the games live and maybe once on replay, if that, and I tend to see things in generalities, such as “this particular unit was doing well” or “that unit wasn’t.” I’m not enough of an X’s and O’s guru to see all the action/intent behind a given play. So I really enjoy this column as well.
And at least sorting through it makes me feel a tad better that Crowton is not just smoking weed up there, and might instead be trying to actually Do Something. My question is, for all the brilliance of his system if were being run correctly, at what point does he acquiesce and look at the reality that no matter how good the theory is, the results aren’t there (for whatever reason)? If something is awesome, but we just can’t pull it off, then its Awesomeness isn’t really doing us any good. Is the smart thing to do to continue to hammer this square peg in a round hole until they “get it” or is the smart thing to go back to the drawing board and look for results over theoretical brilliance?
I mean, not that our opinion makes a hill of beans behind those closed doors, I’m just wondering what is the pulse on the rest of you fans.
My issue
is that Crowton/Miles don’t seem to match the plays to their personnel. JJ has challenges running the option; sweeps and outside pitches can spread the defense as well. Every time you’re in shotgun, motion Shep across the backfield. Blue has problems picking up the blitz; roll the QB out more to slow up the rush. JJ is struggling with a narrow lead in the 4th quarter; don’t call 3 straight pass plays.
This is what’s frustrating. It seems that he has certain calls he really likes and is determined that the team is going to learn to execute them whether it fits in their capabilities or not.
LSU - "...the defense you want to be and your girl wants to be with."
Agreed...
I don’t know why the Shep motion isn’t run 70% of the time. That’s a great way to keep the defense honest on the edges.
FWIW, we tried to roll the pocket once and Blue completely whiffed a block and it killed the play. JJ had to use his athleticism just to get it back to a zero gainer. That kind of thing is agonizing to watch.
this made me think of video games
Specifically, fighting games. If you’ve ever played a fighter with your friends you know that anybody can win with button mashing but the really cool moves are the ones that you actually have to learn. The downside is some of them are really complicated, take precise timing, or at the very least take a lot of practice.
When you stop playing the computer and invite a few friends over the first thing you always want to do is pull out the big guns and show them the most complicated wow-factor move. Unfortunately, you only actually do the move 25% of the time and in a live fire situation you end up getting punched in the face. A lot.
I’ve lost a lot of rounds being stubborn trying to land that one combo that takes them from 100-0 before they can get up. Whenever this happens, I ultimately either adapt to what will work or continue to lose.
Why can’t Crowton see it like this? His super mega combo move isn’t working no matter how sweet it should be. Adapt!
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That’s a great way to think of Crowton’s philosophy. From now on, I’ll think of this offense as the super mega combo move. Works great in practice and gets you punched in the face against a live opponent.
LSU - "...the defense you want to be and your girl wants to be with."
Pre-Game Prep
Paul, you sound like a guy who really calls it like it is and does your homework. I have a real problem with the pre-game coaching and prep for the game. I was at the Vandy game and the WVU game. In both games, JJ only looks at one receiver and the entire defense knows this, moves to that point and makes the play incredibly difficult. Numerous times during those two games, the backside receiver was so wide open Betty White could have completed the pass for a touchdown. GC needs to develop at least one plan with JJ that he continues to look at the WR then throws to the backside. It will take more than a few option runs to keep the defense spread and honest.

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