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The other CFN SEC bloggers and I weigh in on the off. coordinator hire.

over 1 year ago Tower_tiny Billy Gomila 6 comments 0 recs  | 

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Not a bad write up...

Couple of missed facts by the others… namely that “Kragthorpe never had offensive success” at Louisville… since his first year there, the offense was ranked 7th nationally. Not terrible though, as his time there was an abject failure.

From just about any level headed source I’ve read, Steve walked into a terrible situation. Comically, I saw a Louisville poster saying that Petrino “scared them into discipline” and Krags “tried to be buddy buddy.” From everything I’ve read, it’s quite the opposite. Petrino ran a loose ship and overlooked a lot… while Kragthorpe insisted upon more discipline. He booted multiple important players (this can be verified through simple google searches). And finally, he tried to make a transition from Petrino’s power spread to a pro style offense with semi-bare cupboard. Not to mention he was forced to take on staff members he didn’t choose. Not exactly an ideal situation for success to blossom.

One thing I’ve noticed about Kragthorpe… his national rankings weren’t blow you away amazing at A&M, but every stop along the way, he’s produced “the most prolific” something in school history (typically QBs). To me, that says something. The guy leaves things better than he found them.

by Paul Crewe on Jan 25, 2011 9:17 AM CST reply actions  

There's a reason

He was consistently getting promotions up until the Louisville gig. From a small school (North Texas I think) to BC working with Henning, to A&M as QB’s coach, to OC, to QB coach in the NFL, to head coach at Tulsa, to head coach at Louisville.

There’s a reason for that upward trend, just as there’s a reason things didn’t work out at Louisville.

It’s also worth noting that contrary to popular belief, he didn’t exactly inherit a loaded team. Sure there was Brohm and Harry Douglass on that first team, but it’s not like Petrino left him a treasure trove of big-time recruits. Louisville didn’t have a single top-25 recruiting class in that time period.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 25, 2011 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm taking a wait and see approach to this hire.

I really wanted Fuente, but oh well.

I was a pretty vocal critic of Crowton here, and I kind of think a potted plant would have been an improvement, so I’m certainly expect Kragthorpe to be better. But better isn’t necessarily good,

I do believe that some bad head coaches are very good, and even great coordinators. But I do not buy the argument that “he was a rising star in the coaching ranks before Louisville.” If we value the actions of others as good indication of a coach’s ability, then how can we explain the inexplicable willingness of various programs to hire Lane Kiffin?

In the history of college football, no player, no coach, no guru, compares with [Les] Miles’s masterful incorporation of applied chaos theory and time relativity into strategic game planning. Simply put, the man is on another level. A level many don’t or can’t understand. Genius.

by Gregatron on Jan 25, 2011 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

Well, a big difference with Kiffin

Is that Kragthorpe actually produced results on his climb up. His A&M offenses were improving, his one year as QB coach in Buffalo produced a pro-bowl season from Drew Bledsoe, and his Tulsa offenses improved each season.

The Laner’s career achievement is going 7-5 at USC.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 25, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

QB development...

How much improvement can we reasonable expect in our qbs (JJ and JL)? Is it even fair to expect solid results w/ two players who have been through so much and now have one spring w/ a new “savior” OC?

I hope Met comes in and makes the whole qb controversy go away.

by Zandor435 on Jan 25, 2011 9:50 PM CST reply actions  

I don't care who makes it go away

But one QB definitely needs to step up and definitively take control of the job.

by Ianoka on Jan 26, 2011 2:55 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

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