Initial Impression: LSU 35, Kentucky 7
by Poseur on Oct 1, 2011 3:59 PM CDT
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Another game, another blowout win.
It's hard to say that this game was interesting at any point from a football standpoint. LSU didn't quite blow Kentucky away, but more slowly and methodically asserted its dominance over an overmatched foe. There was never a point in this game that the final result was in doubt: a big win for LSU.
Kentucky's offensive strategy seemed to be avoid the big play. Which worked, I guess, for most of the game. Kentucky steadfastly refused to open up the offense and risk a turnover, and barely gained any yards. By the third quarter, UK slightly opened things up, and LSU got a big play and scored a defensive touchdown.
Yeah, that Tyrann Mathieu guy is pretty good.
LSU dominated this game every way a team can dominate the game, and they did so without opening the playbook or even relying on the biggest names. Spencer Ware spent most of the game on the bench. Reuben Randle caught only one pass. This was not a game in which LSU slung it all over the place. The team was so vanilla that you'd think it was auditioning for the cast of Friends.
Jordan Jefferson made his first appearance of the season and played well in limited action. He scored a touchdown, and rushed for 29 yards on 4 carries. He also did noting to unseat Jarrett Lee as a starting quarterback. In fact, after Jefferson had a few successful running plays, Miles put Lee right back in the game to complete the drive. It was like asserting that Lee is the starter.
Lee didn't have his best game as a starter, though. He consistently threw off his back foot and delivered the ball extremely high. Occasionally, a receiver would climb the ladder to bail out their QB, but not with any regularity. Lee didn't play poorly, but he didn't exactly play well either. He was just off target for the entire day.
Still, even with the drops, Lee was able to pull out a few big plays, most notably to ODB and Randle, and posted an ATVSQBPI of 9.00 on the game. He didn't complete a lot of passes, but the ones he did complete were for big yards. All in all, he did exactly what you want your starter to do, he took advantage of his opportunities and put this game away.
It was a big win over a completely outmatched foe. Precisely what you want, as Kentucky never put up a threat, and didn't score until late in the fourth quarter, aided by a questionable pass interference call. LSU isn't trying to win style points - Miles is just trying to get through with an eye towards the showdown with Florida next week. Mission accomplished.
The less said about the boo birds, the better, but I'd be remiss if I didn't mention it. Those of you who booed Jefferson are absolute morons. Don't justify it. You are a moron.
LSU is 5-0 and Jarrett Lee is the starter. Deal with it.
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The less said about the boo birds, the better
Actually, I think these idiots are going to cause LSU players to HATE LSU fans and it’s not going to lead to great things and happy endings.
The tweets today from T-Bob, HB7, RR and several others say they have had it and are going to stick up for ALL their teammates no matter what the fans think.
“Fans” need to STHU and be “fans” and let the coaches be coaches while the players play and the Honey Badger eats.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
What are the tweets?
Don’t have a Twitter account…
Congratulations, Tiger fans.
Noble victory, well earned. Good luck on the rest of the season.
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Unfulfilling If Not Disappointing
I was watching the thing on ESPN3.com, so I missed the boos, and it’s just as well, because I was shocked enough when I heard the cheers when Les put Lee back in on the 3rd & 8 or whatever it was. Who are these people? . I was disappointed that Les didn’t let JJ try to complete that series. I really wanted to see him throw the ball to see what magic Kragthorpe had worked with him that earned him the starting job going into the season. If JJ’s improvement was equal to Lee’s improvement, it ought to be a sight to see.
I thought Lee was closer to the old Jarrett Lee today than any time previously this season. A lot of the “drops” were bad passes. The “non-interception” play would have been a TD had the throw been worth a damn (IMO, KY got hosed on that play). The only really good pass I saw was on the out route to Peterson. No room for error & he nailed it. The rest of the time, however, he seems to have reverted to throwing off his back foot. I have also realized this season after watching him take enough reps that he is clearly petrified of contact. After every pass when the D is anywhere close to making contact with him he reflexively finishes his motion turning as if to run away from contact. It’s different than merely throwing off his back foot, and although distinct from his throwing motion, it has become so automatic that it looks as if it’s becoming part of his throwing motion.
I don’t want to start up this JJ v JL debate again. I’m happy with the way JL has improved and played, but I couldn’t help but think today on JJ’s running plays how JL could never have done that. And hell, after the way Lee was passing today, I can’t imagine JJ would have thrown worse. Really disappointed that we didn’t get to see it.
I also couldn’t help but think the whole time JL was throwing poorly and the 2 occasions that Ford got dropped for losses when JJ was in the game that the mystery poster from a couple of days ago was sitting at home saying “I told you so! I told you JJ would be a cancer on this team! I told you his presence would make JL play ’tight..” Where is that guy today?
He's probably currently
working up the internet courage preaching to his choir over at that board-that-shall-not-be-named.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno
I’m kind of against bashing cmmc11 and others who think like him. I completely disagree with many things he said this week for multiple reasons but people are entitled to their opinions. Some things are despicable like booing college kids but we don’t know who did and who didn’t. I used to yell at my tv every short side option, even when they worked. I like to think I’d never boo anyone but a ref or an unsportsmanlike play by an opposing player or coach but sometimes I got so frustrated I don’t know for sure that I’d keep my cool when everyone around me was booing too.
Just saying, sometimes rational people do irrational things and they’re not always bad people at heart.
But I’m not excusing what I heard today. I was shocked that people booed before he’d even had a chance to play. In a country where Vick gets a shot at redemption JJ had damn well better get one too
by ORtigerfan on Oct 1, 2011 8:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The only problem with him (cmmc11) was the sheer volume of the same comments...
JJ is a cancer—no quotes, no examples, no anything when responded to, JJ will bitch and whine and will not accept new role, ect.—again no anything just his opinion and that is fine, but after a while like 30 comments in lol, give it a rest. We know you don’t like JJ and what you think. In the end that line of commenting ends up being annoying as can be and unproductive.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Now Let's All Hope . . .
. . . Florida takes out ‘Bama tonight but gets good & dinged up in the process (nothing serious, just enough to give us added advantage next week). One of the Tide’s starting LBs – supposedly the fastest and best in coverage – is out tonight. Could spell trouble for the Tide with Demps & Rainey on the other side of the ball.
"Get's good and dinged up"
Got your wish and then some.
But the emphasis was on taking 'Bama Down.
No such luck.
Less said about the boo birds
Not as far as I’m concerned. Would anybody like to try and talk me down before I go off on that in my recap? One of the more embarrassing moments of my life as an LSU fan.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Please go off,
Total embarrassment! And totally inexcusable.
by Displaced Tiger on Oct 1, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, go off, please. Not so much here b/c most everybody here is sane
But this needs to be addressed. The “cancer” is that section of the fan base that for whatever real reason, & I’ll just leave it at that, hates JJ like he gleefully murdered somebody.
Boo JJ? Ok, then you have to boo Brad Wing, Boo Mettenberger gropey hands, and all the 50 or so players that broke curfew. Boo Josh Johns. If you single out JJ you’re a fucking idiot.
So, please Billy, go off. You definitely have my backing on this.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Drop the bomb on em, Billy
Nothing is going to please these people that will boo a 20 year old kid that’s on a 5-0, ranked #1 team, and who IS NOT THE STARTING QB. Maybe it’s just me, but I think that the people who boo JJ are mostly the same people who still hate CLM because he is not Nick Saban, and never will be. I think they see JJ as CLM’s “choosen son”, and if JJ and JL’s roles were reversed, they would boo JL and want JJ in the game. Why do the fans who effing suck go to the game just to boo and bitch and moan about EVERYTHING CLM or JJ does. It’s never good enough. These people obviously don’t remember the Hallman/Archer/DeNardo days. I hope Coach Miles comes out and says either support this team or GTFO, but he’s too classy a person to do something like that, so I guess we will have to deal with this jackassery for the foreseeable future. The only silver lining I can possibly see coming from this is the team pulling together even more, and having an “us against the world and the ignorant part of our fanbase” attitude.
These are also the same kind of ppl that berate kids
at Little League games
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
NO, Not Really
Little League parents are the worst (swim team parents 2nd).
I heard someone say that most of the boos were students. Don’t know it it’s true, but if it had to happen, I’d like to at least be able to claim that it was a relative handful of drunken kids and not the “adult” fans.
I read that Les told a reporter that he didn’t talk to JJ about the boos because he figured he was tough enough to take boos from some small group of people who would boo anything and anyone (or words to that effect; maybe he referred to them as a group “who has a tremendous want to boo”)
Ok, fair enough then
I hadnt heard or missed that it may have been the students.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I've seen swim team parents
They are pretty bad.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
the people that bood JJ
also bood Lee the last couple of years.
And today Lee played like crap, to be honest
But I damn sure never thought about booing him.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
I remember thinking
that very same thing when I was sitting in the stands. If you’re gonna boo someone, boo fucking CBS for cutting into my drinking time and giving 90,000 people sunburns. Yes, i’m a student, and I can’t speak for everyone, but I think the booing was grossly overstated. It was just a few idiots, not the whole stadium.
"Tiger Stadium is by far the worst place to play for a visiting team. It's like being inside a drum." - Paul "Bear" Bryant
by Chinese Bandit on Oct 1, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
It's easily explainable
they’re SEASON TICKET HOLDERS ;-)
JUSTICE FOR JORDAN!!
Not all season ticket holders are asses
I happen to be one, and our section never boos the kids. Refs, sure, but not the kids.
No slight intended, it was a play on a Spencer Hall (EveryDayShouldBeSaturday)
SB Nation post about his trip to the LSU/WVU game. There was a real a-hole seated by him that justified all of his actions by loudly proclaiming “I’m a season ticket holder!”. Sorry for the confusion.
JUSTICE FOR JORDAN!!
by andyj on Oct 2, 2011 3:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That is an astute observation.
I think the simplistic hushed race card answer is a cop out. Hell I was wondering why he came in the game after Lee drove them down. But booing JJ is just juvinille. I can’t speak for the nimrods as I really hate booing fans, but sounded like there was a follow up cheer. Hopefully the team gets the that the haters are just a minority group.
I hope the players raise hell about it an embarrasses the crap out of those people. Rip the band aid off and let’s move fwd.
"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles
by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Oct 1, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
There wasn't a follow up cheer
Some people cheered (I know I did), but a chunk were still booing.
And it’s not even about race (though to pretend that it’s not involved would be naive), its about idiocy and ignorance. People don’t like Jefferson because they don’t think he’s a good player. Period. They dress it up with other BS, but that’s the crux of it. To dismiss it because we don’t want to hear about race would be every bit as misguided as to say that race is all its about.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Everybody wanted JJ to play when Lee was struggling in 08
that’s just the way people are. Shit happens everywhere. It’s counter productive, and in this case particularly unwarranted. JJ was more than adequately punished for whatever he did, and now he’s trying to help the team win. If he plays well (and I think he will), the problem will go away. Otherwise, it won’t. I wish you could talk to the fanbase and explain why it’s stupid, but there’s really no hope for that.
You have been mad and drunken, furious and wild, filled with hatred and despair...but so have we - Thomas Wolfe, inadvertently commenting on college football.
NO
The coach’s decision was to put the player in. The booing was the player. That is not only a stupid cop-out, it’s a cowardly one.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
The whole "we weren't booing the player, we were booing the decision"
Cop-out is a complete, and total, load of bullshit. Period.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
I never said YOU did anything
I said the your notion was bullshit.
YOU need to put on your reading glasses.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
if you can say people were booing because of JJ’s skin color, then I can say some were booing Miles’ decision to put him in(which makes a hell of a lot more sense).
You can say it
It’s just a complete cop out and load of shit. They wouldn’t have been booing if he’d stuck Mettenberger in for that sneak.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
That's crap. Putting Met in would boo worthy, but still wrong.
"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles
by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Oct 1, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
No, it's not.
It’s the cold, hard, truth. The booing was about Jefferson. Period.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
yeah, doubt that billy
look, i think the booing was out of line. But pulling your starting QB for a sub on the one line is going to get you some boos no matter what. It did last year.
nah. you're wrong here billy
I think the booing was terrible. But it’s not irrational for some fans to think, “I like JJ, but I hate the decision to put him in here – and I’m going to boo.” I doubt very many of the booers actually thought this, but some might have.
Nope
People can tell themselves what they want. You boo the decision to put a player in, you’re booing the player. People who say this are just trying to make themselves feel better. It’s a cop-out and its a load of crap.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Oct 1, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
tell that to millions of fans
that do it at the college and professional level. i think it’s a bad idea to boo, and particujlarly poor form in college- but it’s not irrational or always directed at the player. and it’s not a cop out.
by GeauxTiger on Oct 1, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
GT
If you boo a “decision” to put in a player, you’re booing a player. Booing a playcall is booing a decision, like if a coach kicks a field goal or punts when you think he should go for it.
People booed Jordan Jefferson for coming in to take a quarterback sneak because it was Jordan Jefferson. It wasn’t about the decision, it was about the player. If they’d stuck somebody else in to sneak that ball, you can bet your bottom dollar THAT decision wouldn’t have been booed.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
i think the point is
no matter what has caused you personally to boo, whatever it is, that distinction is not clear to the players. If a guy goes in, and boos come from the stadium, he’s going to assume he’s getting booed. I think Jefferson has been through enough in his career that he can handle it.
You have been mad and drunken, furious and wild, filled with hatred and despair...but so have we - Thomas Wolfe, inadvertently commenting on college football.
Exactly right
People think they’re being so nuanced and clever with this “booing the decision not the player” bs. But do you think that distinction is somehow clear to the player who walks on the field and hears 10,000 boos raining down on him?
If you truly want to register your displeasure with the coaches’ decision, call in or Tuesday night or better yet, head down to Acadian and let Miles know what you think in person. Don’t boo during the game.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Oct 2, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Usually agree with you
But not here. Your position is unfalsifiable, which is…..convenient.
I also happen to agree with you that more than likely at least some of them were just booing Jefferson. But I also don’t think it’s out of the question that some were just booing the change in QB right there.
Billy's position is that he said it - therefore it's right
and if you disagree too much, he might just ban you (3rd week in a row he’s said that to someone). I think maybe Billy drinks too much on gameday.
Look, I think JJ got screwed by the police and the DA. I think he should be on the team. I also happen to hate the two QB – one drive system with him and Lee. JJ’s not that good of a runner and Lee’s not that good of a thrower for that to work consistently in my view.
I wouldn’t have bood JJ coming on to the field, and I think it showed poor taste – but you didn’t have to be a racist to dissaprove of that decision. And I am sick and tired of both sections of LSU fans – the ones who are never happy no matter how well the team does – and the ones who say a ton of LSU fans are racists. I wish both groups would shut up.
Yeah
Cause its always just about disagreeing with me. Seriously look at the guy’s post before you pop off about that shit.
This whole “I said LSU fans are racist for booing JJ” line of thinking is not only a fantasy, it’s a really stupid one.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Oct 2, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
read my post again Billy
Did I ever say you said fans were racist? No. I said I’m sick and tired of fans that have made the argument that a bunch of LSU supporters are racists. I also said I’m sick of the “fans” that are never happy with the team. Obviously, as a charter member of the delusional optimism squad that doesn’t apply to you.
I don’t think you ever said fans were racists for booing JJ. You’ve made that clear – as you have made it clear that you see no reason at all for fans booing the home team. I generally agree with that – but I think it is rational for a fan to think – I like this player, but not the play call. Have you never heard fans boo a decision to take a knee with 20 seconds to go in the half? The QB taking a knee isn’t beeing booed there – the coach is. Now, that’s not exactly the same thing as what happened yesterday, but it’s not totally different either.
Regardless, I do think you’re a a bit of a hothead and that you sometimes have a real problem when people disagree with you. You’ve consistently jumped all over posters who have disagreed with you at times. And you’ve made a lot of comments about getting ready to ban people – which seem rather ridiculous given that the site never seems to ban anyone – even obvious trolls (since I’m not a mod, I don’t know this for sure – maybe y’all have banned some trolls?).
We’re sports fans. We disagree sometimes. As you said in the original post, “Get over it.”
LOL seriously
A guy chimes in and calls me a “bleeding heart liberal” and I’m not supposed to react? Get real. That guy got what he deserved, and so did that CC clown on Wednesday. And for the record, neither was banned. CC was invited to defend his point of view and never did.
You’re cherry picking comments to fit this little view you have. It’s wrong, and it’s ridiculous. The decision WAS a player. This wasn’t booing the kicking team coming on the field. This was booing Jordan Jefferson coming on the field. If you can’t see that, you’re in denial. That’s YOUR problem, not mine. You said something about booing Lee, and guess what, that’s just as wrong and I said as much.
You weren’t in the stadium Saturday. The second Jefferson trotted off that sideline, the boos rained down. Yeah, totally wasn’t about him.
And I’ve disagreed with other people on this board many times, including the other writers. People who are respectful get treated in kind. People that aren’t, are also treated in kind. We’re critical of players, coaches and administrators here, and we’re damn sure going to be critical of fans when they have it coming. And when they boo a particular player just because they don’t like him, they have it coming.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Oct 2, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think putting JJ in
was more important for the team than anyone else, I think. They all wanted to see him out there in an important situation.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
excellent point, for schizzle Carlizle!
coach Miles has proven himself to be a master psycologist, on top of everything else, when it comes to handling this team. It would not surprise me in the least if he had motives over and above just scoring the TD.
JUSTICE FOR JORDAN!!
by andyj on Oct 2, 2011 3:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This is probably true
and part of why Les did it.
Les is a players coach...
A minority of vocal “fans” want him to be a “fans” coach. He is not and has never been a fans coach. What I mean by that is he isn’t the type of coach does things just to appease the fan base. He coaches to win and I believe he is one of the most loyal coaches out there (loyal to his players, coaches and LSU). That loyalty does not always set well with the minority of fans who would rather he coach based on their belief system.
I think real fans, the majority of LSU fans, appreciate and trust CLM to do the right thing.
by Displaced Tiger on Oct 2, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
i dont think they were booing JJ as much as they were booing the coach’s decision to put him in.
That’s a cop out which makes no sense. Let’s assume it’s true for a second, which I don’t think it is. why are they booing the decision? Certainly not from a strategic or football standpoint. Bringing in the big burly QB who is a better runner to take the snap on 4th and goal at the one foot line is a fairly standard call.
So the reason anyone is booing the decision is because they don’t want JJ in the game at all. And the reason they don’t is because they don’t like JJ. Booing the call, in this instance, is clearly booing JJ.
I dislike booing the home team, but if you’re going to do it, for godsakes, be honest about what you’re doing and why you’re doing it. Don’t try and hide behind semantics. You’re booing JJ. Hell, you’re booing LSU.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
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by Poseur on Oct 1, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
For more polite terms than I’ve used.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
I feel sorry for you Billy.
I don’t know what your experience at LSU was like, or what group you observes but I can’t count 5 LSU fans I have encountered over 20 years that would prefer a QB, LB, RB, WR or waterboy over another just because of their skin color. To the contrary, LSU fans just want to win, win win – with a QB with 3 eyes and blue skin if need be. I get that blogs and talk radio might give you the wrong impression, but damn man, it really is not about race for the normal folks who make up the vast majority of fan base. I expect people fear exactly what I fear, and what you said would never happen, that Miles was starting his ’10 Tenn rotation of JJ near the goal. Booing is just stupid and mean, but your race card complex is over blown. You should see somebody about that man.
"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles
by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Oct 1, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
You sound like the sort of ignorant asshole that makes me embarrassed to be a registered republican.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
You still believe in the difference between R and D then you are just as ignorant about politics as you are the LSU fan base.
You brought politics into this, not me
And this isn’t a political blog. I never made one political statement, and this is the last one I’m going to make.
If you keep it up, you won’t be making many more either.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Zimm
If you honestly believe there is NO racism involved in this, I’m sorry but you’re wrong.
I never said it was the leading factor. I said it was A factor. It IS a factor. I’m sorry if you don’t like hearing that, but it’s true. There is no complex. If anything, you tend to react very strongly to any and all suggestion of it. Once again, I never said it was the predominant factor. But it damn sure is A factor.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
I would hope everyone would react strongly to being associated with such a claim.
I’d love a discussion of it. What I don’t like is someone purporting to speak on our behalf saying the fan base has a material bunch of ignorant clan members. The discussion is that there are many reason to be upset with JJ comming in – no excuse to boo him or Miles, but worlds apart from hating the kid, especially becaue he, like 99% of the team is black. I’d love to understand how a good racisit enjoys LSU football? Who the hell do they cheer for, the white players? Slow day….
"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles
by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Oct 1, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And I never denied that there ARE other reasons
In fact, I’ve said, multiple times now, that’s its far more to do with people disliking Jefferson because they don’t think he’s a good player. That’s by far the biggest reason actually. But that doesn’t mean race isn’t part of it. Sorry if you don’t like hearing that, but there was a chunk of people in that stadium (how big? who knows?) that included race in their decision making to boo. That’s just reality.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Oct 1, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Zimm - I have been accused no less than five times for 'race baiting' and I've never ONCE
brought race into the discussion. SOME of those who hate Jefferson claim that EVERYONE who wants him to succeed just wants him because he is black and any support for JLee is therefore racism and any support for JJ from that crowd is considered race baiting.
If you want to speak for the whole fan base and act like it just doesn’t exist it makes me wonder what you are covering for.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
by SouthernMan on Oct 2, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry
but the LSU Aryan QB Fan Club exists, you can bet on that. I had to sit 4 people form a vocal one last year at the Tennessee game.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup
The people behind us at the WVU game last year were card carrying members of that club.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
I sat next to a couple card-carrying members
For the entire duration of Jamarcus Russell’s time at LSU. They exist. They’re in the minority, I’m very sure of that. But they exist.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
I'm sure
they will be behind us again at the Auburn game. And I’ll tell them to STFU again. Freaking ignorant ass mofos.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
I don't think race is a huge factor in the booing
And I never said it was. But to pretend there isn’t some racism involved in it would be naive.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
I know
it’s just this one family that sits right behind where my seats are that irritate the entire section. They are the section cancer.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
Oh I know I just want to be clear
Apparently some people are sensitive on the topic.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
It's just better left unsaid at this point.
It’s not like we need to make people aware of some huge racism issue at LSU…
Kids born today will have probably never heard that word until they are taking history classes in college.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
Kids born today will have probably never heard that word until they are taking history classes in college.
I wish you were right, but you’re not. We are no closer to eradicating racism as we are to eliminating jealousy.
Certainly, we are nowhere near as racist a society as we were two generations or even one generation again. But I think it’s a dangerous belief to say, “Hey! Solved that! Good thing it’s not a problem anymore!”
This has nothing to do with football, so I’ll stop now.
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"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles
by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Oct 1, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
"I think that the people who boo JJ are mostly the same people who still hate CLM because he is not Nick Saban, and never will be"
THIS all day long
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
some of this is what i was worried about with JJ coming back
I think lee’s been great this season. Sometimes his passes are high – but honestly, that’s just the way it’s going to be with him – or with JJ. Our star receivers should make those catches or sit on the bench (RS).
Now, the “problem” is that everytime Lee throws a slightly high pass that is dropped people are going to say – put JJ in. The thing is, JJ has spent the last three throwing the same sort of high or low passes – or getting sacked.
It is going to be tricky to manage this the rest of this season – but I have faith in Les.
Based on today I'm pretty sure people aren't going to say that
It’s pretty clear that the folks in Tiger Stadium today wanted Lee at all costs.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
i dunno
it’s pretty clear that some vocal boo birds wanted that. I wasn’t in the stadium – so it’s hard for me to judge. Was that 10,000 students? 50,000 fans? 250 guys close to the camera mike? I heard the boos, but it didn’t sound that loud.
Was anybody in the stadium that can give more feedback?
they were audible
but it wasnt everybody. maybe 30% booing? so hard to tell. Lee got booed a lot more even last year
I'm proud of my damn strong football team. Have a great day!
I disagree
I’d say it was at least 50%. A smaller percentage booed after the touchdown, but when Jefferson trotted out there it was a solid, audible amount of booing.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Now, the "problem" is that everytime Lee throws a slightly high pass that is dropped people are going to say – put JJ in
Luckily, the fans don’t make substitutions. I think Les is long past caring what the fans think. Well he should be. I think Lee played poorly, though not awful. And I never thought Miles should yank Lee and put in JJ. Lee’s the guy at this point.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
yeah, i think you are right about Les - and about Lee actually
I disagree about Lee’s play though. Good grief, Thompson for UF has caught two passes from Brantley already that were worse than anything Lee through – he had no trouble at all with “off frame” and very high passes the led to him immediately getting hit.
Lee looked bad to me
The back foot thing was the worst it’s been all season, and he’s been doing it pretty much all season. Les isn’t gonna be in a hurry to yank him, but JL has to know that the leash just got shorter.
You have been mad and drunken, furious and wild, filled with hatred and despair...but so have we - Thomas Wolfe, inadvertently commenting on college football.
on the subject of football
I was surprised that we had Lee roll out a lot today. I don’t think we’ve done that too much, and it didn’t seem to work
I'm proud of my damn strong football team. Have a great day!
Yeah, it was something I wanted to see more of
But after watching him do it today, yeah he’s very clearly uncomfortable with it. Which is a little discouraging to be honest.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Also, for those who watched it on TV
what really happened on that almost interception called they reviewed but called our way? It seemed to me to be a INT, but they never showed the replay in the stadium
I'm proud of my damn strong football team. Have a great day!
it's not an INT. It was identical to the WVU play when claiborne almost had the INT last week
he was down instantly with the ball. Tie play goes to offense
THIS
people forget you dont need to tuck the ball to have possession in the middle of the field in college
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
No post game thread for the rest of the games?
Because I would really like to talk about how overated the Tide’s defense is
Fun to watch, is it not?
Doesn’t make me any more confident going to Tuscaloosa, but I am glad they are finally getting to face a good team. Not looking past Florida either. Brantley looks good so far.
Alabama's amazing corners
Can’t stay with Florida’s WRs. Brantley is getting some wide-open looks.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
LSU took care of business; I like that in the games we are supposed to win easily, we have
Was concerned with Ware being out, but glad Blue, and Magee got work in. Defense was great as usual—no problem with the pass rush today and TM7, Wow the play with the strip and scoop and score. Should be #1 on SC.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
UF air raid on the Tide so far, close call on reversing the TD pass, but probably right one
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
damn, Maze is really playing great this year
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Bama's o-line
Is doing a much better job on Florida’s front than I thought they would.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Yeah Bama is starting to grind
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
get a stop gators
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Getting loud! AJ has thrown some INT's this year, could get rattled a lot if he makes an early mistake
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
7-7 NU-Wisc at the end of 1
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
holding most likely
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Dude breaks a tackle or two or three
Every play
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
good play call
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Sabans going to blow up with that penalty
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
power football, right down the middle
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Clemson 23 VaTech 3 in the fourth with 4 min left...
Fuck Clemson (don’t really dislike CU actually), but when commenting of SB, it feels like right thing to type. They look to be the real deal so far.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
you had it right the first time
Fuck Clemson. Still hoping for a meteor
by ORtigerfan on Oct 1, 2011 8:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
hehe
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
So with Auburn winning
tonight, does that mean our game with them is gonna be a Saturday night game? It pretty much has to be, doesn’t it?
Dangerous time for UF, moving the ball at will, but that pick 6 could blow the doors off and Bama will pound away
and those runs will start getting to be 10 yard or more or break one.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Florida's might mite RBs are garbage w/o
an Interstate sized hole to run through
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
8 rushes
for no yards. Bama is stuffing them badly.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
And theyre being tackled on 1st contact
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
yep, beating them up on both sides at the line
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
UF's running game is all or nothing
huge runs or squat with those little dudes
Eddie Lacy
How did we let him get away? Did we just not feel the need to recruit him?
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
Issues.
Probably best for both parties that he went out of state. Besides not like LSU’s hurting at RB.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
UF is all finesse, can't line up and run it (draws are not working either) and Bama is getting pressure
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
UF imploding, roughing passer--this one will get ugly quick if UF does not do something with the ball
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
That sreen play
just gutted Florida right there. And a personal foul to boot.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
UF player throwing punches to get another pf on the next play--dumbass
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Lol, yep
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Need to repsond UF, drive going at the least, points would be great too
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Saben
did y’all see him yell at Maccaron, “settle the fu@k down!”
i much prefer les’s calm demeanor.
Rainey with a big play, crossing patterns are working like a charm but need to finish
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Nice pitch and catch
to Rainey right there. Florida’s got a nice little drive going.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
WTF? fumble and TD for Bama I guess
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
looks like brantley did get the fumble on the replay though
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
WTH
is going on here? I thought fumble recovery for a TD.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
Wow
Just wow. SEC officiating strikes again.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
Brantley goes down--hope he is ok, but this is a damn good example why you bring back senior qb's with a lot of experience
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Oct 1, 2011 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
it's also a reminder
Of why you don’t take back to back sacks to put your team out of FG position. What a botched drive
After Further Review.........
The Bears Still Suck
by smackwaterjack on Oct 1, 2011 9:01 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
yeah, they had it rolling there and at times, but never could get any balance
Bama is whipping them upfront on both sides
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
dude can't catch a break.
I feel bad, but it’s certainly good for us.
You have been mad and drunken, furious and wild, filled with hatred and despair...but so have we - Thomas Wolfe, inadvertently commenting on college football.
Rains, it pours, Just wide Right
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Jeff Driskell
is about to get one hell of a trial by fire.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
no doubt, I hope he can run fast
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
More like
I hope they are fitting him with a flak jacket in the locker room. :/
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
get him one trainer, he will need it
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
One thing becoming very clear
LSU is going to have to be able to throw the ball to beat Alabama.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Yup
Lots of short crossing routes and screen plays will be in order I think.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
Which means the WRs need to be ready to catch the harder passes
Since shorter passes will have more zip on them & we haven’t been too consistent with catching those peppered passes
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
this. If the WR can't catch the short passes, we won't be able to
“matriculate down the field.”
Our receivers will have a
strong want to catch the short crossing routes.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
Lee has to get on point with them too
Those are the routes he struggles with the most.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Jefferson is gonna be a huge piece
vs. Bama (I hope).
When I thought he wasn’t coming back, I’ve been looking at the Bama game as the game on our slate where I thought we’d really miss his services most. If Lee played his absolute best for a full 4 quarters, I’d have confidence in him. But we know he’s not going to do that, and a mobile QB who is not scared to tuck it and take what’s there is a great weapon to have against a suffocating defense like Alabama’s who is likely to make using every other weapon we have a living hell.
USCe meltdown, maybe should have had a shot for a fg with clock stopping after picking up a first...
probably should have had a try to run fg team on with the clock stopping with at least one second, but you dont throw it over the middle with no to’s, twice with the play before. Garcia having a rough rough year.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Wisconsin welcoming NU into the BIG rudely. 27-14 at half
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMHLTsOA-2g
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 1, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
hahaha.....awesome awesome reference
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
OK, UF get tough or it is lights out
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Wow
Offsetting special teams personal fouls. Never seen that before.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
UF D did their part, fucking dumb roughing punter, dumb, dumb, dumb
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
lucky, lucky
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Jeff Driskell, welcome to the SEC. Hope you do well tonight
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
East West running won't get it done
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
UF showing some fight on defense at least
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
great catch, man UF needed to get them stopped back there
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
I think Vandy is tied for first in the east
with 4 other teams. In the loss column, at least.
You have been mad and drunken, furious and wild, filled with hatred and despair...but so have we - Thomas Wolfe, inadvertently commenting on college football.
We Are Going To Have To Play . . .
. . . a whole lot better than we did tonight if we hope to beat ’Bama. Before Brantley went down, I would have said the same about Florida next week. For the most part, O line did a good job of protecting him.
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