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Upon Further Review: The Florida Game

This time last year I was dancing down the streets of Chicago in drunken glee. LSU had gone into the Swamp, taken down the Gators and done so in spectacular fashion, with a tipsy fake FG and the great play of Jarrett Lee, atoning for his 2008 sins. Florida ended up being only an above average team, but the significance of that moment will not be lost on me. It was a really satisfying, rewarding victory. I wish I could say the same about this game.

It's not that I'm not ecstatic to now be 6-0 and to crush one of our bigger rivals from the past decade. Of course I am. It's just that, it's a lot less satisfying when that team is pounded into submission about 8 minutes into the first quarter, and it's apparent that no amount of effort is going to will them back into the game. Then again, who am I kidding? Beating the hell out of Florida is pretty damn satisfying. True enough, the game is never over before the clock hits 0:00, but if ever a game between reputable programs was over before the teams took the field, it may have been this one.

Star-divide

Losing John Brantley against Alabama spelled trouble for Florida. When news began to surface that backup QB, Jeff Driskel (whose play has been uninspiring to say the least) would also be inactive for the trip to Tiger Stadium... doom seemed imminent. With all due respect to Jacoby Brissett (whose physical talent is evident), making your collegiate debut as a true freshman, in Tiger Stadium, with this defense as your welcoming party? No, thank you.

What's nice to see is that this LSU team doesn't take anything for granted. The 2010 squad seemed complacent, at times (see Tennessee). At they very least they were error prone. Not this version. They knew they'd be feasting on a green, freshman QB in Death Valley and approached the game as if Tim Tebow himself was suiting up for the Gators again. I think last year's squad would take beating Florida as an accomplishment.* This year's squad sees it as merely a necessary step to get where they are headed.

*I'm not saying it's not an accomplishment, just that it appears the mindset/approach is different.

It's always fun for me to sit down and re-watch the game, not in a drunken, excited tizzy. On gameday, I'm all raw emotion and excitement and nerves. When I re-watch, I'm objective and analytical. The tape always shows me things that I may miss during the game, sometimes good and sometimes bad. Though I haven't been able to devote the energy to it that I would like this season (damn you, job). As a result, here are a few of my thoughts from this game:

Offense

-Really love the early play call to go play action and hit Randle deep. This was really a simple play. Only two routes. Joseph stayed in to help protect on Lee's blindside. Beckham motioned across the formation and ran a simple flag route (which he was also wide open) and Randle ran a fly pattern. Randle cleanly beat his man, and Lee dropped a perfect pass right out in front of him for an easy touchdown. Really nice play call.

-Rueben Randle played like a true no. 1 WR. He was dominant and impossible to cover. I've had my doubts about him asserting himself as a true no. 1 WR, but games like this give me hope. The ability is all there, but he needs that selfish, "I'm going to take over" mentality.

-Spencer Ware, on the other hand, has that in spades. Ware was running mean and determined on Saturday. He's a fierce load to handle when he gets going down hill. Some guys just run with an edge and tenacity. Ware is one of those cats. Love watching him bowl over defenders and plow ahead for 3, 4 more yards... routinely.

-Speaking of Ware, on his first TD run, Josh Williford and JC Copeland laid down some slam dunk blocks. Williford pulled the ole "put his dick in the dirt" and Copeland absolutely blasted someone (who I didn't think enough off to write the name down in my notes). It was a sight to see. Imagine, a 330 lb. guard opening a hole for a 280 lb. FB to clean out a guy for a 230 lb RB to score. That's a whole lotta mass coming at you. BTW, in the second half, Copeland blew up another LB, and the safety came down to "fill" on Ware. He dove at Ware's feet, and no, not in the "I'm gonna take his legs out" type of tackle. He wanted none of it.

-The offensive line was dominant on Saturday. Easily their best performance of the year. And Florida has some super talent up front, don't be mistaken. I realize Will Blackwell won SEC OL of the week, but Chris Faulk deserved the honors, IMO. He was blasting people all over the field all afternoon. We were driving them 4, 5 yards off the field, nearly every play.

-By that same token, allow me to give tremendous props to a player who garners little attention: Mitch Joseph. I kept rewinding plays and saying, "Who is that OL putting that DL on his back? Oh wait, that's Mitch." He absolutely blew UF's DL out of the water all afternoon, and I'm happy Miles rewarded him with the jump pass TD.

-By the way, jump pass. Lulz.

-Jarrett Lee made two nice throws on deep balls to Rueben Randle. I like seeing that. His numbers were shiny on the day, but I think the two long throws compensated for an otherwise lackluster performance. Not that they shouldn't count, but his decision making and ball placement still concern me. Florida has a secondary that is ripe for the taking, and Tennessee and Auburn don't pose much of a threat either. If he gets through Bama flawlessly, I'll eat my words.

-Aflred Blue ran tougher and more motivated than I can ever remember seeing him. Good for him, and good on Miles to let him run with it over Ford. Hope his family recovers nicely.

-Jefferson looked good. Thought the endzone toss to Randle was a throw away, but the timing was off on that play for whatever reason. Decent toss to DLo, though a little behind him. Wasn't all that effective running, but defense has to respect it, thus, the jump pass. Ran a really nice PA and hit a nice toss to Shep. Like seeing that.

-I liked seeing Jarvis Landry mix it up when blocking. He's tenacious.

-In the case of the LSU offense, less is more. We run far more 2-man routes, with one read and throw away than I can recall from the past few years with Crowton. The instruction is obvious, there's your guy, if he's not open, throw it away. No sense in forcing a complicated progression on two guys who have struggled with such in the past.

Defense

-The defensive line was marvelous. Florida's line was getting little to no push all day. Even their good runs were typically crafty work by their RBs rather than pushing us around. Some are concerned that a power rushing attack could hurt our "undersized" front, but I think the "functional strength" of this team more than compensates. Sure, you can go down the depth chart and say we are small here and small there, but these guys are deceivingly strong. Size isn't everything when it comes to stopping the run. The 1994 Minnesota Vikings lead the NFL in rush D. They had DTs that checked in at 275 and 278. In that case, their penetration prevented run games from ever getting going.

-The defense seemed to be everywhere on Saturday. They flowed and disengaged very, very well. It wasn't uncommon to see one or even two DL in on just about every tackle, and not because they piled on after a long play down field.

-Early, Brockers absolutely ripped through Dan Wenger (who had a miserable game against our DTs) and made a TFL. He's got dominant ability.

-Safeties did a really nice job of reading and filling. They played most of the game 10-15 yards off the ball, but both Taylor and Reid did an exceptional job of diagnosing plays, crashing hard and filling. Very sound tackling.

-Montgomery continues to impress. One play he stood up the OT, disengaged and made the tackle. On another he lifted Jordan Reed off the ground and deposited him 3 yards into the backfield. He gets trapped inside sometimes, but overall, he's the most complete DE on the team.

-Mingo plays with reckless abandon at times, but his speed is so valuable. On one play, he missed Burton in the backfield. Ended up a small gain, should have been a loss. On another, he zipped into the backfield and caused Rainey to bubble, and the play ended up being a 1-yard gain, only because of Rainey's quicks. Plays like that don't get recorded on the boxscore. He got tremendous pressure on the play that resulted in a Brandon Taylor pick. He's a lot to handle and commands a lot of respect from opposing teams.

-Ego Ferguson got some PT, but you can see why he's a backup. Got blown up on one play. Rebounded the next and stuffed the ball at the L.O.S. He still plays too high.

-Our linebackers still struggle mightily in coverage. Florida was able to sneak a few plays out with crossing patterns and slipping guys out of the backfield. They must improve.

-However, Kevin Minter is really coming on at MLB. His coverage is mixed, at best, but he's really solid as a downhill, run-stuffing MLB, and if it's between the spotty coverage and less impactful Hatcher and spotty coverage, run enforcing Minter, Minter is the obvious choice, especially the next 3 weeks.

-Speaking of Hatcher, he ate up a blocker on one play, which allowed Taylor to come free and make a nice open field tackle. However, he later tried to arm tackle Gillislee. Can't have that.

-Mathieu continues to make plays. Early he diagnosed, closed and cleaned up on a screen play. Saved a potential huge play by Rainey (whichwas been called back, but nice to see the effort). And showed pure coverage skills on the pick. The kid can flat out play.

Special Teams

-Loving the depth Hairston gets on KOs. Struggled a little in the wind, but still booting it pretty strong.

-The Wing improvise was the highlight of the day. Great athleticism, stupid penalty.

-Otherwise, I'm still disappointed in our STs. We continue to give up healthy returns on KOR. We allowed a tipped punt. Alabama plays good STs. Arkansas and Auburn have dangerous return men. Would like for us to shore this up sooner than later. Also, the KR haven't been very good, sans the TD from Mo. We must improve.

Summary

Overall, a strong effort. The offense went 2 quarters in the middle of the game without doing a lot. That's a little concerning. They don't need to score every possession, but milk clock and wear the defense down. Then again, the gameplan went very vanilla. We haven't really had to show much thus far. Sustained drives are our best friends. Defense was flat out dominant all day. Mo slipped on the long play, and I still don't understand that rule, but hey, it happens. Florida didn't do much of anything. They got desperate, early, going for it on 4th, trying a fake punt, etc. Clearly outclassed.

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The JJ endzone pass

Honestly, I think he saw two defenders on Randle, who was the only receiver in the pattern, and just threw it away. In that situation, trying to stick anything in there doesn’t make any sense, regardless of the route.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 12, 2011 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

i dunno. If that was a throw-away - it was a bad one

I really want JJ to do well, but that first endzone passed looked like his typical work from the last couple of years. Hopefully he will improve.

by GeauxTiger on Oct 12, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well out of bounds, in the general vicinity of the WR

You can’t “throw it away” much better than that.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 12, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was throwing it away.

If not, he would have lobbed it into the corner. He pretty much riffled it into the first row.
But the timing was way off. RR was not even looking or working back when JJ was ready to throw. Strange looking play.

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by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Oct 12, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you have a 1-WR pattern like that

And you’re up 24-3 and inside the 5, if you have any doubt, you throw it away.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 12, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why throw it away on 3rd and goal?

Why not tuck it and try to run it in. If he is truly a dual threat QB, he could have tried to score.

I am glad he didn’t throw a pick, but I don’t understand why fans are saying he should throw it away on a supposedly one-route pass play…read double coverage and tuck it.

by Houseplants on Oct 12, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Visual aid

As you can see, there were 2 defenders to his left, at least 1 to his right, a middle safety and there’s another defender out of the shot. Chances of getting it in are slim, and its more important in this situation to preserve the field goal.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 12, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Usually with 1-WR routes

There’s either a roll-out and a run-pass option (clearly not the case here), or the reads are throw it/throw it away. If it’s a straight drop chances are the defense is going to be in good position to cover a scramble.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 12, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't lee hit the fade pass in the kentucky game with 2 guys in

Randle’s vicinity?

I mean, the fade is supposed to be a safe route to the back of the endzone that no one but the receiver can catch if thrown properly. It’s supposed to be safe regardless of coverage, right?

by GeauxTiger on Oct 13, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure what play you're talking about from UK.

Randle caught a jump-ball in double coverage but that wasn’t a fade really, just a ball Lee threw up for grabs — you can do that way down the field against UK, but its generally not smart a smart read.

But no, there’s no play where you’re told to throw it no matter what, especially in double coverage. Plus, there’s the circumstances of this particular situation. 24-3, and the last thing you want is to do anything that gives Florida momentum. I’d be willing to bet when the play came in it was followed by “if it ain’t there, chuck it into the first row.”

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 13, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

the route vs. UK

Looked like a skinny post or just a “go” that Lee threw inside. Fades are up against the sideline.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 13, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Stud/Krags clearly expected a heavy blitz here … UF didn’t do this which left 9 men to block 5. RR was double covered meaning there were 4 players that all had their eye on JJ. He would’ve had to beat at least 2 players (probably 3) to the end zone no matter what side he scrambled.

While some of our bigger plays this season have come off of them (long play to DPeterson vs Oregon, TD to Beckham vs WV and at least a couple of others I recall seeing but can’t remember off the top of my head), I’m generally not a big fan of 1 WR routes.

by amiznit on Oct 13, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

They're a gamble

That needs to be calculated very carefully (again, thank God Crowton’s not here anymore).

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 13, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Re: Crowton & progressions

Actually, he didn’t have any. Crowton ran receivers all over but it was painfully obvious throws were dictated to go to 1, maybe 2 guys, no matter what. It led to JLee tossing ill advised passes and JJ getting sacked / running a lot.

That’s disjoint from what Stud & Krag are doing – some plays we have progressions, some plays we have decoys, and some plays its ‘2 go out and the rest protect’. Its been a good mix, particularly with our running game.

by Xanathol on Oct 12, 2011 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe progression wasn't the right word

But I remember when Crowton first came, everyone was abuzz with the “option routes” and all the stuff he was going to bring so our offense wouldn’t be bland and predictable. It was all dictated on the QB and WR reading the coverage and knowing which should be which, etc.

Obviously there are still some bits of this, but I got the sense that this was every single play and every single route for Gary.

I think this lead to tons of confusion. It was system overload for young QBs, who weren’t protected, but thrown to the fire.

Eye right blahgs.

And The Valley Shook

by Paul Crewe on Oct 12, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crowton called plays as if he was the guy from Memento playing playstation.

Fixed it for you.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 12, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

And not even the new games on playstation which are smart

No, Crowton called plays like he was playing Madden 1996 where going for a fake FG on 2nd and 10 from your own 12 yard line would work b/c who expects a fake FG on 2nd and 10 from your own 12 yard line?

by amiznit on Oct 12, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus it was like he had no situational awareness

It’s third and 8 and your quarterback sucks at throwing the quick slant — Well let’s call the quick slant! They’ll never see it coming!

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 12, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pass 1:

Z runs off the field – total mind-melt the defense.
X goes deep, like student section deep.
TE runs up, stops. Comes back, stops.Comes closer, stops. Etc.
RB – option route right or run around in circles left.

Pass 2:

QB, RB, LG, RG, and C go on routes, rest pass block.
Bench player runs the ultimate hideout “FTW”.

by Xanathol on Oct 12, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Love...

“Student section deep”. This may be the best comment ever.

by Gas_House_Gorillas on Oct 13, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still laughing

Thinking about the center and guards going downfield in the crowton offense.

Very well done

by ORtigerfan on Oct 12, 2011 7:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol Rec'd it

I like the bench player route. Still laughing.

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by AcquiredPanic on Oct 12, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is one of the awesomest visuals EVAR

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by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spot on with Minter

Chavis will def. have to work Minter in more against Bama b/c you just know they’ll like their chances running at 2 converted safeties at LB if Hatcher & Francois are in there. I can still see Bama running a lot of one-back 2 TEs, TE & H-back to try & get a lighter defensive package on the field to pound us in the middle

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by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 12, 2011 2:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Math and Logic vs. Sleight of Hand
Ran a really nice PA and hit a nice toss to Shep. Like seeing that.

They set this up nicely. Multiple times, Shepard showed the same motion into the line and blocked the edge on a run. The “contain” defenders start charging in, and boom, we bootleg them. It isn’t necessarily an indictment of an OC if we peons can’t pick out the setups and the constraint plays that compliment them, but it is certainly an affirmation of an OC if we can.

And not to get too purple about this, but the fact that we all expected the StudThorpe offense to be simpler, more consistent, and more effective than Crowton’s doesn’t make it any less important or any less exciting that it has turned out to be just that so far. To Crowton’s credit, from time to time he fooled defenses with sleight of hand through formations, motion, or downright cuteness. It was artful, and it was effective every now and again. But what this year’s offense has proven is that art can fail and that math, cruel and heartless math always beats art it in the end. The beef train Paul described coming through the gaps on our standard lead play doesn’t get any less beefy the more times we run it. And no matter how badly they fight the urge, opposing defenses are going to start to cheat, and when they cheat, they’ll get the constraint (not, say, a random tunnel screen for some reason).

And speaking of Crowton, don’t look now, y’all, but the numbers don’t lie: we’re on pace (38.5 PPG so far) to equal or beat the 2007 team’s record-setting PPG average (38.6 PPG).

by Johnny Hutchinson on Oct 12, 2011 3:22 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Another note about that play

It plays to the complimentary aspects of Lee and Jefferson. Rollout passes are clearly more JJ’s forte compared to Lee, and that’s just another way the two-QB system can attack teams. There can be more to it than just “JJ in = spread option running.”

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 12, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

There has to be...

If he doesn’t throw it some, teams will load the box.

I agree that those roll-out type run-throw options are the best plays for him.

by Houseplants on Oct 12, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The irony

is that JJ is a drop back QB that has turned himself into an effective runner. I think that fact gets lost. His initial runs from the QB position were pretty hard to watch. He’s improved so much in that area that people think he’s a running QB only.

by Howard Green on Oct 12, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember early part of last year...

When people complained about how terrible his running was and said he was a “pocket passer.”

Eye right blahgs.

And The Valley Shook

by Paul Crewe on Oct 13, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

And additionally, Lee can't throw on the run

So the two QB’s complement each other in that regard.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 12, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

While it tricked a few people, some of the time

it confused the shit out of our QB, WR and RB pretty much all the time. How many formation and motion and delay penalties does it take to see you are confusing your own players.

Sorry, that rant is 12 months late.

"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles

by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Oct 12, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

In addition...
True enough, the game is never over before the clock hits 0:00

And sometimes not even after that…

/stillbitter

Bring it across, shape it down

by Getoffmyvols on Oct 12, 2011 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Special Teams

According to some newfangled statistic by Brian Fremeau at Football Outsiders, LSU ranks second nationally in “Special Teams Efficiency.” I assume a lot of this value comes from the punting game (and the WVU game in particular) and the Claiborne return + the Mathieu strip and TD against Oregon, but may be a case where the overall results are better than the perception one gets when looking at each phase of special teams separately.

by holden on Oct 12, 2011 5:04 PM CDT reply actions  

The punting team has been beyond ridiculous

5 yards allowed for the entire season. And it was in negative figures a week ago.

Kickoff coverage has been average more or less (5th in the SEC in yardage allowed, just 2 over 30, which is the third-lowest figure), but the number of touchbacks continue to go up, and that’s a good thing.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Oct 12, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah it looks like our 2 awesome games

are making up for average or below-average special teams performance in the 4 other games. Rutgers, Florida St and Boise St. look like they’re more consistently good than we are.

by amiznit on Oct 12, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice!

Our punting team is clearly dominant (sans the block from last week).

Our punt returns haven’t been anything special, but I’m probably spoiled from last year.

KO coverage is concerning to me, especially with some of the dynamic athletes coming up on our schedule. But the kicks getting to the endzone are encouraging.

KO returns are decent, just nothing to call home about.

Eye right blahgs.

And The Valley Shook

by Paul Crewe on Oct 13, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

The biggest difference

Is the confidence on offense. Last year during UT week this team looked utterly lost. I fondly remember JJ galloping through the defense on the opening play…and then no other TD’s until after UT flunked basic math. Everything in between was about ninety different shades of ugly. By the time things started getting mildly together, the bread-and-butter of this team was Stevan Ridley and nothing more. The offense looked lost when struggling, and surprised when succeeding.

Fast forward to this year, and the gameplan in simpler. Spencer Ware is the key rusher, but both Michael Ford and Alfred Blue have added significant gains. The receivers are playing better, and the QBs are playing within their talents. There isn’t any need to be a unique offense to succeed. Both Lee and Jefferson are taking care of the ball. Its smart football and relying upon that ferocious punter and equally vicious D to keep the opposition from getting the game out of hand.

Great midpoint to the season.

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