Embrace the Hype; Hope for Chaos
Hi guys. It's time for my not-particularly-frequent contribution to this blog. I still don't have home internet service (the sticks would call my neighborhood "the sticks"). Obviously, since I live and work in Alabama and I'm somewhat of a high profile LSU fan in the local area, I am getting constantly bombarded with questions, comments, taunts, trash-talk, good-natured discussion, etc., about the upcoming game against the Alabama Crimson Tide.
I tell everyone the same thing: I don't know which team is better, and anyone who says they know is fooling themselves. You simply cannot look at how these two teams have played and reliably judge which is better. It is plain that both teams are much better than everyone they've faced. Each has essentially named its score against many of its opponents.
This is not to say there aren't differences, but even the differences are subtle. This isn't an air raid offense versus the wishbone. Both of these teams rely on power running, play-action passes, and killer defenses. Both play conservatively on offense, take care of the football, and try to crush you on defense.
Today, I was talking to a friend of mine, and I broke it down for him as best I could.
Bama has the better running backs (Trent Richardson is better than anyone we have, though we have good running backs too). LSU has the better receivers, though again, Bama's are pretty good themselves. LSU has the better quarterbacks. The offensive line are a wash, in my opinion.
On defense, LSU has the better defensive line. Bama has the better linebackers. Some may disagree with me, but I think LSU has the better secondary. Tyrann Mathieu rightly gets a lot of attention, but I think the best player on our defense is Mo Claiborne. He just doesn't get the attention because he is used in a way that allows the opposing offenses to remove him from the game if they're willing to sacrifice their outside receivers. We make that trade.
How many times have quarterbacks thrown to a man covered by Claiborne? I think it's been about 10 times all season, and he has three interceptions. Another ball thrown in Claiborne's direction was intercepted by Ron Brooks and taken to the end zone. Bama has outstanding defensive backs too, but Claiborne is an NFL cornerback playing in college, Mathieu is an incredible playmaker, Brandon Taylor is both heady and athletic, Tharold Simon is Mo Claiborne without the ability to consistently come down with the interception, Eric Reid hits like a truck, and Ron Brooks has to be the best dime back in the history of college football.
Anyway, continuing my mini-breakdown. I told him that we have the better punting, but Bama has the better return game. Bama has better field goal kicking, but LSU has better kickoffs, but is sometimes a little shaky on kickoff coverage. (And if you don't think a punting advantage is important, remember that punting kept us in the game against Auburn in 2010 when we were dramatically outplayed in other phases of the game. Also, keep in mind that according to Roll Bama Roll no team forces more punts than Bama. If we have to punt, at least we'll do it well.)
OK, so we can figure out which units are the superior units. How do you add all that up and decide which is the better team? God only knows at this point.
The big advantage Bama has is that the game is at home for them. Our biggest "scares" this season have both come on the road. Both West Virginia and Mississippi State were still in the game well into the third quarter, and were our only opponents to hold out so long. Everyone else folded up the tents right after halftime, or before.
Our big advantage is that we have a coach who thrives on big games and who will do his level best to create chaos in this game. Les Miles thrives on chaos, and his counterpart on the other side likes things orderly. I strongly suspect that Les Miles will play up the hype, allow his players to get pumped, and try to ride emotion in this game. Meanwhile, on the other sideline, Nick Saban's priority is, "Getting our players not to think about everything that’s surrounding the game." I strongly suspect that Nick Saban's approach will be to make this business-like, and "just another game." It's his nature, and I can't blame him for being who he is. He thrives on organization, planning, and regularity. If this game gets chaotic, with turnovers and crazy plays, I give us the advantage every time.
Maybe I'm biased, but I actually think Les's personality is better suited for this game. It's a huge game. There's no denying it. All evidence shows that these are the two best teams in the country, and both teams have very good chances of winning the remainder of their games on the schedule after this one, though LSU has the slightly tougher path out of the season. It will be in prime time, and if you switched the uniforms around and took the names off of the jerseys you'd have a hard time figuring out something was wrong. The teams are just that similar. It will make fascinating viewing on my television. There is no sense in treating this as just another game. It isn't. It's the biggest regular season game not just of the year, but of the last several years.
I see two keys to this game for us. First, our defensive tackles must disrupt the middle of the field. Our linebackers are undersized, and if Trent Richardson and Eddie Lacy get clean to the second level in the power running game, it will be a long game. The good news is that we have great defensive tackles, and we can rotate them in and out. In particular, I think Michael Brockers is a terrific player, and needs to get All-SEC or All-America attention. The second key is to WIN the turnover battle. Both of these teams take care of the ball (though we take care of it better, committing only 3 turnovers all season, one of which a fumble by a backup running back who probably won't be on the travel team). Both of these teams create turnovers, though again, we do it better and more spectacularly (18 turnovers created for us, versus 14 created for them). Winning the turnover battle, and using it to generate points, is a huge key for us.
One of the crazy things about college football, and one of the reasons I love it, is that the best team doesn't always play the best game on any given day, and sometimes the team that plays the best doesn't actually win. I can't wait to see how this one goes down.
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Great article
only piece I disagree with is the RB analysis. Its easy to say Trent is better because he is their feature back, their workhorse, because that’s their philosophy, whereas we use too many for anyone to find out just how good any one of our backs are. Basically, if TR was on our team, he’d be in the rotation just like the other backs, and that makes it even. Turn the conversation to depth, and we’re way ahead of Bama in the RB department ( we literally have a stable ).
That said, it is about matchups and TR on our LBers is a win for Bama – a big one. That’s why I seriously hope we come out with a 5 man front when Bama goes to a pro or 2 TE set. We are overflowing at DL and you need to put your best players on the field. Some might say ’don’t change’ but Chavis himself would tell you its not much of a change at all – our backend is use to running with 2 LBers and a hybrid up at the line.
Bringing in a actual DL there would fit right in with our D, stop their OL from getting to our second level, and put our strength on the field – here’s hoping it happens. Because as much as I love our guys, if the Bama OL can get to our LBs so that they have to shed and tackle TR, its going to be rough to pull one out.
In truth, the distribution to backs isn't much different for LSU than for Alabama.
When you break down the stats, Richardson gets ~59% of our carries. Ware has gotten ~48% of LSU’s carries. If you adjust the LSU backs’ carries to their normal rate per game – to normalize for Ware’s suspension – you’re within a point or two of the Alabama distribution for “feature” back vs. all others.
Richardson gets the majority of carries, but Lacey and Fowler are more than window dressing, same as Blue and Ford for LSU.
Velocitas eradico
Have the RBR guys done a per quarter carry breakdown?
This is not necessarily a reply to your post, but in the cobwebs of my brain, I seem to remember that the 2009 Bama team’s rushing stats were a little deceptive in that a lot yards came later in the game when the Tide was well ahead. It’s not a criticism either, it’s just that I recall there being some discussion of ‘09 Bama would ground and pound to protect a lead rather than create it. I am dreaming that? I wonder if the same is true for this team (doesn’t seem like it would be with breaking in a new QB)?
Can anybody point me to a field position comparison? Could we break it down further to field position from ST and from turnovers?
by haveagreatday on Oct 28, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Trent rarely sees the 4th qt, about the only time ive seen him in the 4th was against tenn and i think they were just giving him a few extra carries to try to hit 100 most of the time is fowler running a muck
by BeavisXtreme on Oct 28, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Distinct Advantages
I think Bama’s biggest advantage is that LSU hasn’t yet played a really good defense whereas Bama has (PSU on the road.)
LSU has the ability to completely change their offense with the two QBs rotating which will force a lot of adjustments and potential chaos.
This is may be the two best teams to play an SEC regular season game since Bama and Auburn squared off in 1971 where both teams were undefeated and ranked #2 and #5 respectively. Of course that one wasn’t close, and I can see a possibility that a surge by one team or the other could create a bigger margin than anticipated.
Even that one could be cancelled out
Given that Bama hasn’t faced a really good offense yet, whereas LSU has seen 2, both on the road (or road and neutral site).
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Oct 27, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just about to post that.
Some will say Arky, but the pigs couldn’t run to save their life and a one diminsional offense against either of these teams is a one way ticket to midnight.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
I'd actually forgotten about Arkie
But they and WVU would be comparable. Both very one-dimensional passing teams.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Oct 27, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know that I'd put Arkansas' offense on the WVU level
They are similarly one-dimensional, but WVU is that way by design. Arkansas is one dimensional due to injury. Petrino would MUCH rather have a more balanced attack with Knile Davis pounding defenses to keep their safeties close to the line. Holgorsen’s offense is more effective at being one dimensional, imo.
Well, ideally, Holgorsen would run the ball a good amount
But WVU doesn’t have the right backs for the system currently. But when I say comparable, I mostly mean in terms of production and rankings, etc…
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Oct 28, 2011 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions
To be fair to Ark
Bama made them one-dimensional. Their running game has been OK against other teams.
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by Richard Pittman on Oct 28, 2011 11:22 AM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Seems to be heating up since Dennis Johnson got more involved.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Oct 28, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
"One Way Ticket To Midnight"
Sounds like an Iron Maiden tune
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/comment that has nothing to do with the game
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by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 27, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
that one dimensional team beat lsu last year didn’t they?
by BeavisXtreme on Oct 28, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Knile Davis says hi
Arkansas wasn’t one-dimensional last year.
Nor is that really relevant to THIS season.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Oct 28, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Not much to analyze from last year
Hatcher doesn’t blow his Cover 2 positioning with going for kill shots on 2 plays & we win against Arkansas. Too bad that STILL has nothing to do with us playing Bama :)
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Oct 28, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
By that logic, LSU will outgain Bama on the ground 2 to 1 next Saturday
since we put up 225 to Bama’s 102 last year. It’s already hard enough to compare apples to apples regarding our respective schedules. You’re comparing apples to telephone poles by bringing in a third team from a different year.
by haveagreatday on Oct 28, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I too, miss the Pittman.
Inanity @gothlaw
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by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 27, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
$ Raise to Buy Richard DirectTV Internet
I’d chip in
Great article, Richard,
I didn’t know that there were any places left in America where you couldn’t get the internet. I guess preparing for the coming Apocolypse does have it’s disadvantages, eh Rich?
I am really looking forward to this game next week!
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by Purpletiger006 on Oct 27, 2011 10:29 PM CDT reply actions
Eat some grass, make those timely crazy calls when necessary....
and let it rip with all kinds of chaos! Love Les. I will be very drunk on the 5th and hoping for the best. Geaux Tigers!
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by mjtig on Oct 27, 2011 11:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
good to see you weigh in, richard
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Nice job
This is probably the best assessment I have seen on this game. Thank-you!
I am a Bama guy, and hope my team wins but I know how good LSU is and know that my team could easily go down.
My favorite comment is at the end… “One of the crazy things about college football, and one of the reasons I love it, is that the best team doesn’t always play the best game on any given day, and sometimes the team that plays the best doesn’t actually win. I can’t wait to see how this one goes down.” – EXACTLY! We all know how these 2 teams match up evenly but that doesn’t mean it is going to be a great game – it could be a pretty decisive win, and I could see it either way.
I just hope that it doesn’t come down to a crappy play/muffed punt/total luck play. May the best team win!
by Hogtide56 on Oct 28, 2011 9:05 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
great breakdown
Very thoughtful and balanced.
by CeeDave on Oct 28, 2011 2:38 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
Great to hear from you Richard
Looks good to me. Even steven teams – at Bama – Mad Hatter wins by 14. I can hope, right?
Just looking at the numbers....
One thing that concerns me is LSU’s red zone defense. Granted, it’s not often that teams actually get the ball in the red zone against this D, but when they do, the usually get points (opponents have scored 15 of 16 trips to the red zone, but on the bright side, they’ve only allowed 16 trips to the red zone all season.), and LSU’s D is giving up touchdowns more than they should in those situations. It seems that they’re not able to shut offenses down in the red zone and keep points off the board. My concern is against Bama’s physical O-line and running game, when they do get the ball in the red zone, will our D be able to stiffen and force a field goal instead of a TD if they have to.
LSU’s D is fast, and built for speed and to move fast sideline to sideline and shut down spread offenses, and I hope they can match the physicality of Bama’s offense and power running game, especially at the linebacker position. That’s one match-up that isn’t as even as everything else seems at first glance. Given that the D hasn’t been in many situations where they’ve had to stop offenses in the red zone, I hope they’re able to rise to the challenge and stiffen up and make a stop when they need to.
I don't have the stats handy
But isn’t bama’s red zone td efficiency one of their weaker statistical categories? With Logan and Brockers on gap control we may be able to use that to our advantage
by ORtigerfan on Oct 29, 2011 1:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

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