Blog Pollin Week 12
by Poseur on Nov 13, 2011 2:28 PM CST
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And The Valley Shook! Ballot - Week 12
| Rank | Team | Delta |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | LSU Tigers | -- |
| 2 | Oklahoma St. Cowboys |  1 |
| 3 | Alabama Crimson Tide |  -1 |
| 4 | Oregon Ducks | 2 |
| 5 | Oklahoma Sooners | 2 |
| 6 | Arkansas Razorbacks | 2 |
| 7 | Clemson Tigers | 4 |
| 8 | Houston Cougars | 2 |
| 9 | Virginia Tech Hokies | -- |
| 10 | Stanford Cardinal | -6 |
| 11 | Boise St. Broncos | -6 |
| 12 | Kansas St. Wildcats | 1 |
| 13 | Georgia Bulldogs | 2 |
| 14 | USC Trojans | 5 |
| 15 | South Carolina Gamecocks | 2 |
| 16 | Michigan St. Spartans | -2 |
| 17 | Michigan Wolverines | 3 |
| 18 | Wisconsin Badgers | -2 |
| 19 | Nebraska Cornhuskers | 3 |
| 20 | Penn St. Nittany Lions | -8 |
| 21 | Southern Miss. Golden Eagles | 4 |
| 22 | Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets | -4 |
| 23 | Baylor Bears | 1 |
| 24 | Florida St. Seminoles | -- |
| 25 | Notre Dame Fighting Irish | -- |
| Dropouts: Cincinnati Bearcats, Texas Longhorns | ||
SB Nation BlogPoll College Football Top 25 Rankings "
1-5. No real surprises. Okie St. moves to #2 on the strength of eviscerating Tech. OU and UO are a coin flip, but I'd move OU ahead if they beat OSU. Right now, the Ducks have the better win.
6-10. Arkansas leads the pack Clemson still holds the head to head edge over VT. Houston is the prime beneficiary of poll inertia -- hey, not losing is a real skill this year.
11-15. Boise drops out of the top 10, and I might drop them further in the coming weeks. I also like ranking the two USC's back to back.
16-20. The Big Ten logjam. Yeah, I have no way to separate these teams as they don't have any big OOC wins to distinguish themselves.
21-25. The chaff. I seriously ran out of teams. Notre Dame? Blech. But it was either that or TCU. Or Texas. Or Auburn. Or WVU. None of those excite me either.
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looks pretty good
but if Boise is 11, shouldn’t TCU be ranked? And if a TCU team that has 2 lousy losses shouldn’t be ranked, shouldn’t boise be lower?
Boise beat UGA, which is a nice win
TCU lost to Baylor, which is decent, and SMU, which isn’t. The whole resume counts. TCU now has one good win, a decent loss and a horrible loss. Boise’s big win looks better and better, and their one loss is decent. TCU is on the cusp, but not there.
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Good points all around.
Houston should torch SMU as well, making TCU’s loss to them look even worse by comparison.
LSU Tigers: 9-0 (6-0 SEC, 1-0 Game of the Century)
by TheOtherAndrew on Nov 13, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
well, yeah, of course the whole resume counts
but unranked and #11 is a big difference. Boise at 15 and TCU in the low 20s maybe…
And I agree with Eggplant – the PI call was ridiculous.
Arguing about anything 20 and below seems trivial
but Notre Dame? I would rank TCU somewhere in the 20s, and leave out ND. I think my top 15 would be exactly the same.
I would have dropped Boise even if they had made that last second field goal? Did you see that outrageous pass interference call? I’m no conspiracy guy, but that was borderline “oh shit, the MWC’s national championship hopes are dead! Unless….” [throws flag five seconds late]
(formerly Gregatron)
Respect the bucket, son.
by Eggplant Wizard on Nov 13, 2011 5:54 PM CST reply actions
That call was atrocious
IT felt like a conference ref putting in the fix for their team. It was a horrible, horrible call. Right up there with Texas/Nebraska. You knew every close call was going to Boise.
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Worse part of that call...
…was the failure of the line judge to rule the ball uncatchable. The ref in the back doesn’t necessarily have a good angle on how high the ball was over the WR. The line judge should have provided help. I wonder if the fact that they had already thrown the flag made the line judge hesitant to provide help, or is it all done by the ref who makes the call.
Regardless, thank goodness Boise missed the kick and did not win the game because of the horrific PI call.
I think had they made the FG
there would have been some controversy, and they would have dropped in rankings. Probably not as far, but I’m sure they would have dropped.
Houston is now (deservedly) the number one scrub conference team.
(formerly Gregatron)
Respect the bucket, son.
by Eggplant Wizard on Nov 13, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Re: Houston
According to Sagarin, UH has the 123rd most difficult schedule this year. There are only 120 teams. This means that the Cougars have literally played a I-AA schedule, and if I had a vote I’d probably leave them out entirely. I just do not think it’s possible to show you’re the #9 team in the country with that kind of schedule. If the best team you’ve played is ranked #60, even if you’re undefeated the most you’ve proven is that you’re #59.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Nov 13, 2011 8:30 PM CST reply actions
I hear ya
But to play devil’s advocate, you can’t fault the players, they go out and play who’s on their schedule. They are looking solid, beat a bcs team that might just win their division, and have an experienced qb who is breaking records. I say give em a big boy bowl and see If they can hang
by ORtigerfan on Nov 13, 2011 11:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not "faulting" the players, I'm just trying to rank them accurately
I think people get too impressed by undefeated records, but an undefeated record doesn’t necessarily mean anything. UH is playing the cfb version of “Are you Smarter than a Fifth Grader?” So far they’ve proven they’re smarter than all the fifth graders on their schedule, but that doesn’t mean they deserve to get into Harvard.
For a recent example, see 2007 Hawaii, who played the easiest schedule in all of I-A,* went to the Sugar Bowl, and got beaten by Georgia so badly that Colt Brennan suffered internal injuries.
*Sagarin has UH’s schedule as #132 that year, and that’s after getting a boost from playing UGA. They really did beat nobody.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Nov 14, 2011 5:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This
It’s not the fault of Boise or Houston’s players that they do not play good teams. But it’s also not the fault of the big conference players that they play good teams and get to both earn good wins and have some extra losses. SOS matters and if you haven’t played ANYBODY then an undefeated record and a bunch of blowouts of high school teams just isn’t that impressive.
Really hope the answer to this riddle is "Shady's"
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Nov 14, 2011 9:29 AM CST up reply actions
meant to say "near" Constitution
not that I would know, but I was thinking of the Le Club de Gold
by haveagreatday on Nov 14, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
good call
Also needs mentioning that this is Janzen Jackson’s dad.
by janepriceestrada on Nov 14, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
random question from a Duck fan who has become a Les Miles’ fan this year:
who’d you rather play in NCG – Bama or Oregon?
who’d deserve another shot first?
personally, i want no part of LSU and would rather light up a crappy Big Ten team in the Rose Bowl.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
as a fan
Who wants to win another championship I’d prefer Oregon. I even live in Oregon and watch them every week but I just like the way we match against them better. That said, I think bama deserves the shot first even though you guys look like you’re rolling at top form
by ORtigerfan on Nov 15, 2011 1:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
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