Initial Impressions: LSU 41, Hogs 17
by Poseur on Nov 25, 2011 5:49 PM CST
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I'm at Posuer HQ at the Ranch this weekend again, so I've got unreliable internet so I will make this quick.
The Haters may officially bite me now.
Our "middling" offense went out and scored 41 points. It's the 10th time LSU has cleared 30 points and the 8th time that LSU has cleared 40. But yeah, the offense is a weak link.
With the game on the line, LSU's depth came through again. The ground and pound offense may not be exciting for those of you outside Tiger Nation, but it is brutally effective. by the fourth quarter, Arkansas practically flew up a white flag from their sideline.
Fresh legs won out again, and LSU's embarrassment of riches in the backfield paid dividends. As other teams get tired, we seem to get stronger. It is a credit to the team's depth and conditioning. You never know who the hero is going to be.
But this week, the hero was an old standby: the Honey Badger. T-Rex forced two fumbles and recovered one. He also had a huge 92-yard punt return at a time we desperately needed a big play.
Down 14-0, a lesser team would have panicked. But LSU looked destiny in the face and seized the moment. After going down by 14, LSU outscored Arkansas 41-3.
That's what champions do.
This was yet another statement win from a team that has taken the theme of this season to be the Year of Settling Scores. Previous LSU teams would have folded or even got involved in a dogfight. LSU just slowly and methodically strangled the life out of the Hogs, and won this game going away. LSU has left no doubt who #1 is, let other teams worry about #2.
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Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
Here ya go buddy, fron he
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
Let me try that again...Here ya go buddy, from The New York Times
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
We've got one more score to settle....
….with UGA. Mark Richt owes Les Miles one in the SECCG. And Miles is coming to collect next Saturday.
Forever LSU, 'cause that's how we roll.
If I may say a few words to Mr. Petrino
Ahem…“WE DIDN’T COME HERE TO PAINT.”
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Petrino is a DICK
He really showed his ass after the game when it came time to shake hands. I hope he never wins another game regardless of where he coaches. Did I mention he’s a DICK!!!
Deserves got nothin' to do with it...
by Tiger6367 on Nov 25, 2011 7:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dominance
Of the complete and utter variety.
This team has ridiculous amounts of swag.
by amiznit on Nov 25, 2011 6:23 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
poseur, I got the link from Twitter
But can’t find the article on the main page
by ORtigerfan on Nov 25, 2011 6:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Bossman has to take care if it
I barely have internet.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
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by Poseur on Nov 25, 2011 7:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I admit I got a bit nervous--started drinking some Jack Daniels/Rally beer or Mr. John Daniels for those who know him well...
and cursed a little in the thread but I settled down and hoped the Tigers would respond like they needed to if they were going to continue to be the great team they have been all year. They did, team effort—offense stepped up along with Badger and st when the D got roughed up a some which sparked the D to get back to their aggressive ways. Down 14-0, 41-3 LSU from there on, that is how a great team responds against a good opponent who was playing very well coming in. Undefeated regular season, first time for me—Tiger eye gazes East to Atlanta and UGA. Beat the Bulldogs!
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
More to come very soon, including Les Miles addressing the stadium after the win, but for now
Managing Editor/Chief Lackey-And The Valley Shook THE LSU Tigers Blog of the Week for 52,136 Weeks in a Row and Counting
by PodKATT on Nov 25, 2011 7:22 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I'm really glad I hung around
After the game to hear Coach Miles. The stadium was electric, and I think Dan Borne said that it was the 2nd largest crowd for an LSU game, only 21 short of being the largest crowd ever. All in all, a very great day to be a Tiger fan.
Just sit down, shut up, and cheer. That's your job as a fan.
by carlizle84 on Nov 25, 2011 8:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Did Petrino say...
“FU " toward the end of the game?
Sure looked like it and then he gave CLM a very brief hand shake.
by Displaced Tiger on Nov 25, 2011 8:05 PM CST reply actions
It looked to me like he said
“aww, f***k you, motherf***er”
He said the last word, certainly.
What a loathsome person.
You may outfit the Trolley.
by Man Mountain on Nov 25, 2011 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
That's what I thought he said
What a D bag
by Displaced Tiger on Nov 25, 2011 9:38 PM CST up reply actions
See my above comments.
Coach Petrino seems like he can dish it out but not take it.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 25, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
what a douche
"Dracula and LSU are at their best after the sun goes down." - ESPN
by Chinese Bandit on Nov 25, 2011 9:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
man, fuck him...
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Best Team in the Country
Oregon was supposed to beat us.
Mississippi State was supposed to challenge us.
West Virginia was supposed to be a test.
Florida was supposed to be tough.
Auburn was supposed to take advantage of our key players being out.
Alabama was supposed to be the best team in the country.
Arkansas was supposed to be able to move the ball on us like no one else could.
All of them failed. Most of them were run out of the stadium.
This team is GREAT.
Father. Husband. Lawyer. Nerd.
by Richard Pittman on Nov 25, 2011 8:16 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Now if we could please...
STOP talking about all the BCS chaos for a couple minutes (national media) and give the Tigers a little more air time. Each win and they look more and more like ‘01 Miami and that’s not even hyperbole.
CBS finally cancelled the LSU upset alert.
Good thing we dont read the paper, surf the web or watch TV. LSU would be 0-12.
by lsufanfrommobile on Nov 25, 2011 8:57 PM CST reply actions
I think we lost twice to Bama though
make that 0-13 ;)
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 25, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
Petrino can eat a dick for all I care
Really? Getting pissed at kicking a field goal? Miles should’ve dropped the hammer & pounded it again & scored a TD. Go back to the Ozarks, ya b1tch & take your ass-kicked team witcha, foo’!
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 25, 2011 9:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Couple things
I’m stunned; a lot of the comments from Tiger Nation indicate there actually existed some modicum of respect for Bobby Petrino prior to this. Dude’s a scumbag through and through. Just in case you need some evidence.
As for the team, what a glorious season. I’m now getting comments from my non-SEC friends, some of whom work in the sports business, wondering whether this LSU team posted the most dominant college football regular season of our lifetime, outside of 95 Nebraska. How absolutely unimaginable was this just a year and two months ago, vs Tennessee? I just feel so fortunate to be able to watch this team as it happens.
They're the Falcons, screw em. They were gonna fire him anyway.
01 Miami has to be in the conversation for greatest team ever.
I’m more interested in comparing this team to ’07 offense and ’03 defense.
something more important than football
Arkansas played their biggest game in decades, traveling on a short week, but with the terrible distraction of the death of a player, Garrett Uekman. Life is unfair, and football pales in comparison to this tragedy. No team should have to suffer that loss.
If they had played like they were flat, distracted, and depressed, it would have been understandable, and no one would have been justified in criticizing it. Maybe it did wear them down in the 4th quarter as we pulled away, but clearly in the first half, they played well. I think the players on that team showed impressive character just in being able to focus and play. So, despite any nasty stuff Petrino said, I tip my hat to the Arkansas team.
As for the play itself, our team is just amazing. We didn’t play well for the first 15-20 minutes. The defense was beaten for a couple drives. We had a turnover and lots of silly pre-snap penalties on offense. And then came the juggernaut. This team is ridiculously good. They haven’t had many on-field problems this season, and a 14 point deficit was clearly no big deal to them.
by uberschuck on Nov 25, 2011 11:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
That sir, is the most rec-worthy thing that I have read in a long time
Kudos to you
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
MUAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!
I love this team. I love this season. I love being an LSU fan. I love crushing the life out of Petrino’s whiny ass.
I was just trolling through RBR, and I have to say I love how they hate us. I love how they call all our players thugs, classless, clueless, Honey Badger is a dirty MFer…..on and on and on. One fan said “LSU and all the fans are anal leakage.” That, my friends, is a sign of…..anybody? SCOREBOARD. Nobody can piss you off like that who hasn’t beaten you. And of course the win took away any chance they had at the west.
It’s not often that you can crush the dreams of two fan bases in one day.
Except we were pulling for you
because an Arky win had as good a shot of knocking us down to third in the West as it did bumping us up to first, meaning the rematch we’ll secure today by roughing up the Barn couldn’t happen. I knew all along y’all were going to whip the Hogs and doing so only serves to make our OT loss look that much stronger to voters. Now, y’all go whip some UGA ass to further cement yourselves as the best team and we’ll see you in NOLA, aight?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Go back where you came from...
You had your chance and blew it. Not only did you un-win the game you un-won it in your own house. There are plenty of other one loss teams with far more class than Bama that deserve a shot. Go play in the Turd Bowl for all I care. I lived in AL for 15 months. Worst 15 months of my life. Paid my own expenses to move to Atlanta just to get the hell outta there. Other than that Mrs. Lincoln how did you enjoy the play?
Deserves got nothin' to do with it...
Is perceived class a new BCS metric?
I was unaware.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
It is clear now that the pendulum
is swinging again, the AP voters are already talking about awarding LSU the AP #1 to LSU BEFORE the BCS game, IF BAMA is selected to play in the BCS, the BCS computers have OSU as a solid # 2, if OSU beats OU, (and Bama doesn’t beat AU by 30) the human voters will probably go that way also. Then it would be the Capital CIty Bowl for Bama. That would be unfortunate, because I would love nothing better to hearing Bama’s excuses for two loses to LSU in the same season.
What?
LSU’s winning the AP title has nothing to do with the BCS. In fact, the better LSU looks, the better Bama’s chances of staying #2.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Of course LSU has to beat Georgia, to get there, but
Bama has to beat Auburn by at least 30 and HOPE that is enough, for the human voters to keep them in front of OSU (if OSU beats OU next week). LSU beating Georgia is not a given, nor the others. But if it goes according to predictions, Bama has to HOPE the human voters keep them in front of OSU. The pendulum of opinion is swinging against a rematch, remember, those human voters are HUMAN, they don’t all live in Tuscaloosa, they have to answer to their friends, family, neighbors, coaches and officials in the Conferences where they work, why they would vote 2 SEC teams into the BCS at the exclusion of another deserving one-loss team. Bama has to hope enough human voters have enough courage to vote for a one-unwin Bama and explain to their family etc., for the next year why they didn’t give another one-unwin team a chance. Certainly possible, maybe even probable, but not a CERTAINTY. Here’s hoping for the human voters have the courage to show little Nicky throwing tantrums and blaming others.
Changing their minds would require more explaining.
Bama’s Arky win is better than any of OSU’s, and that includes an assumed Bedlam win over a then three-loss OU. Obviously Bama’s loss is much better.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Nov 26, 2011 9:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
No it wouldn't
First, they would point to 2006.
Second, OSU would arguably have a better resume. The Big 12 and SEC are about equal this year and the Pokes would’ve played every Big 12 team while Bama didn’t play the Eastern powers. I believe, and the computers back me up, OSU played a much more difficult schedule.
Third, the loss is forgiveable given the tragedy in the week leading up to it. Voters could easily rationalize a mulligan.
Four, the sentiment against a rematch is quite strong and OSU is clearly the only other option.
Five, OSU will have a conference title. Bama won’t.
I don’t think a voter will have any problems justifying an OSU vote. None at all. And OSU doesn’t even have to pass Bama in the human polls, just be close enough for their computer advantage to take over.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
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by Poseur on Nov 26, 2011 10:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
#2 has never dropped this late without losing.
In 2006 #2 USC lost, leaving voters to choose between #3 UM and #4 UF. The margin between them was also much less than the lead Bama holds now.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Nov 26, 2011 10:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Poseur you're missing his point
They’re Bama. They trump everythang, PAAAWWWLLL
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 26, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody has to "explain" anything to anybody
Least of all a bunch of Bama message boarders.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Nov 26, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
I agree.
Apparently lioncity doesn’t.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Nov 26, 2011 11:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The main thing...
is we already know LSU can beat Alabama and at home to add insult to injury. Let’s see if anyone else has the giblets (Thanksgiving reference) to step into the Tiger’s lair.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it...
We already knew that.
That game proved one thing- that these two teams are dead-ass even. Performance v. common opponents supports this as well. LSU got the win and deserves the unanimous #1 ranking and all the accolades. Bama deserves to be #2.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Nov 26, 2011 11:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The only thing I was
trying to point out is 1) the obvious LSU has to beat Georgia 1st, to even get to the NC 2) Whereas last week it appeared that if LSU won out and Bama won out, it was a GIVEN that there would be a rematch, but now it appears that this is less of a GIVEN.
The difference between LSU and Bama is that Bama thinks it can beat LSU and LSU knows it can beat Bama.
I say LSU is going win or lose.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Nov 26, 2011 12:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Perceived has nothing to do with it.
Upon arriving in Montgomery before even sitting down I was beset upon on and forced to declare allegiance to the Barn or the Roid’s. I respectfully submitted my team was neither but rather the real Tiger’s of Baton Rouge. That was it, I was persona non grata from that day forward. I couldn’t get out of there fast enough. I suppose that having transferred from Boca Raton, FL to Montgomery, AL and the culture shock that ensued played a part in it as well.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it...
Montgomery's a shithole.
Has nothing to do with the BCS though.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Nov 26, 2011 9:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
But Montgomery is the center of culture in Alabama (I know, Alabama and culture, the ultimate oxymoron)
.
I mean, it’s home to the Alabama Shakespeare Festival.
.
.
Of course “Romeo, Romeo wherefore art thou Romeo?”
at the Alabama Shakespeare Festival would be:
“Row Mayo, whar in tha fart are yew?”
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and “Hark! What light through yonder window breaks?”
at the Alabama Shakespeare Festival would be:
“Hey! Whas tha light from that thar winder ova yonder?”
.
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
Hmm, seemed last week you were still hoping for an SEC title
Now you admit you were pulling for LSU so Alabama could get a free ride. Soooo basically you’re full of shit. Good to know.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 26, 2011 8:15 AM CST up reply actions
I said
I would prefer to win the SEC but that I was pulling for LSU because odds were good that an Arky win would knock Bama out of both. I didn’t see them dropping LSU past 2nd.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Nov 26, 2011 9:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I know, I saw they were mostly rooting for LSU
But that didn’t stop them from hating on us with a hard-on usually reserved for the Barn. After so much talk from Bama fans about how pathetic LSU is for thinking Bama hates them….cuz you know…Bama only hates UT and AU….we’re so desperate for somebody to care about us and all…….it’s just hilarious after all that to see so much venom spit our way.
Obviously I’m on record as hoping for Oklahoma State so we have a shot at a historic season and a claim to the greatest season ever in college football history. Playing Alabama again takes away that shot. However, if Alabama is selected for a rematch, I’ll just look at the positives. Apparently nobody in the country thinks we won that game, so we’ll just go prove it wasn’t a fluke. We took Bama’s best shot in Tuscaloosa, I didn’t see anything in that game to make me think they’ll fare any better on our turf. And on that note…..If I’m an Alabama fan, I’d be happy with a BCS bid and a 12 win season. Why suffer the pain of losing to lsu AGAIN? At least right now fans can claim they were really the better team. What will they have left to console themselves with when they lose again?
This is all 100% face value. I’m not trash talking or ragging on Bama or their fans. I honestly believe LSU would win a rematch, and I honestly don’t want one.
by MikeDeTiger on Nov 26, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
I’m fine with whoever they tell us to play. We will beat them.
I just hate how Bama fans are already assuming they are in. They are not. And if they do get in, it will be a gift. Don’t lobby for a gift, just say thank you. I really do think the human voters reevaluate their ballot if the Pokes win. Which is entirely their right.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
by Poseur on Nov 26, 2011 1:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
They are supposed to give their ranking
1-25 based on who they think is best, 2nd best, and so on. It is not “their right” to have an agenda.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Nov 26, 2011 2:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The problem with that line of thinking
is it assumes that voting somebody other than Bama #2 is part of some sort of agenda. Believe it or not, the cfb universe doesn’t revolve around Bama, or even the SEC. It’s awfully presumptuous to call out voters for not really believing how they arrange their ballots. It’s not Bama’s “right” to be put in the game.
Only Bama fans seem to totally disregard Michigan and Ohio State in 2006. Everybody KNEW they were the best teams. Everybody KNEW Florida was a lamb to the slaughter. But they went ahead and played the game anyway. Fact is, Michigan had their chance, and turns out, neither one of them were the two best teams in the country, as Florida and USC showed. How about 2008 when Florida and Alabama met in the SECCG as 1 and 2? Who else could stand up to Bama but Florida? Oh wait, Utah.
The bottom line is it’s nothing but an ASSUMPTION to say Alabama is definitely the second best team in the country. If we awarded teams things based on what we think…..why even play any of the games at all? Let’s just see who looks the best on paper and forego bowls, rivalry games, all of it? We KNOW alabama lost to lsu. People GUESS what kind of comparisons to draw about OSU and any other contenders.
We KNOW Oklahoma St. lost to Iowa State.
We KNOW Alabama is scoring 14 less a game but giving up 19 less; gaining 126 less yards a game but giving up 258 less.. We KNOW that Alabama played the consensus #1 to a tie through regulation. We KNOW that Alabama has beaten the highest ranked team between the two. Plus, most importantly, we KNOW that 98% of the voters think Bama is better based on their current votes. To change after a win over a decent OU team without its best player would be pushing an agenda, and I really don’t know how anyone could see it differently.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
of course you don't
College football has always been about the whole season. Cherry-picking one game is just that. I guess South Carolina was really better than Alabama in 2008. I guess Ole Miss was really better than Florida in 2008. I guess South Carolina was really better than Alabama last year. Better teams lose to inferior teams every year. The point is, who has the better overall season? Clearly, Alabama has the better loss than Oklahoma State (although you forget that OSU was on the road, lost in double OT, and was bummed out about the death of the coaches that day). But it’s folly to only look at losses. IF osu can beat OU, the computers are going to see that OSU has better wins and will have won their conference.
If Alabama is selected, Oklahoma State fans shouldn’t act like they were robbed. Once you lose, you lose the right to complain. They couldn’t taken care of business against ISU. I say the same thing to Alabama fans. If your team is bypassed, don’t act like you were robbed.
I personally think it’s dumb NOT to give OSU their shot. Alabama already had theirs and didn’t get it done.
by MikeDeTiger on Nov 26, 2011 6:14 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
So
OSU wasn’t bummed early in the game when they built that big lead, but they remembered the tragedy somewhere along the way and subsequently choked. Gotcha.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Oh, and
OSU, assuming they win next week, will have beaten one team (K State, assuming they move up)who finished in the BCS top 10. Arky will finish higher than they will.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Your posts add significant value
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Nov 26, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
I think you forgot your sarcasm font
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
That's a rec
But you can’t cure stupid
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
Oh shit, I forgot about..................SCOREBOARD!
Well, um, um, um,…..I guess the numbers do lie sometimes
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
LMAO
This guy is typical Bama logic.
Oklahoma St. “lost” (in 2OTs), Bama “tied through regulation.”
In the real world, it should read “Oklahoma St. & Bama lost.”
So, it’s playoff for Oklahoma St., it’s a double elimination tournament for Bama.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 26, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
No, the point is Bama's OT loss is better.
Yes, Bama lost the game, in OT to the consensus #1.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
No the point is we don't know who is better
Acting like we do is a lie. Okie St has a stronger SOS and better overall profile. I’m fine with them getting a shot. I’m also fine with Bama getting a chance. But to pretend we objectively know which team is superior us simply not so.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
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by Poseur on Nov 26, 2011 7:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Whatever you say.
Their biggest OOC game was either Tulsa or 4-8 Arizona, whoever you think is better. Besides the loss to ISU they also have a one-point win over unranked TAMU and had to fight like hell to barely beat KSU. Bama, like LSU, has rolled everybody they’ve played including #6 or #7 (guessing) Arkansas. The resumes are even at best if you believe the Big 12 is substantially better than the SEC. If you think they’re even, Bama’s is better by virtue of blowing everyone out and playing Penn St. Statistically Bama is easily better.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
No, the point is you're a Treauxll, Protofrog
pushing an agenda of all things too.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 26, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not a voter, I'm a fan.
And how have I trolled here?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Gee, I dunno
Maybe b/c I say so. It’s my opinion. It’s sort of like being a BCS voter. My vote is you’re a troll. It also might have something to do with pleading your BCS case in threads about an LSU-Arkansas game.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 26, 2011 8:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
...started by responding to a comment about Alabama.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Protofrog
But hopefully he will have grown in to a Froglet by the time we beat Bama again, so he’ll have legs to put his tail between!
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
But Miiiiiiiiiiiike!
Everyone knows that Bama was disappointed to be in the Sugar Bowl playing Utah, and that they lost their starting left tackle!
And while you make a highly intelligent case, I choose to ignore it, because I have NUMBERS! You see, statistics don’t lie, they tell the whole story. Hell, why do we even have to play the game?
Doesn’t matter though, cause we’re still going to claim the titles given to us by the Tuscaloosa Laundromat and by LuLu’s Bar-B-Que Emporium/Adult Book Store.
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
by andyj on Nov 27, 2011 5:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well, this was a reply fail to Protofrog's
We KNOW Alabama is scoring 14 less a game but giving up 19 less; gaining 126 less yards a game but giving up 258 less..
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
So they can't decide Bama isn't No. 2 without "having an agenda"?
Child please.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 26, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Make the case then.
Can’t compare stats, they’re in Bama’s favor. Can’t compare OOC slates, neither team played much but at least Bama played one decent team. The computers are giving the Big XII more credit than it deserves or OSU wouldn’t even be #3.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Oklahoma isn't a decent team? They'd beat the holy hell out of Penn State.
I don’t know who is better, but I DO know that the computers favor Oklahoma State for a reason. You may not agree, but your opinion is certainly no more valid than any other pollster.
The idea that, if they were to dominate OU in a week, voters could look at both resumes and make a decision based on their own judgement and reason. That’s what voters do. I also know that pretending that there’s NO case for it just makes you a ridiculous homer.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 26, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
K-State for that matter, would also probably beat Penn State. And at the very least is on par with Arkansas.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 26, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
I said OOC.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
They may not have a Penn State
But blowing out Arizona, and ULL and Tulsa teams that at least had winning records is more convincing that North Texas, Georgia Southern and Kent State.
And just because you don’t think much of the Big 12, doesn’t mean the voters can’t hold a different opinion.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 26, 2011 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't say I didn't think much of them.
I said the computers are giving them too much credit. Basically, it shouldn’t make a difference if your patsy games are Tulsa or North Texas if you’re competing for a title. Either Bama or Okie State would beat any of those teams. Bama hasn’t had a single close win- Okie State has two. The only explanation for voting them number 2 is that you think the Big XII is really that much better than the SEC. And I agree that Arky and KSU are similar. Bama crushed Arky by the same margin LSU did. Okie State scored with 2 mins. to pull out a close win vs. KSU.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Again, YOUR opinion
If the voters don’t share it, or YOUR agenda to get YOUR favorite team in the national title game, that doesn’t mean it’s not a valid opinion lol.
And “it shouldn’t make a difference if your patsy games are Tulsa or North Texas” is quite possibly the most self-serving line in all of your self-serving posts in this thread.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 26, 2011 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
You disagree?
Your SOS is currently ranked 25th toughest by Sagarin.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
And Mr. Sagarin's entiled to that opinion
I disagree, and fart in his general direction. But I don’t believe he has any sort of “agenda” lol.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 26, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
His is a computer poll.
They weight every game equally. You think any of the human voters care if you crushed Northwestern State instead of Kent State? Of course not. The possible agenda at play among humans is the “no rematch” contingent.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Actually
I do think crushing Kent State counts more for crushing NSU. Kent State is at least an FBS school.
But then, I’m not trying to argue the ludicrous idea that anybody who doesn’t think Alabama is No. 2 must have “an agenda” lol.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 27, 2011 8:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Monty Python
auto-rec
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
And your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it...
by Tiger6367 on Nov 27, 2011 6:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Bama obfuscation
Tadpole keeps trying to distract you from Bama’s whole resume. So let’s count their wins over top 25 teams in the BCS: two. And one of those is PSU, who very well might nor be ranked this week, which could drop their number of quality wins to one. OSU? They have four wins, if they beat OU. And it is debatable who has the best win — KSU or Arkansas. But the Pokes next three wins will all be better than Bama’s #2 win.
Acting like voting OSU ahead of Bama is some travesty is an indefensible position. I’m not opposed to a rematch, but I am opposed to pretending Bama is clearly #2 in the nation. I do believe OSU, if they win, has a better resume.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
by Poseur on Nov 27, 2011 10:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Bama only has 3 wins all season
Over teams with better than .500 records, regardless of ranking. OSU has 6, and may yet add to the total next week.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 27, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
exakitigly
I was just about to look that up. But you forgot to include their un-win over the number 1 team in the nation. You obviously have an agenda.
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
by andyj on Nov 27, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
The Big 12 is stronger this year from top to bottom, and Bama’s weak out of conference schedule is going to keep them out of the game if OSU beats OU.
which of course Billy,
has an effect on all of their stats…
Hardly.
Each team’s loss and margin of victory in their wins are key pieces of a resume, no?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Nov 27, 2011 5:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
not according to any of the computer polls
Including Jeff sagarin’s, which you touted above to make a point but ignored later on when it didn’t help you make another point.
by ORtigerfan on Nov 28, 2011 1:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think in both cases
I was pointing out flaws. If any human suggested that LSU had only the 25th toughest schedule they’d be ridiculed and dismissed. Likewise if they tried to suggest that squeaking by a team was just as good as whipping a team. Of course, I don’t know what you are referencing either.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
"The computers are giving the Big XII more credit"
The computers obviously have an agenda
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Nov 26, 2011 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
Nope.
Just not allowed to consider margin of victory, which is ludicrous.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
MOV is purely subjective
and is why the computers used to consider it, then stopped. Doesn’t account at all for: 1) taking your foot off the gas vs. teams keeping their foot on opponents’ throats and running up the score on teams vs. not doing it. 2) the biggie—differences in schedule. There’s simply not enough games in a 12-game season for 120 teams to definitely define themselves.
In fact, before the BCS, bowls were exhibition games, and the BCS never intended to change it. It is an exhibition of what the system deems to be the two best teams in the country. Unofficially, it was supposed to end split titles, but clearly it failed in that regard already (2003). “Best two teams in the country” is a collective opinion of voters and computers….not a mysterious agenda. And the “exhibition” part……obviously LSU and OSU would be a much better exhibition for the country to watch, because we haven’t seen it.
Honestly, there are arguments to be made for either side. I would just like to see you concede that, but I guess that’s asking too much. But if the opponent is LSU, then we already know that Bama had a shot. Okie State is nothing but a guess.
by MikeDeTiger on Nov 26, 2011 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
Let me say it another way
Say OSU wins, but Alabama gets the rematch. LSU edges out Bama again in the rematch and OSU blows the doors off of Michigan (or somebody) in the Fiesta Bowl. We’ll all be left no better than we started, we’ll feel like there’s still questions unanswered, and we’ll all feel cheated for watching the exact same LSU/Bama game again. You still can’t see that’s something people might want to avoid?
On the flip side, say Alabama edges out LSU. And that proves? That LSU are pretty evenly matched? That they’d win 5 out of 10 games versus one another? While we learn nothing about either team with respect to a worth opponent that didn’t even get a crack at either one of them.
And don’t say “they lost to a mediocre ISU.” So what. Don’t forget, in 2006, USC was also going ahead of Florida having lost to a mediocre Oregon State team….before they dropped the ball against UCLA in the final weekend. But it was going to be Ohio State vs. USC. And speaking of 2006…..I still hear nothing but silence as to the lesson it taught us all about assuming teams are superior and the wisdom of avoiding rematches, not to mention the fun of affording us true college football lovers games we haven’t seen before. Rematches are for the NFL. No thanks. I’ll keep college football, college football, thank you very much.
by MikeDeTiger on Nov 27, 2011 12:27 AM CST up reply actions
Say OSU wins, but Alabama gets the rematch. LSU edges out Bama again in the rematch and OSU blows the doors off of Michigan (or somebody) in the Fiesta Bowl. We’ll all be left no better than we started, we’ll feel like there’s still questions unanswered, and we’ll all feel cheated for watching the exact same LSU/Bama game again. You still can’t see that’s something people might want to avoid?
This would be a repeat of the same mistake the BCS made in 2003. Why would you put an 11-1 Bama team that did not even win it’s own division, and already lost to the #1 team, in over an #11-1 conference champion that comes from an arguably deeper conference, top to bottom. You rob college football fans of a good game, and you rob Oklahoma State of what would be the biggest game in the history of their program.
But more importantly, you rob us of the ability to see our favorite team destroy a 14th team this year.
by wadewilson on Nov 27, 2011 12:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You aren't "robbing" anything.
You are voting your ballot 1-25 based on who you think the best 25 teams are. Nothing else is supposed to come into play.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Obviously the voters didn't think Michigan was superior that year.
They were never voted #2 after the tOSU loss. This year voters overwhelmingly voted rematch as soon as Okie State went down.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
You know who can consider margin a victory?
A voter. Thanks for playing.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 27, 2011 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
That is correct.
But why shouldn’t the computers? If you’re worried about teams running up the score, cap it at 20 points or something. I don’t think there should be a bonus for winning by 50 instead of 40, but I damn sure think you should get more computer points for winning by 17 instead of 3.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
wow, i agree with the troll on something
MOV should be included – but capped at 3 touchdowns. Bielma and Kelly shouldn’t get bonus points for keeping the 1st string in against patsy’s – but beating teams down is better than squeaking by.
I ain't a troll, dude.
Thanks though.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I dunno ask the bowl/BCS proponents, I'm not one of them
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 27, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Ludicrous?
It’s inconceivable!
Head coach Les Miles of the LSU Tigers leads his team in their usual pregame warmup song "Head, Sheauxlders, Knees, and Teauxs." -Spencer Hall
wtb rec for mobile
Because this deserves one
by ORtigerfan on Nov 28, 2011 1:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I really wonder...
What might have been if we ditched Crowton a year or two earlier.
Stats be damned, there is something to be said for consistent offense.
"LSU's ability to eat the other team's soul is unparalled in my memory." -Aaron Chastain via Twitter
"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable of giving pleasure to thousands and all you can do is scratch it."
--Sir Thomas Beecham to a lady cellist.
Hairston was huge in the game...
How many touchbacks did he have on kickoffs? That took away a big potential sorce of “hidden” yardage from this.
And Wing was invisible because our O either scored, turned the ball over, or took a knee.
What a game. Geaux Tigers!!!
by Displaced Tiger on Nov 26, 2011 6:23 AM CST reply actions
Hairston was fiyah
I really enjoyed Jarvis Landry knocking the teeth out of the Arkansas returner who was foolish enough to take it out from six yards deep.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Nov 26, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Give Bama some credit
They almost looked as good as LSU today.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
...just like November 5!
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
If only y'all could find a way to be a bit better.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 26, 2011 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
Hopefully we will.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Please no more Bama talk...
We beat them already. If we play them again, we will beat them again.
While I find it flattering that they dedicated a whole day of blogging commenting on our beat down of Arky, they are not deserving of our time…even if they show up trolling over here.
by Displaced Tiger on Nov 26, 2011 10:55 PM CST reply actions
oh, but it warms my Tiger heart
to know that it’s gnawing at their soul.
Not only do I want a record season, but I’m a sick SOB…….I want them to live with that insanity-inducing “if only…..” more than I want to beat them again to shut everybody up. It will be like an itch they can never scratch, while I sleep peacefully for the rest of my life.
I might need help.
by MikeDeTiger on Nov 26, 2011 11:56 PM CST up reply actions
i think okie state should get a shot if they win out
but it would be immensely satisfying to beat Bama twice in one year.
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