Welcome Georgia Fans!
by Poseur on Nov 28, 2011 11:38 AM CST
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PrintI'm trying to gin up some hatred for Georgia, but I just can't do it. We may play in the same conference, but we're barely acquaintances. We hang out in the same social circles and all, and we've thrown a few pretty good games against one another, but this is not a heated and passionate rivalry by any stretch of the imagination.
Besides, I like UGA. Their mascot is cute and once attacked an Auburn player. Dawgsports is a great blog which I read every day despite not following UGA sports (we lawyers have to stick together, so I support T Kyle King's writings). They've got a cool logo. I like Athens. It's a pretty town and they've got a kick ass music scene. In fact, the greatest rock band currently working hails from Athens - the Drive-by Truckers. It pertains to nothing, but listen to this:
How can I hate that?
LSU and UGA have played 28 times in their history. The only team in the conference we've played less in South Carolina (18 times), and they weren't even in the conference until 1992. OK, we've also played Vandy 28 times, but I don't get worked up to play them either. In fact, from 1954 to 1977 LSU did not play Georgia one time. That's 33 years without a single meeting of two teams in the same conference.
When we're good, they're good. When we suck, they suck.
I have no rational reason for why this has occurred, but LSU and UGA seem to be on the same roller coaster since the late 80s. Don't believe me?
Before the Hallman Era, LSU's last SEC title was 1988. UGA actually had a better record that year, at 9-3, closing out the Vince Dooley Era. Both teams would then enter into their dark times. Neither of us like to talk about it, but the early 90s were largely a wasteland for both programs. Then came a false spirng, strangely in the same year, 1997. Dinardo brought us to 9-3, on the heels of a 10-2 year. Donnan brought UGA to 10-2, following it up with a 9-3 year. Neither coach could build on that success, though LSU flamed out far worse.
UGA brought on Richt in 2001, LSU hired Saban in 2000. Both teams returned to the SEC elite. LSU won a conference title in 2001, UGA won in 2002. The 2003-2005 games were matchups of the new powers of East and West, knocking Florida and Bama off their perches.
Then, both teams slumped again. LSU went 8-8 in conference from 2008-2009. UGA struggled through 2009-2010. Now, both teams won their divisions and are squaring off for the title. It is a strange phenomenon of the modern SEC: LSU and UGA must be good at the same time.
So I welcome the Dawgs. Playing UGA in the SEC title game means we are both ascendant again, and that's good news round these parts. In the SEC wars, UGA is not exactly an ally, but they aren't an enemy either.
Forget Hate Week. Let's party.
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guess I'll be president of the UGA Hate Committee
Some reasons:
1. They were extra special whiny and bitchy about 2007.
2. They ‘won’ the 2003 game everywhere but the scoreboard.
3. Blutarski over at DawgSports compared someone’s schedule this season to the Bataan Death March. Stupidity that large should be reprehensibly painful.
4. They get all bothered at the fact our first President burned half their state down in some war we had against the North.
5. They wear those red pants and talk trash about our fans’ characteristics.
nemo me impune lacessit
by LSUJOSHUA on Nov 28, 2011 11:54 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
I do like #4
Our first president burned your state to the ground.
Scoreboard.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
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by Poseur on Nov 28, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
First president? Washington? Jefferson Davis? Burned Georgia? Not even a mention of Sherman?
I AM SLOW-WITTED NORTHERNER AND NEED EXPLANATION PLEASE.
by HailVarsity on Nov 28, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
Sherman was LSU's 1st president
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"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 28, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
That is a quality list
The 2007 bitchiness alone is reason enough to summon up some hatred on Saturday.
by Big McLargeHuge on Nov 28, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Kind of surprised at how many of them aren't over 2007
Far as 03 goes, the SEC title game settled that.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 28, 2011 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
Hell, they aren't over 1980.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Actually, we've gotten over 2007.
The renewal of complaints stems from the whole Bama playing the the title without winning it’s division or conference. We’re not really complaining anymore about being left out, so much as the inconsistency.
by Swarles_Barkley on Nov 28, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
If Tennessee had been #1 that year
then there would be inconsistency.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I get the circumstances, as they have been preached about many times.
My problem is that with exact quotes coming from both Les Miles and Nick Saban (along with the media) in the past saying you must win your conference, it must be understandable that a fanbase of a team that was kept out, at least partly, due to that “rule” would be upset at the current landscape of the BCS system.
by Swarles_Barkley on Nov 28, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Can you provide a link
of Miles and Saban saying a team must win the conference……. I heard Saban said it but did not know Miles did.
My mistake on the Miles addition
But that doesn’t really affect my point since it’s Bama we’re talking about making the title game without winning the conference.
The subtle difference between saying, "well, they didn’t win the conference, so that’s one blemish on their record" and saying "this team didn’t win their conference, so they’re disqualified from contention" is the arguing point here.
I’m not suggesting Georgia should have been in the title game in 07, just that the made up rule (and make no mistake, they were using it as such) is what made UGA fans upset.
by Swarles_Barkley on Nov 28, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Blutarski must have been another blog, not dawgsports. I don't remember such a post. Please link.
Editor, "Dawgsports"
"The ball ain't heavy." Herschel Walker
Where the Devil Don't Stay
I can’t hate Georgia now. /goes to archive /blares said song
by Big McLargeHuge on Nov 28, 2011 12:01 PM CST reply actions
I find it hard to feel strongly towards any of the teams we don't play on a yearly basis.
UGA, UT, South Carolina… they’re just teams to me. Like when we played Arizona. I enjoy the competition and respect their traditions, of course, but I’m not all worked up with a specific animus towards the opposition like I am with UF, Auburn, and Alabama.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Nov 28, 2011 12:27 PM CST reply actions
Was it the Coates bathrooms
or the Middleton bathrooms?
Les Miles is my coach. You think you can show me the mouth of madness? I've worn madness' hat, and the fit was perfect.
by Matt 'n' The Hat on Nov 28, 2011 12:49 PM CST reply actions
Reply fail. See below.
Les Miles is my coach. You think you can show me the mouth of madness? I've worn madness' hat, and the fit was perfect.
by Matt 'n' The Hat on Nov 28, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
We might be thinking of different jokes
but I remember us having a running joke about tapping your toe in the third floor Middleton bathroom while I was attending, which happens to be the same time frame.
Les Miles is my coach. You think you can show me the mouth of madness? I've worn madness' hat, and the fit was perfect.
by Matt 'n' The Hat on Nov 28, 2011 12:54 PM CST reply actions
For David Pollack, the joke was Coates
I remember because at the time I’d never heard that story before. With Tebow it was Middleton because the Reveille had done a story on those bathrooms literally the week before Florida came to campus.
By the way, did y’all know David Pollack and David Greene were roommates? And played Pop Warner football together? (actually that comment is more of a Verne Lundquist joke than a Georgia one, but whatevever)
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Any information on Pollack's motor?
I have no clue how it runs
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 28, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
The worst part about the "motor" thing
Is that when his pro career was unfortunately ended, EVERYBODY made the same joke.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 28, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Please explain
the Coates’ bathroom comment/joke for those of us who don’t get it.
Bathrooms in the Coates Hall basement, at various times over the decades
Has been reported as a glory hole. Ditto the Middleton Library bathrooms.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 28, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Ok so the joke just moved.
I remember distinctly in 05 the Middleton joke and always wondered where it had originated. Ah, fun times at LSU.
Les Miles is my coach. You think you can show me the mouth of madness? I've worn madness' hat, and the fit was perfect.
by Matt 'n' The Hat on Nov 28, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it's hard to hate UGA, I agree.
I mainly just respect them. And root like hell for them when they play Auburn.
(formerly Gregatron)
Respect the bucket, son.
by Eggplant Wizard on Nov 28, 2011 1:57 PM CST reply actions
Funny...
we UGA fans root like hell for us against Auburn too.
by Swarles_Barkley on Nov 28, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
Go be snarky somewhere else
"Dracula and LSU are at their best after the sun goes down." - ESPN
by Chinese Bandit on Nov 28, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
I think he's just teasing a bit
let’s save the barbs for thems what needs ’em.
by haveagreatday on Nov 28, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
Are we not supposed to be snarky here?
Uh oh.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
Why so touchy?
I chuckled.
(formerly Gregatron)
Respect the bucket, son.
by Eggplant Wizard on Nov 28, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
Haha.
Absolutely no snark intended. I was just trying to be…uhh…clever? Just a joke.
by Swarles_Barkley on Nov 28, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
It was snarky.
But snark is welcome here! You’re fine.
(formerly Gregatron)
Respect the bucket, son.
by Eggplant Wizard on Nov 28, 2011 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
Well it wasn't negative snark
We’re cool with LSU, not trying to ruin that.
by Swarles_Barkley on Nov 28, 2011 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Besides
you were hating on Auburn. That = win.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 28, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
Just
Making sure it stays at least semi friendly. No harm no foul.
"Dracula and LSU are at their best after the sun goes down." - ESPN
by Chinese Bandit on Nov 29, 2011 1:46 AM CST up reply actions
LSU vs UGA
Attended LSU ‘64 – ’67. Got tossed. Thirty five cent Falstaff’s, girls and bingo pinball took precedence over studying. I lasted 5 semesters (3 football seasons). It matters not that I graduated elsewhere I am now and always will be a Tiger. On the other hand I’ve lived all but two of the last thirty seven years in GA. Our daughter is a UGA grad so this week is a rough one for us.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it...
Familiarity breeds contempt
And just not having played them all that often makes it tough to hate them.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
agreed
I think I speak for us all when I say that we want LSU to salt the … uh … turf in ATL and I want the scoreboard to break from our dominance and I want the Georgia Dome to look like Vaught-Hemingway on November 5, but, hate them, no (or at least not yet).
by haveagreatday on Nov 28, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
I lived in Georgia for 18 years and am here to tell you they have the meanest fans in the SEC. Their fans are down-right ugly. I know they think they have a chance to win, but we will kill them. And I won’t regret it for a minute.
You'd be mean too
If you had to play Auburn and Tennessee every year.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
I think you’ll win.
You might struggle at first against their D, which has vastly improved over last year as well as the first 2 games this year. Even then 2-3 TDs they gave up against SC were not on them, while 2-3 more earlier in the year their back was against the wall thanks to turnovers.
I think you either win close a one, or you eventually wear them down, get some big plays, and pull away.
Good luck!
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Nov 28, 2011 4:09 PM CST reply actions
First and foremost,
I wanna say good luck to both teams. I think it will be entertaining to watch this title match. I understand SEC outsiders having the opinion they do about the rematch for the BCSNC, but why do the majority of LSU fans feel that way too? If the shoe was on the other foot, 98% of ya’ll would be clamoring for a rematch as we are. It would be a lie if you said otherwise, lol.
Yes, we have thirteen....
I'm sure we would all want a rematch (I certainly would)
but that doesn’t mean we would be right. I was vehemently against a rematch in 2006, when I was relatively neutral if not biased against the Big 10. For my part, I feel like I’m just being consistent. I don’t particularly care for a rematch, but I really don’t like two teams from the same conference in the title game, or a team that didn’t win its conference in the title game (I know it’s happened before, but I personally think both of those times were mistakes as well). There are good arguments for Bama in the title game, but there are good arguments against it as well. I don’t see why most of the Bama fans seem completely unwilling to even accept some of those arguments as having any validity, and instead just call everyone who disagrees with them an idiot.
My idea is that every specific body strives to become master over all space and to extend its force (--its will to power:) and to thrust back all that resists its extension.
by Yail Bloor on Nov 28, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And if the shoe were on the other foot
Bama fans would probably feel the same way LSU fans do, and would be completely justified in pointing to the regular season result. It works both ways, and this would be an unprecedented situation for either team.
I don’t particularly care who LSU has to face in New Orleans, and I’m on record as anti-rematch since before Nov. 5. But some of your cohorts in other threads seem to think that there’s nobody else with a claim and sorry, but that’s not the case, just because it serves your own argument. And, be honest, if the rankings were reversed and Bama weren’t sitting in the catbird seat to GET the rematch, I’m pretty sure Bama fans would feel pretty differently as well.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 28, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
My position before the game
was there should be a rematch unless
1) the game was a blowout
2) one or both of us have 2 losses
3) an AQ team other than LSU or Bama ran the table
4) there is a 1-loss AQ team that is a really strong team
This was my position before the game, immediately after, now, and next week even if Georgia wins, which I don’t think they will.
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Nov 28, 2011 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Or if OSU wins.
But I ’ll try to be open-minded.
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Nov 29, 2011 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
My position BEFORE the LSU-Bama game
The LSU-Alabama game in two weeks is going to easily be the most hyped game of the year, and one of the most hyped regular season games of the BCS era. #1 and #2 don’t play each other in a virtual elimination game all that often.
And make no mistake, this is an elimination game. I’m sure the losing team will have its partisans advocating for a national title rematch, so let me make my position clear before we know the winner and the loser: The loser of this game should not be in the national title game if the winner of this game is invited.
The only reason we put up with this ridiculous BCS system is the Every Game Counts line – and if there is a rematch, then clearly every game does not count. There is simply no way the BCS is going to expose themselves to that kind of embarrassment. There will be no rematch.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
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by Poseur on Nov 28, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
prescient stuff there, Poseur
I haven’t made up my mind on the merits of the rematch yet (though I bet you a solid quarter that it takes place). There are good arguments for and against, many of which are on display here, which all depend on assumptions, not only about who won what and what the voters think, but about the whole purpose of the BCS and its claim to validity. I think I’ll be much more comfortable throwing my meaningless two cents in after this weekend. Three things I know right now -
First, if the SEC championship somehow becomes percieved as a disadvantage or a distraction, then we, as a conference, should withdraw from the BCS. The SECCG should be THE goal with everything else coming second. Remember, we s’posed to be SEC.
Second, I do not blame the Bammers for making their case. My wife says I didn’t talk for two days after Arky in 2007 (I couldn’t say since I have blocked it out). I remember running through the streets of ATL after WVU lost. I WOULD appreciate it if every thread did not dissolve into a discussion of Bama’s case for making it to NOLA. Make your points, move on and remember that you are having an internet argument and all that entails.
Third, this LSU team has the chance to be legendary and I think a rematch would solidfy that legend. We have already witnessed the greatest LSU team to ever take the field, but I think a win in a rematch would push them into the pantheon of great teams, right up there with ’95 NU and ’01 Miami. If that goes through the Bammers, then so be it.
by haveagreatday on Nov 29, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Alabama had their shot
I agree with those who say that, because there are no playoffs, regular season games should be, in some sense, elimination games. Alabama had their shot, they shouldn’t get another. However, as Alabama played LSU to a tie in regulation, and all other contendors lost to lesser teams, clearly no other team comes close to these two. I am looking forward to this “rematch”, hoping that LSU wins again and leaves no doubt.
ps
The one thing that does bother me about the rematch is that Alabama only has to win one of two to be National Champions but LSU has to win two of two. Regardless, as soon as the game ended on November 5, I no longer had a strong objection to a rematch and actually began looking forward to it. GoTigers! GoSEC!
Well,
I understand the arguments and by no means belittle anyone over their opinion. It’s just that the whole point of the season is to get that chance to bring home the crystal ball. Even if Bama loses, I personally would sleep better at night knowing we had our chance in the title game than watch somebody else get bludgeoned by LSU. Sincerely wish LSU and Georgia good luck and an injury free game next weekend though.
Yes, we have thirteen....
Oh Bama's had a chance
Regardless of whether there’s a rematch or not, Bama’s had a chance at the championship.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 28, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Look,
for whatever reason, you don’t seem accept the thought that maybe Bama is the 2nd best team in the country and that’s fine. Remember, true Nat’l Champs will beat whomever and whenever…and there is gonna be what-if’s and all that non-sense no matter LSU’s opponent in the NC game.
Yes, we have thirteen....
by AlltheGreatQBs on Nov 28, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
We can accept that Bama is maybe the 2nd best team in the country.
In fact, they’re PROBABLY the 2nd best team in the country. Bama fans, however, can’t accept that maybe (just maybe) Oklahoma State is the 2nd best team in the country. No one knows for sure, because you haven’t played each other. The only thing we know for sure is that LSU beat Bama. We don’t know how Okie State stacks up against either team.
My idea is that every specific body strives to become master over all space and to extend its force (--its will to power:) and to thrust back all that resists its extension.
Yail,
well I am hoping your argument will be moot come this saturday as Oklahoma beats Okie St. Not sure if it will happen, but I have a good feeling about it.
Yes, we have thirteen....
by AlltheGreatQBs on Nov 28, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, I have to 'accept' it?
I can’t think Okie State has an argument at all? Are you actually listening to yourself?
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 28, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Oklahoma State
has one more chance to state their case. But I don’t think they’re as balanced as Bama. However, Andy Staples at SI makes the case OSU played a tougher schedule.
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Nov 28, 2011 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
They have.
At least twice as many wins over teams with winning records as Alabama, and it’ll be more if they beat OU. However, they have to actually beat OU.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 28, 2011 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
you keep repeating that stat.
But what are these teams?
Louisianna Lafayette
Tulsa
7-4 Texas, who will probably be 7-5 saturday.
7-5 Mizzouri
The only real decent teams on that list of teams with a “winning record” are Baylor and Kansas State. Oklahoma would make another.
Basically, it’s going to be 7 bowl teams for bama and 8 for OSU. So this “twice as many wins over teams with winning records” sounds impressive, but it basically means that they have a couple more 7-5 teams as opposed to 6-6 teams. Whoopedie do.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
Again, a better record is still a BETTER RECORD.
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it untrue.
Is Okie State better than Bama? Neither of us know that, but if the voters factor schedule into their thinking, there’s no disputing who played the tougher one.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 28, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
We've established upthread...
… OSU played better patsies than Bama. Here, you are admitting the middle of OSU’s schedule is better than Bama’s (y’all only played Auburn on that tier). So it relies on the top of your schedule being so much tougher — and Bama beat Arkansas and PSU while OSU beat KSU, Baylor, and OU. So the top of OSU’s schedule is stronger, if barely.
So if the top of OSU’s schedule is better, and the middle, and the bottom — doesn’t that mean OSU played a better schedule than Bama.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
Sure, I’ll give you that it’s slightly better. But the problem with OSU is that they haven’t been consistent. They struggled to beat some mediocre teams. They lost to a bad team. They look like they are about on the level of Arkansas.
Bama (or LSU) could probably go 100-0 against any slate of 6-6 or 6-7 teams. We’ve totally dominated ALL of the competition except for each other. This is what people are seeing. There’s 2 dominant teams— LSU and Bama. Then there’s the rest. That’s why we are going to be in the BCS game. If OSU wants to be considered an elite team, then don’t lose to a team that you are a 30 point favorite over. Sorry, but you aren’t going to convince me that they are better than Alabama or more deserving because they beat a 7-5 team and bama beat a 6-6 team when they are losing to Iowa State and squeaking by Texas A&M.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
Or you could throw a dud & lose to Louisiana-Monroe
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 28, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
Been there, done that.
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Nov 29, 2011 12:33 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh we're aware we won't convince you
Never said we were trying. However, the fact remains that just because YOU do not believe OSU has a case for #2, does not mean that they do not HAVE one. And the woulda/coulda shit doesn’t matter. What DOES matter is that they’re 10-1 (with a good shot at 11-1) with a schedule that, by any measure, was more difficult than the one Alabama played.
Could they beat Alabama? Maybe, maybe not. But they still have a case for inclusion, and clearly some of the voters agree because they gained points in both polls despite being idle this weekend.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 28, 2011 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
They should have gained points due to a team in front of them losing (arkansas). Doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with Bama.
Obviously Bama vs OSU is going to come down to an opinion and people’s criteria and considerations are going to vary. You’re stating the obvious.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
We’re stating the obvious because you and Tadpole have come here (in a thread that doesn’t even have anything to DO with Bama) to spew your self-serving bullshit, and belittle anybody who thinks OSU has any sort of case.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 29, 2011 8:10 AM CST up reply actions
Well, I hadn't said a word about it in this thread
but their head coach clearly agrees with 90% of the voters because they lost to their conference’s Vanderbilt. Every game counts.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Well
Every game counts.
If that’s the case, there’s no point in playing the title game if LSU beats Georgia lol.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 29, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
You're right there.
Damn BCS is making you play again. Bastards.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I think if Bama plays in the BCSNC
Every bama fan should buy Gundy a fruit basket.
If he were my coach, I’d have absolutely exploded after he made those comments. If I were his boss, he’d have been fired before the press conference was over.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Les has charm. Petrino has none." -Pat Forde, Yahoo Sports
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples, SI
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton, Dr. Saturday
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
by LSU Jonno on Nov 30, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Go back and look
Neither of us initiated discussion about alabama.
And I don’t recall belittling anyone on your site.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
Really?
That’s not you 6 comments in to a post about the ARKANSAS game? You two have been trolling this site non-stop since Saturday.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 29, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
Uh… first comment on that article was a huge block of text by one of your posters going on and on about how you beat us and we already had our shot at a championship.
Whatever. I’ll leave. Cya in the BCS.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
Tadpole's not a Troll
I think he’s wrong, but he’s not a troll.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Les has charm. Petrino has none." -Pat Forde, Yahoo Sports
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples, SI
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton, Dr. Saturday
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
The only team that can legitimately say they didn't have a chance is Houston.
Good luck in Atlanta, and see ya in New Orleans!
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
my bad,
guess my comprehension skills are sucky today. Just realized what you actually typed instead of what my eyes read, lol.
Yes, we have thirteen....
by AlltheGreatQBs on Nov 28, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, we still do.
Tuscaloosa was not for a championship.
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Nov 28, 2011 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
Um, it was an SEC game, and therefore factored into
The SEC Western Division Championship, which decides who gets to play for the SEC Championship. So it very much was for a championship.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Nov 28, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
My bad.
I thought you meant national championship. And based upon my misunderstanding, I wasn’t clear in my response. The LSU-Alabama game was not for a championship in and of itself, even if only for an unofficial championship, such as the Iron Bowl for the so-called Alabama state championship. But the results factor in determining the Western Division Championship, which factors who can play for the SEC Championship. Good luck. I think you’re better than Georgia.
However, we still have a shot at the national championship—not ″had,″ but ″have.″
Should OSU be your opponent, I’ll pull for LSU because they are SEC and because they are the better team. OSU had better make a game of it.
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Nov 29, 2011 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
Shockingly, Kornheiser had some serious love for LSU on PTI
Wilbon spouted his normal CFB idiocy.
My idea is that every specific body strives to become master over all space and to extend its force (--its will to power:) and to thrust back all that resists its extension.
I Think It's Dawg Fans...
who need to say “Welcome,” since you’re coming to our state. But the sentiments are appreciated and returned from this ol’ Dawg. Some of the oooolllddd timers may remember a time when the Dawg-Tiger thing got pretty ugly—in fact, my understanding is that’s why there was a 33 year break; something about Tiger fans storming the field in Athens to take down the goalposts and Dawg fans defending it with bleacher boards (some containing nails)!
But them’s the old days, and in current days, we share at least 2 annual hate fests (UF and AU), know how to party, have good guy coaches (I, for one, have no problem at all with Les Miles or any other coach talking up his team for a shot at a title), run clean programs and don’t wear orange, so I too look forward to a hate-less week. And whether the whole BCS thing makes sense or not, I’ll be rootin’ for y’all if you do make it to a national title game, win or lose this Saturday.
speaking of good guy coaches
I lost the ability to really hate UGA when I saw that Richt ESPN special on his adopted children. I’m sure you’ve seen it, but for those that haven’t (I can’t find a valid link on ESPN), be forewarned, it will get super-super-Lubbock-in-August levels of dusty in here.
by haveagreatday on Nov 28, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
The 1935 UGA-LSU game spawned the old scoreboard. Apologies for length.
A near-perfect LSU Tiger team came to Athens in mid-November of 1935 along with 2,000 of its supporters (a total of 20,000 would be in attendance for the game), 1,200 of which were ROTC cadets from the school.
The visiting throng would not be disappointed as LSU blanked the Bulldogs 13-0; the first touchdown scored on a 95-yard run by Jess Fatherree “on a variation of the old ‘Statue of Liberty’ play.” Reportedly, the margin should have been much worse as the Tigers had a 358-61 advantage in total yardage and 15-2 in first downs.
As the legend goes, more than 1,000 LSU cadets stormed the field as soon as the game ended with intent to tear down one, maybe even both, of the goal posts. This action was certainly not welcomed nor anticipated by Sanford Stadium. When the stadium had been built more than six years earlier, based on good behavior by spectators in the past, expensive metal goal posts were constructed instead of ones made of wood, assuming they would not soon be destroyed and needing to be replaced.
Nonetheless, the UGA students protected their uprights and chased the cadets all the way to the train station on College Avenue. Legend has it that the Bulldog backers grabbed boards from a nearby construction site in defense of the goal posts… thus, the logo of a Bulldog holding a board atop of the old scoreboard.
However, UGA icon and historian Dan Magill has written that the unruly Tigers were chased to the station with not boards, but miniature Hanna baseball bats given away at the game. Magill adds that he, at 14 years old, was even along for the chase, brandishing a bat himself.
Now broadcasting from atop Lookout Mountain.
by Silver Britches on Nov 29, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I had not heard that story. good stuff.
assuming they would not soon be destroyed
There are two constants regarding the nature of LSU’s fanbase – they will bitch about the coach even as he takes them to unprecendented heights (I working on an invention to punch radio-show callers through my car stereo even now) and they will break shit. Your shit, their own shit, somebody else’s shit, doesn’t matter. I suspect that the second law of LSU fandom might have been revealed on this date.
by haveagreatday on Nov 29, 2011 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Bama fan here, and I have a hard time hating either team in this game
I like both of your head coaches. One’s a saint and one’s just cute and funny. Both were on the hot seat recently, and now both are going to the SEC title game. I think LSU wins considerably because they’re just too good. Georgia in a couple of years should be back in the upper echelon, it’s just going to take a bit of time I think.
However, if I was assured that LSU would drop no further than #2 in the BCS (assuming Bama’s still in the top 2), I would pull for Georgia all the way just to see 3 teams in the BCS and bring all that money back to the SEC…….and piss off every other conference in the nation even more in the process.
One bit of consolation for those other conferences if the LSU-Bama rematch happens as expected, is that for the first time in history an SEC team will actually lose in the BCS title game. Only problem is, we’d still clinch 6 in a row.
Good luck on Saturday Tigers, and stay healthy!
The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his. ~General George S. Patton~
Great point about both coaches being on the hot seat recently
Richt as recently as this September. SEC fanbases aren’t what you’d call forgiving.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Nov 28, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
I think Georgia
will be back in the SECCG at the minimum next season. Our defense is coming back virtually intact (if you believe what some of the underclassmen are saying).
It’s all about the Green Notebook (or, GNB if you’re familiar with the goings-on over at Dawgsports).
Editor @ Dawg Sports. 3rd degree Red 'n Black Belt.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
I don't hate Georgia
I always sort of root for them in their division. Certainly always root for them against Auburn. I am excited about this game though. They’re a stout team, and the SEC Championship is always a big game. Confrence championships mean a lot and I’m awfully proud we’re back to Atlanta!
I don't hate y'all, either.
How can I? You beat Florida just about every year, even when they’re good.
You’ve got a gawl-darn kick-ass Australian punter who taunts said Gators. That’s quality damn recruitin’ right there, my friends.
Your coach is more interesting than The Most Interesting Man in the World.
He’s interesting…but he’s no Les.
I do hate Marc Curles. That one still burns for all the wrong reasons.
Can I get a good Etouffee recipe from somebody while I’m here? I’ve got a source on some crawdads.
Editor @ Dawg Sports. 3rd degree Red 'n Black Belt.
"If we score, we may win. If they never score, we'll never lose."
-Erk Russell
by DavetheDawg on Nov 28, 2011 6:19 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd, the whole post
How can I? You beat Florida just about every year, even when they’re good.
You’ve got a gawl-darn kick-ass Australian punter who taunts said Gators. That’s quality damn recruitin’ right there, my friends.
hehe, come get me bro!
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
You beat Florida just about every year, even when they’re good
not really a true statement….at least not since the 70s
Despite LSU being our annual rival from the western division, I still find it difficult to hate LSU. LSU is my favorite road trip and the Tigers are probably my second favorite SEC team. I’m also a big fan of the Hatter. I didn’t have a problem with Wing’s “celebration” and didn’t think it warranted a penalty. It thought it was pretty mild for a punter after making that kind of play.
I also think LSU fans get a bad rap regarding their treatment of visiting fans. I’ve never had anything short of a blast in Baton Rouge – even this season when we were drubbed.
Still a Gator, even if we're FSU's bitches.
Right back at ya
I love Florida fans. I think they are a lot like LSU fans – loud, boisterous, probably drunk, and out for a party. Both fan bases expect their teams to be good as well. I’ve got nothing against UF.
Auburn, however, can go suck a gas pipe.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
by Poseur on Nov 30, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for Auburn suckage.
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@NCThom
Go 'Dawgs!
Anybody who is old enough to remember watching Herschel Walker play
can not hate the Dawgs. I only hate Georgia when we play them, but that’s only b/c I hate every opponent on game day.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 28, 2011 11:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
NOTE TO TV PRODUCERS, INTRODUCE LES MILES TO THIS DOG AND WATCH ANTICS ENSUE:
by HailVarsity on Nov 28, 2011 11:10 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
PS If Les pats that dog on the head...
…it will be the nicest thing he does to Georgia all day!
by HailVarsity on Nov 28, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Auto rec for one of the great moments in SEC history
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 28, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed.
This pic alone is why I can’t hate UGA
(formerly Gregatron)
Respect the bucket, son.
by Eggplant Wizard on Nov 29, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
LSU is my second favorite SEC program.
I’ve got LSU cousins out there in Baton Rouge. And I sat in your student section as a 7th-grader in 1978 when Lindsay Scott returned a kickoff 99 yards for a TD. Good times.
And I’m proud that UGA is the only SEC program with a winning record against LSU under Miles. And regardless of Saturday’s outcome, we still will be the only SEC program that doesn’t have a losing record. (Feel free to double-check my facts there, but I’m pretty sure that’s accurate.)
I live just a few blocks from the Dome. Have fun while you’re here. I’ll likely run into some of you.
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@NCThom
Go 'Dawgs!
by NCT on Nov 29, 2011 8:38 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Right back at you NCT
My first impression of UGA fans was as a student in 2003 when we played you guys in Death Valley.
After the game (which was probably heartbreaking for you guys), every UGA fan I came across told me, “good game, we’ll see you again in ATL”. I’ve never forgotten that.
I made the trip to Athens in 2009 and had a great time. We chatted with a lot of UGA fans at the Varsity after the game, and we traded notes how rare it was for two historically good SEC programs to not hate each other.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Les has charm. Petrino has none." -Pat Forde, Yahoo Sports
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples, SI
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton, Dr. Saturday
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
Next visit to Athens ...
You definitely should hang out downtown. I don’t think we’re in any position to give LSU fans lessons in having a good time, but we do know how to do it. And as SEC college towns go, downtown Athens is almost comme un petit vieux carré.
Editorial Staff, Dawg Sports, SB Nation's Georgia Bulldogs weblog.
@NCThom
Go 'Dawgs!
Here's to a good one.
I think we’ve got a few wrinkles and players that will proove challenging for LSU (and Les’s voodoo magic has to run out sometime, right?), but I’ve got nothing but respect for your guys and the quality of your game. I hope that those of you making the trip have a fantastic time.
by first and thom on Nov 29, 2011 10:08 AM CST reply actions
Interesting to note
That the number of tidee posts on an LSU vs UGA thread outnumbered LSU or UGA posters. They can’t help it, perhaps they are overcompensating for something.
by lsufanfrommobile on Nov 29, 2011 10:41 AM CST reply actions
Saban short joke goes here?
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@NCThom
Go 'Dawgs!
Eureka!!!
Just scored two seats for the game on Sat. Nose bleeders but what the heck. Going with my UGA grad daughter. Should be interesting. Can’t wait to post from the game. Love this team.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it...
by Tiger6367 on Nov 29, 2011 1:55 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I think you will actually be surprised
I have been up there 3 rows from the top in the Georgia Dome and they aren’t bad seats. That stadium is well done and being there for the SEC championship is a damn good time. Make sure you are loud – I’m worried that they might outnumber us by a wide margin
Been There...
Was at the ‘01 game when we cleaned TN’s clock. Sitting among a bunch of TN fans. Boy were they pissed. Thought they were headed to the BCSNCG but forgot to show up for the game. The Tiger’s did beat that ass. I think we were in the upper deck then and yes, the seats were decent. I try to get there whenever they play in the Dome be it SEC Championship or Peach/Chick-fil-a Bowl. This one will be special though attending with my daughter.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it...
absolutely correct about the GA Dome
There isn’t a bad seat in the house. As an Atlantan, I’ve had seats all over the Dome and all of them are no wrose than decent. I’ve even sat in the corner – last row up against the concrete “backrest” and it was fine.
Do you know what section you are in?
One more tip – drive there and just pay the parking fee (but get there early, the lots fill up quick). Do not take the train. If you don’t have a tailgate set up just cruise the Blue or Yellow lots and look for fellow fans,
Hope you have a blast in our fine city.
Still a Gator, even if we're FSU's bitches.
I've always felt that the Dome was too tall.
I prefer for the upper-level seating to be lower but further away from the field laterally than way up high; at least then the players don’t look like ants. The acoustics in there are great though.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
agreed
I’ve always felt an instinctive need to lean backwards so I don’t fall onto the field.
by haveagreatday on Nov 30, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
I prefer the steep grade
I don’t mind the bird’s eye view.
I sat pretty close to the last row in the corner this season in Death Valley. It was hiiiiiigh. And windy too. It was bad enough that yall were whipping our ass – but then we had hot dog wrappers smacking us in the face too!
Still a Gator, even if we're FSU's bitches.
I was in the lower deck, about 20 rows up, in the corner of the endzone for the UNC game...
I did not enjoy those seats.
I’ve been a few other times though and if you are high enough up, I would agree, all decent seats.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Les has charm. Petrino has none." -Pat Forde, Yahoo Sports
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples, SI
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton, Dr. Saturday
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
To be fair
Low corners are generally the worst in any stadium. The angles are just awful from those vantage points
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Dec 1, 2011 2:41 AM CST up reply actions
word
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Les is going to show you how he has Moves Like Jagger" -Tiger on the Mountain, Track'em Tigers
"Les has charm. Petrino has none." -Pat Forde, Yahoo Sports
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky, Track'em Tigers
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples, SI
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton, Dr. Saturday
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
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