Sometimes It's the Small Things, This Time It's the Big Things
Our idiot beat your genius. Again.
One of these days, people are going to realize that Les Miles is a pretty good football coach. Hopefully, it's not any time soon, because teams keep underestimating Miles, only to be left shaking their heads. you can shake your head and complain about "luck" only so many times before it's just an excuse to distract you from the fact you got taken advantage of by the Mad Hatter yet again.
We tend to think of football genius in terms of tactics. Billy does a great job here of breaking down specific plays and how the diagram translates to the real world. The pretty playcall still has the ability to impress, but we've learned at least one lesson from the Crowton years: decision making trumps pretty play calls.
It wasn't those diagrams or even good play calls which won the game. No, it wasn't luck either. It was good decision making. After the break, let's look at the decisions which turned the game.
Les puts the passing game up on blocks.
Jarrett Lee was able to move the ball fairly well on his first drive, and the second drive ended up with an interception. Enter Jordan Jefferson. JJ couldn't do much in the air aside from one long bomb to Shepard, but he wasn't asked to. Lee didn't get benched, the passing game did.
Despite some morons in the Game Thread calling for Lee to come back in the game (oh wait, that was me), Les made a strategic decision: a bare bones passing game beats one that turns the ball over. He played ball control offense for three quarters, just waiting for his defense and special teams to make a play and win it. Which, as per the norm, they did.
LSU attempted six passes in the second half. Six. And one of those was Lee trying to get back in the game. Miles put JJ out there and essentially told him to run the option and only throw the ball to keep the linebackers honest. Which is what he did. Don't let Alabama's defense beat you. And he didn't.
Play for field position
While Saban was giving up field position by attempting 50 yard field goals that had little to no chance of succeeding, Les put aside his reputation as the Mad Hatter and just played the field position game. You didn't see Miles trying some crazy 55-yard field goal when a drive stalled at the 38. He sensibly punted the ball away. Saban kept repeating the long field goal mistake, even after his kickers clearly demonstrated they couldn't hit a 50 yard field goal.
LSU could have lost this game in the fourth quarter on terrible field position. LSU started two drives in the fourth, both inside their own five yard line. OK, I'll take starting on the one if it is the result of a touchdown saving interception, but it was still bad positioning. On both drives, LSU punted back to the Alabama. Their starting field position? Their own 19 and their own 20. Both times, LSU was able to flip the field on Alabama and avoid giving up points on the next drive.
Miles knew he had the better special teams unit, and he relied heavily on this advantage. It paid off. His kickers made plays while Alabama's floundered. Though, in the Alabama kickers' defense, those were some long field goal attempts well outside of their range.
Depth, depth, and more depth
Alabama probably has a better starting lineup than LSU, particularly on the lines. However, LSU has a huge advantage in depth, and in a hard-hitting game like this one, depth absolutely matters. Alabama essentially relied on its five starting offensive linemen all game, while LSU rotated in about eight defensive linemen against them.
In the final minutes of the game, both coaches decided to play for overtime. Alabama, come OT, seemed absolutely exhausted and their team moved backwards on offense. LSU's depth came shining through and the fresh legs made tackles in the backfield on defense and made the big play on offense. On what proved to be the game-winning run, think about LSU's depth. The center, who did not start the game, snapped the ball to a quarterback who had come off the bench. The quarterback ran the option, pitching the ball to the second string tailback. Meanwhile, LSU's third fullback of the game was in the backfield as well. Every player who touched the ball on that big play did not start the game. Those fresh(er) legs won out.
Les Miles knew he had major advantages in special teams and depth. He adjusted his in-game to exploit these advantages. He also saw that his passing game was proving to be a major disadvantage, so he did what he could to hide that weakness. Accentuate your strengths, minimize your weaknesses.
It seems so simple. Heck, even our idiot coach can figure it out.
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Wrong wrong wrong
Bama made mistakes. They lost. They are the better team. We were just there herp derping around and didn’t do anything.
nemo me impune lacessit
by LSUJOSHUA on Nov 8, 2011 8:00 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
just plain old fashion dumb luck I tell you.
How many genuis masterminds has our idiot gotten ‘lucky’ against now?
I love it, I love Les, I love us!
Geaux Tigers!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Wrong wrong wrong
Les won with Saban’s players.
Meyer won with Zook's players
All hail the Zooker!
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
yea but he still had to get lucky too.
You also have to realize that Tiger Stadium’s field grass was planted while Saban was here so Miles is even eating Saban’s grass.
Just deplorable really, in this day and age to eat another man’s grass.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Yeah but PAAAWWWLLL
Miles was LUCKY to get Saban’s playurs, PAAAWWWLLL
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Nov 8, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
If we're going down that route
Saban lost with Shula’s players…
"Dracula and LSU are at their best after the sun goes down." - ESPN
by Chinese Bandit on Nov 8, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Well actually, you have to recognize
that Saban lost that game with Mile’s player.
i understand you are addressing a general perception concerning les miles
at a certain point this belief miles is being unfairly pigeonholed is more about your misconception of opposing fans than what we really believe. myself and most of the alabama fans i know freely acknowledge his skill as a coach. we were not apprehensive about this game just because of the talent on the LSU the roster.
Remember the Rose Bowl: The Story of the Alabama Crimson Tide & the Grandaddy of Them All
Kleph I freely and completely endorse what you are saying
but a significant part of the commentariat and writing over at RBR says differently.
But then on the other side of the coin, I’ve had kind words from almost all of the Bama people I know.
The truth is someone in the middle I suppose. For every kick Bama missed, there’s a sack or a tackle for loss that LSU made. For every bad call by Saban, there was a good call by Miles. It’s been this way for two years. Some Tide fans acknowledge it. Some Tide fans drone on about losing the game and never saying one word of praise about LSU.
Really, I supoose it’s much ado about nothing now that the game is past. Much more importantly:
-kick the shit out of Auburn. They deserve it.
-kick the snot out of Boise or whatever team they send to you in the Sugar (what a terrible consolation prize for not winning the SEC, the Sugar Bowl)
nemo me impune lacessit
Yeah, we're making it up
http://collegefootballpundit.com/2011/06/21/the-10-worst-coaches-in-college-football/
A search for “Les Miles lucky” yields 25,400,000 results on Yahoo!
We didn’t invent the perception, and people have been piling on Miles for years. Even last year, it was popular to just call him lucky instead of simply a good coach. We’re entitled to shove everyone’s faces in it, especially on our home blog.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
by Poseur on Nov 8, 2011 9:08 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
there were legitimate questions about his skills as a coach in the past
many, i’ll point out, made here at ATVS last year when wins were coming in the most bizarre ways. but anyone who doesn’t look at miles’ record as a coach and not recognize his skill as a leader of premiere college football teams is simply talking out of their ass.
Remember the Rose Bowl: The Story of the Alabama Crimson Tide & the Grandaddy of Them All
It's not our fault that Gary Crowton's F-up-a-thon was so big that we had no clue where the source of the suckage was coming from.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
It's not our fault...
Well, part of it is is.
Miles’ accomplishments were well documented prior to 2008. The down fall of 2008 sent MANY a Tiger fan into an unreasonable and unending blame-a-thon of Miles MUST be an idiot because we want to win every game by three touch downs and he can’t tell time and he ran the short side option and and and…
“We” displayed very little patience in letting Miles deal with issues that he faced along the way, even to the point of “BOOing” him/JJ THIS YEAR because of some foolish myth that Miles plays favorites and of course JJ has no value so we’d be better off with him in prison, etc, etc, etc…
Not putting that on you but it is part of ‘us’ as Tiger Nation.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
To be fair
It is also the responsibility of the HC to hire and fire his assistants. I absolutely DO think it is fair to criticize Miles for Crowton’s performance, because Crowton should not have kept his job that long. The fact he did is on Miles and Miles alone.
And I love Les. Not a Miles-hater in any way. But it’s not fair to blame Crowton for our crap and absolve Les. Yes, Crowton effed us 3 ways from Sunday. But who was letting him stick around to do all that? I think Gary should’ve been gone after 2009. The O-line be damned, by that point it was clear his players were disorganized and he wasn’t a good QB coach.
It would have been nice to see Crowton gone after 2009
but Miles was told that he could not make a change and his hands were tied. This was widely reported and widely ignored.
But LSU still won 9 and then 11 games with Crowton and basically NO offense and ‘we’ still acted like absolute children.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Prior to the Fifth of November (remember, remember)
MOST Bama fan’s (and a lot of our own idiotic fans) expressed the beleif that Miles is a lucky bafoon who is still riding in the ‘porche that saban’ left behind.
Any reasonable and semi intelligent person should have known this was a ridiculous notion but it has been the notion, nonetheless.
We’re happy to continue being underestimated but is really mind boggling to me. Miles did better with ’Saban’s players’ than Saban did with those players, he also beat Saban with ’Saban’s players’ now he has beaten Saban and ’Saban’s players’ (twice in a row) with his own players, his own coaches, his own game plan and his own punter from down under.
People keep trying to figure out how to ‘explain it’ as if just being better requires an explanation.
We find that funny here at ATVS.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
well miles is a lucky buffoon in a lot of ways
and that has nothing to do with is ability to build, maintain and lead a quality football program.
Remember the Rose Bowl: The Story of the Alabama Crimson Tide & the Grandaddy of Them All
No, he's not
See, you can’t escape the meme even when you try and deny it. Miles is not a lucky buffoon.
Have we never ever criticized Miles? Of course we have. We’re not sychophants. But this site has been pretty solidly pro-Mles, even with criticism. Last year, it was a popular opinion LSU had trended behind Auburn and Arkansas, much less Bama. And it was then we kicked off the Delusional Optimism campaign, predicting a 10 win season and a finish in the top ten. At the darkest hour of Miles’ tenure, we were behind the guy.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
by Poseur on Nov 8, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
ATVS has had a few critics
and of course A LOT of Tiger Fans still have some humble pie to eat themselves but by and large ATVS has been one of the only reasonably tilted blogs on the web when it comes to the Miles perception.
Kelp is using ‘Tiger fans’ as a back stop; “see they said it too” but that doesn’t make it true.
What is true is that MOST of those Tiger fans now KNOW they were WRONG, have admitted it and are happy about it.
Its harder for Bama fans because Saban is their guy and they had all convinced themselves that he is the second coming and with the only competition coming from that idiot in Baton Rouge they were pretty sure they could dominate CFB again.
The paradigm has shifted but its a hard pill for the gumps to swallow.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
True Dat!
Many other LSU sites became unbearable except for this one at the start of the 2010 season. The humanoids were trying to analyze everything as part of a larger part of the return tot he Hallman era. They were as foolish as they sounded.
And after a few years of low blows from media, coaches, and fans, some people could take a note from Paul Finebaum and eat crow with class. “In this business, we all jump to conclusions about coaches based on what we observe over a period of time. Usually the resulting opinions are based in facts and experience. But I have rarely been as wrong as I have been about Leslie Edwin Miles Jr.”
by Big McLargeHuge on Nov 8, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
But I have rarely been as wrong as I have been about Leslie Edwin Miles Jr."
That’s the secret pass phrase, welcome to the club!
I have to be honest though, I did not know Les was a Jr.
I’m sorry coach, I thought I knew you.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Finebaum wrote that?
Link?
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
well miles is a lucky buffoon in a lot of ways
And just like that the most credible poster in Bama nation history goes up in smoke.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
Not really, if you read his post and think about what "lucky" and "buffoon" mean
Miles has been lucky in a lot of ways. He was born with a tremendous mind for strategy. He was gifted with a capacity to perceive and understand people and their potentials. He was blessed with enough athletic ability to be able to earn a chance to play for (and later coach for) a great coaching mind like Bo. He is also a buffoon in many ways. He says things that are inarticulate. He often behaves in public in amusingly inappropriate or unexpected ways. He puts people at ease and makes them laugh by making himself the butt of his own humor. These are behaviours of a classic buffoon (without some of the more modern derogatory connotations).
The thing that makes Miles seem so strange is that he is precisely that: strange. The whole historical sample of quality, respected football coaches reveals a wide diversity of personalities but an oddly narrow selection of public personae. You have the quiet, reserved intense guy. You have the quiet reserved mild mannered guy. You have the affable good ol’ boy. You have the affable old man. You have a fiery, barely restrained passionate-but-still-stoic guy. In front of a camera, they all boil down to a few different “faces” that have become as predictable and cliche’d as the coachspeak that comes out of their mouths.
And then there’s Les. He doesn’t look like “good” coaches look, he doesn’t talk like “good” coaches talk, and he doesn’t act like “good” coaches act (“good” coaches don’t make commercials where they reject their own 12-year olds’ layups or discuss horticultural cuisine with Lee Corso). But his record, performance and product on the field year in and year out inarguably demonstrate that he is a very good — if not great — coach. So people don’t know what to do with him. It is difficult for people to let go of established notions of “the way things are” because it is tantamount to admitting (at least to themselves) that they were wrong. People will convince themselves of some strange things and ignore some very obvious truths rather than admit that.
Too tragic a day to try and be funny.
Yeah...Well said
But that is obviously not what kleph meant or implied.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
This is probably the best summary of the game yet.
I don’t want to play Alabama again…not because I’m scared, but because I think other conferences deserve a shot at the SEC champion.
And if I’m Alabama, I’d be wary about a rematch also. LSU made many mistakes in that game as well, and a rematch in New Orleans could just as easily turn into a 14 pt beatdown by LSU as it could turn into another 9-6 slug fest with bama coming out on top. If The Mad Hatter beat Nick Saban again in the NC game, I think Saban’s head would explode. I’m not sure he’d be able to take it.
I think it’s better for everyone involved if we let Saban Bowl VI happen in November 2012 instead of January 2012.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
by LSU Jonno on Nov 8, 2011 9:22 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Pete Fiutak had it right – we beat Bama at home and that should be it – if we have to play them again and they win, then we were punished. You should have to win your conference.
But I agree with LSUJOSHUA below – I thought all along our year was gonna be 2012. Looking very much forward to Saban Bowl VI.
November 2012 will be worse.
They lose a ton of guys and we return almost this entire team. And it’s ‘promised’ to be a night game.
nemo me impune lacessit
I think the LSU advantage in depth cannot be overstated as a reason for our victory
And it’s something I’ve seen very little discussion about. It was extremely clear that, come overtime, we had fresher legs than we did. Just from the reaction shots of the Bama fans in the fourth quarter, you could see they knew their team was losing even though the score was tied.
Specifically, by the middle of the fourth quarter Trent Richardson was a dead man walking. Some RBR’ers are arguing that McElwain should’ve given Richardson more carries. This is ludicrous. Richardson had 22 carries, five receptions, and one kick return. On each of those plays he was hit extremely hard, usually more than once. Sometimes four or five times on a single carry. Add in some hard hits while pass blocking. By the end of the 4Q he was obviously not the same player he was in the second quarter.
Consider this – Richardson’s last five carries went 2, 2, -6, -3, 0. Then in OT he drops a screen pass and totally misplays the ball on a wheel route. As great of a player as he obviously is, he was just pounded into submission. And because LSU was rotating in 8 linemen and 5 linebackers, he was getting tired earlier than we were.
Compare to Ware and Ford. Now Ware’s numbers weren’t that great, but he took enough of the hits to ensure that Ford was able to stay fresh. On Ford’s game-winning carry he was able to get to the edge so easily because he wasn’t worn out and Bama’s linebackers were.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Nov 8, 2011 10:15 AM CST reply actions
Being as Deep as we are
AND as young as we are with nothing but great classes coming in makes me giddy.
We are going to be scary good for a good while, just saying.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
And the hits just keep on coming
CLM is a great recruiter and you see the results on the field. There’s been at least 3 consecutive #7’s who were lights out phenomenal. QB might become the most interesting battle next year. Mett has to be the early favorite but who’s to say one of the freshmen doesn’t step up and get the nod. This season is far from over and I’m already excited about next year.
Even some here in Montgomery know this.
One of the local radio pundits pointed out today that it wasn’t just Richardson that was gassed at the end of the game. He was making the point that, while the typical AMAB fan was saying that Saban screwed up by not pounding the ball in the late 4th and OT, the entire AMAB offense was so gassed on the sideline that they were not going to be able to pound it. So much of the pregame hype was that AMAB would eventually wear out the smaller LSU defense, the reality was very different.
Miles did a great job of preparing this team for the entire season, building a defense that could stop both spread and power offenses. He should be the Coach of the Year and Chief should be the assistant coach of the year.
GEAUX TIGERS — Have a Great Day
Well-said.
Lee didn’t get benched, the passing game did.
People need to relax on this start JJ stuff. We’ll need them both to get home to NOLA. That’s just who we are as a team: a true 2 QB system. The old “if you have 2 QB’s…” stuff doesn’t apply to us. We have 2 QBs and we have 2 offenses. Try to stop both of them if you can. The best in the nation couldn’t. Will anyone else?
This proves Miles’ coaching ability as much as anything: To beat AL, he knew we’d need two offenses and planned and prepped all year accordingly. It was fitting that the Ford run finished them off.
Honestly, I don't believe it ever applied to anybody
“if you have 2 QBs, you have no QBs,” has always been a false truism. Rarely does a team with two quality QBs suffer from playing both of them. However, that situation is rather rare. What you see a lot more of (and what gives rise to the conventional mistake) are teams with 2 bad QBs who have to switch them out repeatedly in desperate attempts to find a situation that is successful. These teams often struggle on offense because they do indeed have no QBs. But it is false to suggest that they ever had 2 QBs in the first place.
Two quality QBs (like every other position in the game) is a strength, not a weakness.
Too tragic a day to try and be funny.
Yeah, it's really more a saying that applies to
Having 2 bad quarterbacks.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Blaming the kickers is just sad
As you rightly point out, Saban repeatedly asked his kickers to hit 40+ yarders. Miles said, screw that, pin them on the 10 and let’s try again.
Now the big finally: why where they kicking from 50 while we kicked from 30? because we got closer to the end zone. There might not have been any TD’s but we got close enough to hit 3 FG, they only got close enough to hit 2.
That’s not kicker’s luck, that’s the benefit of better play.
"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles
by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Nov 8, 2011 11:54 AM CST reply actions
Red Zone
The popular line is that Bama dominated the game and just missed chip shot field goals. Red Zone Efficiency in the game:
LSU 3/3
Bama 1/1
That’s right. Bama only had one trip to the red zone and never crossed the 10 yard line.
Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur
'Exceptional' my ass!
"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles
by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Nov 8, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
But PAAAWWWLLL
Kickers ain’t reel football playurs, PAAAWWWLLL. That’s why we done won that game b/c kickers ain’t reel football playurs, PAAAWWWLLL. The stats ain’t lie, PAAAWWWLLL. So they ain’t reel football plaurs & they cheat by hitting the camera wire, PAAAWWWLLL.
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
I have a question about the camera wire thing
if the ball hit the wire, wouldn’t that IMPEDE it’s progress through the air? The ball went past Maze, not in front of him. Seems like the ball not hitting the wire wouldn’t made his misjudgment even more glaringly wrong. It might have gone 20 yards behind him instead of 10
I thought the same thing
It could have deflected left or right slightly too, but bottom line the dude just screwed up.
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
Miles certainly thinks it did
And it still pisses him off from last season’s Arkansas game.
I do agree that it’s ridiculous that it’s an issue. If CBS can’t have that thing without it getting in the way they shouldn’t have it.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Pretty soon Miles will be bitching at physics and planet Earth for making acceleration due to gravity too low causing Wing's punts to get lost somewhere in our solar system instead of landing in the field of play.
/winged
/milesissm
2011 LSU Accolades:
"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports
"I really like corndogs" -Sparky
"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples
"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton
"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports
"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles
Bottom line....
Miles recruits well, coaches well—needed to get rid of some assistants but who doesnt occasionally and he did, can be fiery but is a nice guy and a players coach, loyal, WINS most of the time while following a very successful coach in Saban (let us all remember Dinardo, Hallman, Archer for a moment—-siiigh), and he is 100% FUN.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Nov 8, 2011 5:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
great post, some are still picking at CLM
Like on CCM. I try to set em straight with W-L, bowl record, etc. you can succeed that much for that long on luck and stupidity.
by CeeDave on Nov 8, 2011 6:46 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I truly think Miles is a good coach
After reading the Outside the Lines feature on him, I feel even more strongly that this is so. Outside of some past clock management issues, I see very little to complain about with his coaching.
Saban is also a very good coach with a different style. Shortly after watching the game, I was felt that we (Bama) abandoned the running game somewhat early on, reducing it’s effectiveness later in the ballgame. Now, having a few days to ponder it over, I’ve softened on this quite a bit. We had just lost one of the guys in our OL rotation the previous game (Cyrus Kouandjio) and had Alfred McCullough starting in place of Anthony Steen. When Barrett Jones got dinged up in the first half, this had a significant effect on our run blocking, being Jones is our best and most versatile lineman. So I can understand not trying to pound the football as much as we probably would otherwise.
The decision to attempt the long field goals is what bothers me. I understand the first attempt on the opening drive, but the next two looked somewhat desperate in my opinion. In a game where the defenses obviously had the upper hand, I was surprised that we didn’t show the patience to hold field position and play defense, especially playing at home. Miles understood this and played to that strength, we did not.
Both defenses played an outstanding game. Miles showed patience that Saban didn’t and LSU’s offense and special teams executed when it counted and Bama didn’t. It doesn’t really matter what you do between the 30’s if your shoot yourself in the foot when you get past that, which we did often. LSU’s defense had a great deal to do with that.
Congrats on a great win. Whatever Pac 12 or Big 12 (or whatever number they are nowadays) you get in New Orleans, cook em in a pot like gumbo.
Hopefully we can get Boise State and show em how football is played down south…
"Never start a fight with an old man...if he's too old to fight, he'll probably just kill you."
by figtide on Nov 9, 2011 8:37 AM CST reply actions 2 recs

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