AWARDS NIGHT OPEN THREAD
A night of stars await you at ESPN's annual "Every Award That Isn't The Heisman" show, featuring such noted presenters as Matt Millen, Herschel Walker, Governor Bill Anoatubby (Tribal leader of the Chickasaw Nation), Fred Biletnikoff, and former SEC Commish Roy Kramer. Mo Claiborne and Tyrann Mathieu will be their to take home their position awards. You'll also have an opportunity to boo heartily at Ray Guy himself for leaving Brad Wing off of his award's finalists list.
But the real reason you'll tune in is that Les Miles will be presented with the Home Depot Coach of the Year Award (the first of no doubt many this year) and will be asked to give an acceptance speech. That's right, Les Miles in front of a live microphone on cable TV.
Show starts at 8pm on ESPN and is rated TV-CJ (may contain Craig James)
OR....
Counter Programming tonight: LPB is running selected clips from Ole War Skule, that new LSU football documentary that came out a few weeks back starting at 7pm. It may or may not contain footage of Les Miles dancing the funky chicken at a practice meeting (hint: IT DOES)
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I'm Bryan Sparacino
So buried on the depth chart you will never see me on the field. Besides, I’m watching Community and Parks & Rec.
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Watching DVR'd Community. Need to catch up.
Speaking of Old War Skule, finally got my copy. Anybody interested in a review at some later date?
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I was going to do one, but go ahead
my review in a few words
Con: it’s a bit too long
Pro: Les Miles doing the funky chicken in a practice meeting
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I've seen it
I was a little disappointed to be honest. It’s not bad but… I don’t know. It lacked a little something.
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Dec 8, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
It was alright.
A little too much “FOOTBALL IS A MAN’S GAME PLAYED BY MEN” narrator dialogue though. Kinda slowed it down.
LSU Tigers: 13-0, 2011 SEC Champions
Beat Bama (again)!
by TheOtherAndrew on Dec 8, 2011 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
I would like one
Don’t do it for little ole me but I don’t get LPB and I can’t open my Xmas presents for about a month
by haveagreatday on Dec 8, 2011 8:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Justin Blackmon finally got a haircut
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
I wonder how much money Roy Kramer made?
It would seem that we owe him a bit
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What's funny about that 'Storied' bit
Is all I keep thinking is “why doesn’t the game rotate sites again?”
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This is already painful to watch
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Biggest waist of time ever?
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
by jharrison2090 on Dec 8, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
waste
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
by jharrison2090 on Dec 8, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
The Ray Guy finalists on hand
Yeah except for the best damn punter in the country, who wasn’t nominated for some bizarre reason. Fowler could have won cool points for life for mentinoning that.
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Name something you'd like to have Tom Rinaldi narrate?
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Or maybe his thoughts on Huey Lewis and the News?

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One fish Two fish Red fish Blue fish
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If Mo Doesn't Win the Thorpe...
Well, I’m gonna type very angrily on this message board.
Eye right blahgs.
He will
Its gotta be him or the guy from NC State. Who did at least have a pretty ridiculous year.
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I watched the video of all his picks.
Almost all of his picks were against lesser competition and not to take away from him, but poorly thrown balls.
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
by jharrison2090 on Dec 8, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
BXII has won the O'Brien 7 of the last 11 years.
If that’s not an indictment of your conference’s DBs, I dont know what is.
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What no Eric Reid in the big hits montage?
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Seriously has nobody tattooed "0-16" on Millen's fat forehead yet?
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Walter Camp All-American Team announced
Claiborne, Mathieu rep LSU on the 1st team defense
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And Less looked like he was ready to burst with pride.
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
Compare facial expressions between CLM and NS
as their players are interviewed.
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
How is Kendall Wright not there and Broyles is.
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
I'd go Justin Blackmon
He is ridiculously good.
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Woods is ridiculously good too...
I think Blackmon is a product of the system. Wouldn’t shock me if they just had another guy out there next year that was doing the same thing Dez… then Blackmon did.
Eye right blahgs.
I feel for Broyles
That kid’s a stud. Kind of hope the Saints take a look at him in April.
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At some point...
With the Big XII routinely winning every Davey O’Brien and every Biletnikoff… do people not say, “Hey, maybe there’s reason these guys are able to put up such ridiculous numbers?”
Eye right blahgs.
by Paul Crewe on Dec 8, 2011 8:32 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oregon's punter made it?
God now I’m really annoyed Wing got left out.
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BOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOO!!!
No Wing! No peace!
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Don't even want to watch this award...
Crocodile puntee should be here…
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
Badger should take that Ray Guy for Wing...
Just sayin’ he takes what he wants for chrissake. Take the Ray Guy for Wing. DO IT.
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
Wow they even gave it to a Louisiana punter
Feels like Ray Guy is trolling us…
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Not even the best punter in Louisiana
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"Ryan, I gotta ask, what's it like to not even be the best punter in your state?"
-Chris Fowler
Eye right blahgs.
and why is he not here?
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
"Ryan, when you called Brad Wing for advice this year, what did he say?"
-Fowler
“AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE! OI! OI! OI!” – Brad Wing’s advice to Ryan
Eye right blahgs.
Apologies to Ray Guy
But that’s fuckIng bullshit
by haveagreatday on Dec 8, 2011 8:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
By the way, is it me or is Roy Kramer really effin' creepy lookin?
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Roy Kramer is lucid as hell
I expected him to be muttering and saying shit that didn’t make sense. Wow.
Eye right blahgs.
Brad wing on twitter
The NBA owners rejected having Brad Wing as a finalist for the Ray Guy Award, concerned about unfair competition. #ESPNCFA #LSU
Brad Wing couldn’t win the Ray Guy award because he was busy fighting crime under the name “Nightwing”
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
Ray Goff on the SEC Championship
“It’ll make it a lot harder to win a national championship.”
The definition of irony?
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Well, for Georgia, it did...
…So he was right on that front.
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I'm watching this...
but also weeping into my beer at the Hornets/NBA ownership situation. What a disaster.
Eye right blahgs.
I think we need to liven up this thread a bit

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by Billy Gomila on Dec 8, 2011 8:53 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
On the Interwebz you're 'sposed to say
“I’ll be in my bunk…”
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
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Wow! Our official ATVS crush. Thanks Billy
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
possibly rename it the Meaux Award
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
Isom is short for
I’som kinda cutey, fo’ sho’
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Dec 8, 2011 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
sorry I'm a day late and missed this, but
why in the name of all that is holy is this NOT GREEN?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!
"Well, that sucked."-stujo4 on Rams vs. Saints
Wait, Trent Richardson's teachers...
Told him he wouldn’t “get out of here?”
WTF?
Why are these people being paid to be teachers?
Eye right blahgs.
Lou Groza
Who else thinks we need more kicker/offensive linemen in the football?
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
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My sources say..
T-Bob is the backup kicker if Alleman, Wing and Hairston decide to go on tour with the Rockettes.
Eye right blahgs.
Sorry, my mind cannot or will not visualize T-Bob kicking...frightful
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
I haveseen nothing since the "Wide Middle"
my eyes are filled with tears from laughing so much.
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
just can't help but see the FSU kicker
and immediately think “WIDE RIGHT!”
That is one big man
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
Hey its Grant Hills dad.
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
HB and Mo on the Walter Camp team
great award well deserved.
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
was that a cardboard cut out of LMJ?
he never moved… at all…
lol yes
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
by jharrison2090 on Dec 8, 2011 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
thibk they just inserted picture.
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
Looked a lot like he did against LSU...
Did nothing.
Eye right blahgs.
by Paul Crewe on Dec 8, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Awesomeness!!
+1 from me too!
by TigerBornTigerRaised on Dec 9, 2011 7:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
LES MILES ON YOUR TV!
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C;mon
Get is done…Les!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
Next year we should an ATVS end of the year awards
Best fan shot, best fan post, best comment, best commenter, best post…
No need to do most popular poster. Don’t need to stroke Poseur’s ego any more than we already have.
Eye right blahgs.
Saban hated to have to shake hands.
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
Did I catch it right
“Wild eyed Tigers ? Love it
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
Mo Claiborne deserves it...
The Manster !!!!!
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
Trifecta!
Should just call this the LSU awards show
Two years.
Three cornerbacks. Three SEC Def. POY Awards, 2 Thorpes and 2 Bednaricks.
Ron Cooper’s gonna be gettin’ a raise methinks.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
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Couldn't be happier for Morris Claiborne...
Kid excels against all odds. Once a lightly recruited kid from Fair Park to now the best DB in College football and eventual top 10 draft pick.
Eye right blahgs.
and all around good guy...
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
Maybe the replacement for the go-to "_____ was a two star!" argument?
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
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you can do it...
hang in there…….
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
Chief said...
let me get back to work…
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
LOL Chief looks so uncomfortable
like he’s ready to rip the suit off. Gotta love the Chief
It really looked like...
He was going to knock out the camera man!!
by tkemz939 on Dec 8, 2011 10:18 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Really feeling bad for the dude that lost his girl in the storm
they keep bringing it up and making him relive it.
See how we're not making jokes, Roll Bama Roll?
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by Billy Gomila on Dec 8, 2011 9:49 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Excellent point Billy!
I cant “rec” from mobile.. So.. REC REC REC REC REC!!
A very wise soul once said.. “no mayter how high tuition gets…. You can pay for school, but you can’t buy CLASS!”
to all the “haters” out there.. I know we LSU fans are called by many the most “classless” loyal fan-base in college football… But, we have enough class to not make jokes at the expense of other peoples tragedies! Sorry Roll Bama Roll people (if you can call the commentor that posted that about Katrina a viable specimen of human being/person) but, we have class!! Just EFFIN sayin!!
by TigerBornTigerRaised on Dec 9, 2011 8:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
We appreciate it. I only recall OTS making a bad joke.
I felt it was thoughtless and lacked class.
I remember watching coverage of Katrina for days, seeing those people sitting on their rooftops, and wondering why the Feds didn’t get there for a damn week.
I saw nothing funny.
Also, congrats on the awards. See you Jan.9!
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
Oh I know Kleph certainly wouldn't stoop so low. I don't know Todd and Nico but I give them at least that much benefit of the doubt.
But OTS can eat a dick — and I used to enjoy his stuff.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
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by Billy Gomila on Dec 9, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
His comments directed to his own team after the first Game of the Century were truly disgusting...
and then he made the Roe v. Wade comment about HB. Totally classless. I’m not surprised that he would make a Katrina comment.
by Displaced Tiger on Dec 9, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Methinks he is Republican...
NTTAWWT :-)
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Oh, cool moment
I hate award shows, but every so often, there’s a genuine human moment. All of the Bama players hugging him on the way to the podium was kind of beautiful.
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Gotta be so hard for that kid to talk about his girl like that.
I know it would be for me.
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It was rough to watch
Especially since right after the tornadoes, I read the first-hand account of the whole thing from one of Tinker’s roommates. I applaud Carson for being able to talk about it on national television.
Ready to see UGA light on fire?
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That's the night that the lights went out in Georgia?
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by Billy Gomila on Dec 8, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
"Dracula and LSU are at their best after the sun goes down." - ESPN
by Chinese Bandit on Dec 9, 2011 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
Andrew Luck
Proof that quarterbacks can be complete goobers too.
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Kellen Moore
He makes Luck look like George Clooney.
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Don't have the ESPNU on this TV so will just bid all a good night
and it is a great night to be a Tiger fan.
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers
I'll put vids up tomorrow as available
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After watching the Ray Guy award announcement (as Ducks had a horse in that race)
it occurred to us over at the Duck blog. Why wasn’t Brad Wing nominated? Most of us outside the SEC only hear of him for the celebration penalty (during which he totally rocked his TD run. Seriously, how can you ask a punter to not celebrate running in a TD?), but the consensus is he’s pretty good.
Can you who know the Tigers inside and out give any insight as to why he was passed up?
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
BECAUSE THE AUGUSTA SPORTS COUNCIL IS RACIST AGAINST AUSTRALIANS!
Honestly, we got no idea. And it seems neither does the rest of the sportswriting world.
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My guess is standard underclassmen discrimination
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by Billy Gomila on Dec 8, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
They didnt want him to win it 4 years in a row
The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
Dirk Nowitzki's Flamingo Fade away is this generation's Sky Hook
by jharrison2090 on Dec 8, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
My guess is standard underclassmen discrimination
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by Billy Gomila on Dec 8, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
Honestly..?
Who knows!!? If anyone find a valid viable reason.. I would like to know also.. Brad Wing NOT even being named as a finalist is one of the largest.. eehhhh, scratch that… The mostestestest ex-screamly stupiderest ruhdonkulously pure-d-damn dumbdrsterest snubb I, personally, have witnessed in my lifetime! It was a "hey man… Would you hold my drink.. And my shades for me jusy a sec.. Yeah.. Both hands full now..? K.. Good.. Thank you for your helping me occupy your hands while I PUNCH YOU IN YOUR EFFIN FACE & my ‘mini me’ PUNCHES YOU IN YOUR MANSACK!! You are a great guy for doin that for me.. Thanks!
by TigerBornTigerRaised on Dec 9, 2011 8:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
ESPN hates LSU
I love the fact that on a night in which an LSU player/coach takes home the Bednarik, Thorpe, Broyles, and COY… we LSU fans can still bitch about the Ray Guy Award.
No slight is ever too small, people. Keep up the good work.
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by Poseur on Dec 9, 2011 9:13 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
It's a legit gripe though
Brad Wing is hands down the best punter in CFB.
He was a game changer and he was hands down our MVP in the game of the century and the WVU game, to name two.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Congrats to all the winners
Some of the awards REALLY puzzle me. (as far as selecting player A for this award but player B for this award) But, I believe all of the nomonies were deserving. Really liked Conner representing Alabama in the spirit award. But I concur the most puzzling of all was Brad Wing not even being selected to attend the awards, no disrespect to La Tech or Ryan Allen, but to quote Mark Packer this morning: “You would have a tough time confincing me that Ryan Allen is the best punter in Louisiana.”
I hate to say it, but by the numbers Allen was better
Brad Wing, LSU: 57 punts for a 43.8 yard avg.
LSU opponents had 17 punt returns for 6 yards / a 0.4 yard avg.
23 punts inside opp 20; Percentage of punts inside opp 20 (40.35%)
18 punts 50+ yards
Longest punt: 73 yards
Ryan Allen, La Tech: 78 punts for a 46.31 yard avg.
La Tech opponents had 26 punt returns for 340 yards / a 13.08 yard avg.
37 punts inside opp 20; Percentage of punts inside opp 20 (47.43%)
29 punts 50+ yards
Longest Punt: 72 yards
With all that being said, there were 2 games early in the season where Wing did not punt one time. That could have help his average; but at the same time, due to our offense being what it is, he generally had a shorter distance to punt which hurt his average. At least we have 2 to 3 more years of Brad Wing doing his thing.
"The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes." – Winston Churchill
I think it depends on how you value punters
Allen’s numbers inside the 20 get the extra padding of 21 more punts total (I really wish they kept track of punts downed inside the 10 or the 5, because I’d be willing to bet Wing had 15 of those), AND, his punts allowed opponents to average 13 yards per return (108th in the country). Some might say that hang time and preventing a return should be a punter’s chief goal over distance.
Wing’s punts allowed a grand total of 6 return yards on the whole year. So Allen’s punts might have been three yards longer, but they came with a greater chance of 13 yards coming back the other way. Personally, I’ll take three yards less on the punt if there’s virtually no chance of a return every time.
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I'll take Wing's accuracy over distance any day
How many times has he dropped it right on top of one of the gunners for no return? Wing’s stats don’t reflect what an incredible punter he actually is.
I guess
They could have thought the net yardage was due to LSU’s punt coverage and the athletes involved. They could be saying Allen excelled at his position where wing was part of a shutdown unit and it’s too hard to assign credit. Whatever, we have at least 2 more years of watching him flip the field, I’d take that any day, but the recognition would have been nice for him
by ORtigerfan on Dec 10, 2011 2:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Punting for La.Tech is a helluva lot different than punting for LSU
This is Big Boy football!
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