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I continue to be hampered by severe computer issues that have lasted since the end of the weekend. I swear on my blogging honor the Fullerton recap is coming before the Wednesday game at Nicholls if I have to fax the damn thing in.


Video from Shea Dixion at TigerSportsDigest

ProDay 2011 saw the usual improvement of combine times and reps for those who chose to participate. Special note to long time ATVS readers that Danny "Oreo of Explosion" Graff ran a 4.54 in the 40, and Josh Jasper didn't even run the 40, leaving many long-time bar bets unsettled. I would have included the usual cavalcade of videos after the break, but all of LSU's vids are behind the GeauxZone paywall this year. Instead, there's a bit from the Times-Pic Saints beat writers about what they see in our draft class. They also talked to the many former players on hand about what their workout plans are during the lockout and quite a few of them will be coming back home to stay in form.

As was revealed late yesterday LSU has had dealings with Will Lyles, the "street agent" of recent notoriety in the NCAA's request for documents at Oregon. Specifically worrying is the reported relationship between Lyles, DL coach Brick Haley, DE Trevon Randle, and Randles father.

The payment for recruiting services is very much legal under NCAA regs, and while $6K may seem like a lot for JUCO tapes on Kansas and California schools, without numbers from other schools who recruit comparably well it's impossible to tell if these numbers are high or low. 

The issue that is troubling is the not quite matching stories of Haley and Randle's HS coach in Texas and whether or not Lyles counts as a booster in the eyes of the NCAA. I assume we will hear more on this as spring camp continues.

And while we are on this odd business, I think I found a friend for our local Rangers fan. I'd spout off a line about throwing stones, but I wouldn't want my dirty self to make a mess in his glass house.

If the double Final Four year of 2006 represents the height of LSU Basketball then this morning has to rank as the true rock bottom. For the 1st time since 1998, the Lady Tigers will not go dancing.

Just as soon as the rumors spread about the openings in Utah, Coach Trent Johnson quickly put out the fire, recommitting to "building a championship program at LSU." Those of you still playing the drinking game should take the customary shot for the Johnny O'Bryant reference in that last link.

Thanks to the Fullerton sweep, LSU is now ranked in the top 10 in all 4 major polls.

If you are skipping the raw emotion that is UNC-Ashville v ARK-LR this evening, might I suggest an SEC West baseball preview of Bama v Auburn in Montgomery, live on ESPN3.com and some Alabama cable stations. The game doesn't count towards SEC standings, but should give us some idea of how deep this league really is. Otherwise, SLU is on the carpet at Turchin for GM2 with the Greenies.

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To save y’all from the clicking the link, here’s the first sentence:

LSU is dirty and has been for a long-time.

Coming from an Ohio St. fan, I’d worry. These guys seem to know cheating real well. His story to back up being dirty is an unsourced story about Nick Saban. Which, not to put too fine a point on it, isn’t that relevant. Condemning Les Miles’ program because Nick Saban was dirty lacks a certain punch.

Given a chance to expound on his accusation in the comments, the author says this about “legitmate” scouting services:

But LSU’s figure is exorbitant, as well. For comparison, take the going rate of a real service. John McCallister’s evaluation of Ohio costs teams $2,000 a season.

So, let’s check out how much LSU spent by RTFA:

Vincent told the Times Picayune LSU paid $6,000 for the JUCO Per State Package which includes game films from California and Kansas Junior Colleges and costs $3,000 per state. Vincent said LSU used 14 different recruiting services last year, ranging from $39.95 to ESPN Insider to $20,000 for National Prep Network.

So… LSU spent $3,000 per state which is “exorbitant” but tOSU spending $2,000 per state is legitimate. I don’t quite buy that argument.

I’m not saying there’s nothing to worry about here. I’m not thrilled about being involved in an NCAA investigation regarding improper recruiting and suitcases full of cash. That’s pretty much always bad. If LSU did pay a player, we should be punished. But, as the story stands now, LSU hasn’t done anything against the rules. I’m also encouraged that LSU is freely admitting this payment. It’s almost never the crime that gets you in trouble, but the cover up. I’m glad we seem to be above the board right now.

Obviously, this story is in its infancy, and its too early to draw any conclusions. But I think we can all agree that the Ohio st. blog is probably covered in broken glass right now after all of those thrown stones.

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by Poseur on Mar 15, 2011 8:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Preaching to the choir brother

You should take this up with Along the Olentangy (if you’re wondering, that’s the river in Ohio that isn’t on fire).

As to his other claim, I searched google for “dwayne bowe recruit lsu miami $50,000” and guess what the only relevant hit was?

Don't Panic.

by 4.0 Point Stance on Mar 15, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

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As to his other claim, I searched google for "dwayne bowe recruit lsu miami $50,000" and guess what the only relevant hit was?

I was THIS close to joining that site to link the Google search result, but thought better of it. It’s really sad to have such low quality bloggers on SB Nation. While I’m not an Ohio State fan I think they deserve a lot better than some idiot that comes up with complete works of fiction.

In the history of college football, no player, no coach, no guru, compares with [Les] Miles’s masterful incorporation of applied chaos theory and time relativity into strategic game planning. Simply put, the man is on another level. A level many don’t or can’t understand. Genius.

by Gregatron on Mar 16, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just to be clear, I meant

that SB Nation is a very high quality community of blogs on the whole. Authors like Tyler T. are not indicative of the high quality writing that goes on here.

In the history of college football, no player, no coach, no guru, compares with [Les] Miles’s masterful incorporation of applied chaos theory and time relativity into strategic game planning. Simply put, the man is on another level. A level many don’t or can’t understand. Genius.

by Gregatron on Mar 16, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peterson seems so polished in his interviews.

I’m very proud to say he is a part of LSU. He’s going to be a star in the NFL.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Mar 15, 2011 8:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Ohio State is dirty and has been for a long time

In the scouting community there’s this famous story about Jim Tressel’s recruitment of Maurice Clarett.: Lloyd Carr was the coach at Michigan at the time, and as soon as he walked into Clarett’s home, Clarett brandished an eight ball of uncut coke that he said Jim Tressell had provided him, and wanted to know how much Columbian marching power Carr would match if he wanted Clarett to attend Michigan. Carr turned around to walk out, but as he did so Jim Tressell walked out of the back of the house with no shirt on and his arms around two Dominican prostitutes. As Carr walked out Tressell screamed at the top of his lungs, “You know I got that powder, bitch!” as he cut huge rails out for himself and Clarett.

//Unsubstantiated rumor is unsubstantiated, but it has to be true, right?

"I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than 10 to 20 million killed, tops...depending on the breaks." - Buck Turgidson

by Yail Bloor on Mar 15, 2011 4:11 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

That cock smoker has some nerve.
LSU is dirty and has been for a long-time.

This? From an Ohio State fan!?!? Glass houses indeed.

In the history of college football, no player, no coach, no guru, compares with [Les] Miles’s masterful incorporation of applied chaos theory and time relativity into strategic game planning. Simply put, the man is on another level. A level many don’t or can’t understand. Genius.

by Gregatron on Mar 16, 2011 4:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll just leave this here...

In the history of college football, no player, no coach, no guru, compares with [Les] Miles’s masterful incorporation of applied chaos theory and time relativity into strategic game planning. Simply put, the man is on another level. A level many don’t or can’t understand. Genius.

by Gregatron on Mar 16, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I loved that play.

an outstanding Tiger pounce on a helpless prey…beautiful.

by Displaced Tiger on Mar 17, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

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