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Day Games and Parking Hell - A Preview of 2011 LSU Tailgating

As always, The Man (whether he's a programing director at a network or our own beloved university) is trying to harsh on the mellow of our tailgating utopia. Some say it is the perfect society, where the only currency needed is an open ice chest and room on the grill. Where our enemies are cursed by even the children, then buried in the bounty of our deep fryers for their trouble (or in the case of Ole Miss fans, just tossed straight into the fryer). It is a wild world to be sure, but it's one that thrives on the slow burn. It is this day-long marination of the Tiger faithful that produces the wildness of Saturday Night, the force that shakes The Valley.

But alas, utopia, it seems, is not meant to exist this season. Beset on all sides by interests that are not of the tailgating public, the hollowed grounds will be not be the place of the full day revelry we have come to love. The JP Devil has come to collect his due.

 


Tigers Football Schedule




Northwestern St. Sat 09/10 7:00 PM CDT



Kentucky Sat 10/01 TBA
Florida Sat 10/08 TBA



Auburn Sat 10/22 TBA



Western Kentucky Sat 11/12 7:00 PM CST



Arkansas Fri 11/25 1:30 PM CST

Thanks to the Kickoff matchup with Oregon, the home slate is already damaged, bringing the total down to 6 games. A confluence of scheduling means the home slate is also without a marquee OOC. Thankfully, the 2 OOC games we do have rank so far down the scale that they are both guaranteed night starts. The Demons from Natchitoches are certainly a TigerVision affair, while WKU has been tagged as this year's homecoming game, probably calling for an FSN broadcast. Both days will provide for near perfect tailgates, though campus never seems to fill out like it should for these games. Homecoming will certainly be a cozy November afternoon, but due to the complete lack of a September slate we should have a packed house and lawn for the home opener.

After seceding the Friday after Thanksgiving to the Iron Bowl for 2 years, LSU-Arkansas is back in the Tryptophan Classic spot, and has been confirmed for a 1:30pm start. The only way we see Saturday Friday Night in the home finale will be a multiple overtime thriller (which I am certainly not opposed to)

Now for the really bad news. With the exception of the emergency early start for the Appalachian St. game, LSU has not started a home game before noon since 2006. That streak will almost certainly be broken with the SEC home opener against Kentucky. October 1st is the weekend of CBS's primetime doubleheader and any SEC-SEC games that they do not select will have to be played in one of the 2 JP/LF/Raycom 11:30 am windows. With FloraBama and the 2010 SEC title game rematch both likely to be picked ahead of us, we'll have no choice but to burn alive under the early October sun.

It doesn't really improve from there. The home matches against Florida have normally been the choice of CBS, but with the only nighttime CBS kick being used the previous weekend, they will be doing only an afternoon game that weekend. The other SEC-SEC matchups CBS has to chose from may give us a chance to fall to an ESPN night game though.

Vanderbilt at Alabama
Auburn at Arkansas
Georgia at Tennessee
Kentucky at South Carolina

UGA-Tenn, if their seasons are panning out, may be CBS's choice. Even AUB-ARK is enticing. But if both Title contender LSU and under new management UF are on a roll, CBS will be certain to pick it up for a 2:30 start.

The last wildcard is Auburn, and this time CBS will really have no other choice.

Tennessee at Alabama
Arkansas at Ole Miss

The other SEC-SEC games don't jump out as the Game of the Week material, even if Auburn is way down this year.

EDIT: Shame on me for forgetting the 3rd Saturday in October. While it's no guarantee we get passed over by CBS, it certainly gives us a much better chance than I originally believe. It's at least the best chance for a night game of all of our SEC home games. 

So there you have it. LSU may not have a single SEC home game at night for the 2nd year in a row. Tailgating wont be a bust, but it certainly wont be the stuff of legend that a year of this potential deserves. 

And that's not even the worst part of it....

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Arrows indicate Post-game traffic flow

The other reason for tailgating problems next year is the onerous new parking regulations. First, lets get the good news out of the way. LSU has backed off of their original plans to charge $20 for parking in the big lots on the west side of campus. If you park in The Hayfield, the Levee Lots, or the Old Front 9 nothing has changed. If you park or tailgate on the east side of campus, however, there are BIG changes that you are going to want to start planning for now, especially if you have a large crewe.

(It should go without saying, but just to be clear: If you have season passes for any of the reserved lots in the heart of campus, none of the below applies to you. My only warning to those folks is to find a route to your spot that doesn't use Highland road, because it will likely be heavily congested much earlier than usual)

Parking in any of the areas marked in blue on the map above will now cost $40 dollars per game ($50 for trailers). To park in those areas you will need to buy a decal. There are 2 kinds of decals, both with the same cost, that are designed for the 2 major types of tailgaters. If you're the kind who wants to park Friday night and don't even think about moving until after the traffic clears on Saturday night, as I normally do, you'll have to buy an "OD" decal. The OD will allow you to park overnight in the blue areas above and keep your vehicle (or trailer) parked there for the duration. In my opinion this is the optimal solution for trailers or that one guy in your group who drives a van that holds everything. The OD decals can be purchased at varying locations around campus starting in the afternoon friday and lasting through the early morning Saturday. OD sales start at the Alex Box box office at noon on Friday, then moves to the Visitor Center on Dalrymple Drive and Public Safety Building on South Stadium Drive at 6pm. From 10pm to 4am they will only be sold at the Public Safety Building. Note that with the OD decal, if you leave the blue area after the area becomes restricted access at 4am Saturday, you will not be allowed to re-enter unless you purchase the other decal.

If you are the kind who packs up your truck and comes in Saturday morning, you are going to need the "GP" decal. The GP (also $40, $50 for trailers) allows for entry into the blue area after restricted access begins at 4am. The GP decal can only be purchased (in Cash Only) on the day of the game as you are entering the blue area. You will only be allowed to enter the blue area from access gates on either Dalrymple on the north side or South Stadium to the south. Again, it is the only one of the 2 decals that allows entry after 4am. Sales will stop if LSU determines the area is full.

For those working on your plan of attack, there is an important restriction to remember. Before 4am, including all night Friday, anyone is allowed into the blue area to drop off trailers, vehicles, and equipment. After 4am, no one gets inside the blue area without a GP decal. That includes getting in to drop off items. Also, all decals are one time use only. They will have to be re-purchased for every home game.

If I've left you confused you can try reading the rules your self at LSU's parking page. They've also got a handy map of all of campus that's clearly marked.

Many of you are now racking your brain thinking of the closest free parking area to your tailgate, especially if you are a Parade Ground denizen. What I have added to the map above is important to your plans. If you've been to campus in the last few months you are no doubt aware of the construction on the Southeast corner of Highland and Raphael Semmes. The area including all of the free parking lots behind the old president's house and the north side of the horseshoe dorms along the south side of Raphael Semmes are gone, reduced to rubble for the new construction (where they are building, you guessed it, a parking garage.) The free parking around the Law School is now going to be highly coveted and will certainly affect those of you who normally park/tailgate in that area (like you, LSUJOSHUA)

My suggestions for how to deal with this (besides grabbing your torch and pitchforks and marching on the AD's office) is the same as it is for anyone who would be tailgating for the first time: Get there earlier than you normally would and be respectful of your fellow tailgater. Anyone who's dealt with the ever-shifting post-game exit plans knows that LSU's track record in this area over the past few years has been spotty at best. Things will go wrong. There will be unexpected gridlock. Putting the access choke points right on Highland can do nothing but slow down the already snail-like pace experienced on that road. Those who chose to not play along with the new plans (and based on early reaction, it could be a lot of people) are going to find new spots to park and tailgate, and it's not like those spots will have been vacant in the past. Just remember the enemy is in the AD's office and on the east sideline, not the guy next to you with the deep fryer. Just be civil and hopefully we'll all get through this nonsense together.

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Thanks for reminding me, but not really ;)

As soon as I heard about this I knew the lots at the law school were about to get more competitive than ever. Not looking forward to it. And I’m really not happy about working harder for such a shittier slate of games. I love my alma mater and I love campus on game day, but with they way they are altering the atmosphere of Tiger Stadium and charging what they are, I’m considering becoming a tailgating only gameday fan.

I know, I know, LSU is on the cheap side of the SEC in tickets. But Podd, you more than any could attest to what the South Endzone used to be and where it is now and where it’s going in terms of the crowd, fun, rowdiness and spirit. And I’m not talking about drunkeness. This section used to be the greatest outside of the student section in terms of cheering and fun. It’s not too much fun anymore. Combine that with Northwestern and WKU among six home games and I was less happy than ever to cut my checks to the TAF and LSU.

The last couple of years have been pretty good in terms of amount and calibre of home games (some nice OOC games). But this giving away a home game so the Dallas/Houston or whoever get one is stupid and should end after this one time. Want to see a game? Come to LSU or hit the road to another site. I don’t want to subsidize the Tigers playing a game for some negligible benefit somewhere else. Basically, give me that one home game back with a good to great OOC opponent and I’ll continue to pay.

by LSUJOSHUA on Jun 21, 2011 7:13 AM CDT reply actions  

CBS Games

I’m pretty sure CBS picks up the sacred Bama – Tenn on the “3rd Saturday in October” every year regardless of the competitiveness of the match up. I think we have a better than 75% chance we’ll play Auburn at night. I think the Florida game is a 50/50 CBS proposition right now. If Florida is struggling through some rebuilding (which is pretty likely) CBS will take the Auburn – Arky game that day.

Maybe I’m just being optimistic but I think we have a pretty good shot of having 2 SEC night games. Also 1 home JP game every 5 years is about the best we can ever hope for, so we can hate it but we can’t complain too much.

Just a thought about the CBS double header. The past few years they have selected LSU to be a part of this or at a minimum picked Saturdays where LSU had a big SEC match up making LSU at least a possibility. But this year we have no shot at being part of the double header. I think a few of the other AD’s in the conference demanded that their schools get a chance to be part of the double header weekends and LSU got the short end of the stick.

by tigerarchitect on Jun 21, 2011 8:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd forgotten about 3rd Saturday in October (even though this year it's on the 4th Saturday)

It’s one of those rivalries that just doesn’t rate high with me, but is clearly a priority for both of the schools involved and the conference as a whole. That really changes my opinion on our chances for an Auburn night game, especially if AUB is as down as I think they are going to be.

Thanks for the reminder

Managing Editor/Chief Lackey-And The Valley Shook THE LSU Tigers Blog of the Week for 52,136 Weeks in a Row and Counting

by PodKATT on Jun 21, 2011 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

the other thing that really pisses me off

Bama and AU put up with being the Friday game for one round before crying and whining and got to go back to Sat. No one else has even done it yet. That piled on top of other scheduling injustices (moving our one classic rivalry, OM from Halloween) always pisses me off.

by LSUJOSHUA on Jun 21, 2011 8:27 AM CDT reply actions  

If I can offer a couple of comments

My tailgate is affected by the new parking plan as well, but I’m going to reserve judgment until I see how things actually work. And until my group can figure out our next move. But a couple of years ago everybody thought the new suites and the tradition fund would kill the atmosphere in Tiger Stadium and that definitely hasn’t happened, so keep that in mind. But I spoke with Herb Vincent this morning and he offered the following response, paraphrased:

- LSU did actually play an SEC night game last year — Mississippi State. 6 p.m. kickoff, it was just earlier in the year so it didn’t get dark as early.
- Six home games is going to be a rare exception, but if LSU is going to schedule some decent out-of-conference opponents, it’s going to take home-and-home series, so this is the trade-off. And the Dallas game is the kind of a rare opportunity that’s really tough to turn down.
- Just a quick quote on the TV Contract and morning games: "It should be noted that LSU officials — along with every other school in the SEC — were very involved in the development of the CBS/ESPN TV contracts, and many school traditions were protected. The new contract gives us the opportunity to play more night games than ever before. So 11:30 a.m. games will be at a minimum for LSU because our tradition is to play at night. We will have to play one on occasion, but we are not nearly as vulnerable to those early starts now as we were before the current contract."

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jun 21, 2011 9:38 AM CDT reply actions  

They keep saying they were very involved

But I really don’t see the result of their involvement. As I cited above, AU/Bama has played the Thanksgiving friday once (home and home) and now it’s back to us. Everyone who has a set game that weekend, I’m looking at you UT and UK should rotate.

And wow Herb, way to prove us wrong with the LSU actually did play….at 6pm in September. That’s just amazing work there buddy. That’s exactly the night time game tradition fans talk about.

I understand we play less JP games than most. But I don’t think LSU admin is winning when it comes to all other scheduling issues.

by LSUJOSHUA on Jun 21, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just because they're involved

Doesn’t mean they can just dictate terms. At the end of the day, the networks sign the checks.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jun 21, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not asking them to dictate terms

I would like them to show some damned backbone.

-We play every Friday after Thanksgiving while the rest of the conference (cepting MSU and OM in the Egg Bowl and Bama/AU once) have enjoyed that Saturday. Twenty years almost of a short week at a crucial time.
-Everyone got to keep their major rivalry Saturday (Ut/UF, Bama/UT) but LSU/Ole Miss Halloween disappeared and has never come back.
-We never (cept maybe once) get the back half of the CBS doubleheader. you know, at night.

Most everyone is getting what they want while we have continued to let our traditions fade away.

by LSUJOSHUA on Jun 21, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Twice on the double-header

Florida in 07/08. But that’s not something LSU has control over.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jun 21, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, three times actually

Florida 07/08/09…this past year was the first season CBS chose the Bama/Florida matchup.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jun 21, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

And CBS usually chooses what looks to be the single best game of the year for that slot.

LSU-Florida looked to be it in all three of those years. Well Except maybe 09.

"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7

by LSU Jonno on Jun 21, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Standard boilerplate about the TV contracts, I think he's got that speech memorized after the last few years....

I’m not blaming LSU for the start times. I think everyone understands that scheduling is all in the network’s hands these days. When you’ve got a TV deal worth millions, it’s expected you’ll have a bit of give and take. It doesn’t mean I have to be happy about it.

It also doesn’t explain why an Ath. Dept. that is awash in said TV cash (and is one of the most profitable AD’s in the country) feels the need to start charging for parking in more areas. The reasoning of wanting to better fund sunday’s cleanup efforts falls on deaf ears when you’re clearing nearly $10 million a year. Renting more work-release guys from the state and buying more trash cans can’t really cost that much.

Managing Editor/Chief Lackey-And The Valley Shook THE LSU Tigers Blog of the Week for 52,136 Weeks in a Row and Counting

by PodKATT on Jun 21, 2011 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree with the trash/work budget item

There are many mornings where I show up and there’s nothing there. We’ve always brought our own trash bags to be prepared, but it’s laughable how consistent the clean up preparation is.

by LSUJOSHUA on Jun 21, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

we have faced the same situation.

on top of that, i have seen the trash trucks on sunday morning going through, and in an area that was clean, they were so half-assed at throwing trash in the truck, a lot fell in the street and they just left it there. the area had been cleaner before the trash pick up crew came through. this is just an excuse, imo. dont punish those who do pick up trash because of those that litter. find a way to fine those that are pigs.

by OkieKATT on Jun 21, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

A slightly different perspective

I don’t live in Baton Rouge anymore. I haven’t been to a game in person since I was at LSU.

I love the Friday game at Thanksgiving and I think the game in Dallas this year is fantastic. Why? It’s great attention for LSU. It draws new fans to the game in Dallas and tons of new fans/recruits to watch the games on TV. It’s unfortunate this year that it matches up with the away game at West Virginia and a generally lax home game schedule…but the bottom line is – if we want to play one good OOC team a year, it means the years of 8 home games are gone. And that’s not all bad.

by GeauxTiger on Jun 21, 2011 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm okay with that

But give me something worthwhile. My trip to Seattle for the Husky game is just about my favorite trip. But don’t piss down my leg and tell me it’s raining regarding the number of games, the amount of profit the athletic department makes and then schedule Northwestern and McNeese because it’s all we could get/afford. That’s bullshit.

by LSUJOSHUA on Jun 21, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, I'm not defending Northwestern and McNeese

But isn’t that more of a political thing? Bertman liked to schedule the small LA schools in baseball to throw tickets their way. Isn’t it the same thing in football? It doesn’t make it right, but arguably they do it to keep the state legislature happy.

And if it is true that the program likes to play two patsies a year better that it be small LA schools than Akron.

by GeauxTiger on Jun 21, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are going to schedule Small LA schools

why has LSU never played that college 10 miles away. That is the real travesty! It would generate more interest than Northwestern.

Dirk Must Score 40 Tonight

by jharrison2090 on Jun 23, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

After seceding the Friday after Thanksgiving to the Iron Bowl for 2 years

Would it not be ceding?

"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav

by otisnixon'sparty on Jun 22, 2011 2:39 AM CDT reply actions  

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