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Jordan Jefferson Produces 25 Witnesses; BRPD Stuck on One

East Baton Rouge Parish - In a motion filed today with the 19th Judicial District Court, Attorney's for Jordan Jefferson—suspended senior quarterback for the no.3 LSU Tigers—assert that twenty five persons, yes TWENTY FIVE, have provided affidavit (sworn) testimony that Jordan Jefferson did not punch, kick or touch anyone in the August 19, 2011 bar fight outside of Shady’s Lounge, that led to his arrest and subsequent suspension from the LSU Football Team.

The witnesses range from by standers, club employees and alleged participants in the melee as well as fellow football players, at least one of whom was attacked—without provocation—by the self-proclaimed victim, Andrew Lowery, and probable instigator of the fracas.

Jordan has maintained his innocence from the beginning, telling his father, John Jefferson—who was contacted by a staff member from LSU Head Les Miles’ office—he had nothing to do with the fight, he knew better and had too much to lose.  He went on to say he tried to get some of his guys out of it and then left.

According to TWENTY FIVE people who witnessed to events, that’s exactly what happened.

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/852961-jordan-jefferson-produces-25-witnesses-brpd-stuck-on-one

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Its getting more and more obvious that Jefferson was not directly involved in the altercation, but would reinstating him at this point in the season really be the best thing for him?

I’m wondering if if Jefferson should wait for the outcome of the case, whether it makes it to court or eventually gets dismissed (which I see as unlikely), and plead to the NCAA for another year of eligibility based on extenuating circumstances. Now, I’ll be the first to admit that I don’t know any more (and likely less) than Joe Blow next door about how the NCAA operates, and based on the fact that he was violating curfew, tradition or not, it may not even be an option. I just don’t know. What I do know is that he has not practiced with the team since his suspension, and would be unlikely to get the starting job back until late in the season, if at all. As much as Jefferson likely deserves to be fully reinstated, I can’t see demoting Lee when he has done everything asked of him and done well as the starter. In fact, unless he was on a serious workout and individual practice regimen, he may even be relegated to 3rd string, at least for the time being. Obviously if pleading to the NCAA isn’t an option then just being reinstated to the team would be preferable and some small form of exoneration, but I don’t see things going back to the way they were with Jefferson as starter. There’s been too much water under the bridge at this point.

My opinion on the situation is that Jefferson and Johns are being wrongfully prosecuted in this instance, but CLM and LSU in general can’t really give them any more than moral support because they were in fact breaking team rules at the time. I think Jefferson is likely innocent of the alleged kicking transgression, but he was still violating curfew and hence violating team rules. Sure, a majority of the team was out there as well doing the same damn thing, but they didn’t become embroiled in legal issues while breaking curfew and were most likely “seriously reprimanded” during that week’s practice drills. Jefferson would have suffered the same thing if that was all that transpired. In my experience with “traditions” like this, a blind eye is turned to the team rule transgression, but if something serious happens while partaking in this “tradition” (i.e.- you get in trouble or get caught) you’re pretty much on your own. CLM did wait until arrest warrants were filed to suspend Jefferson and Johns. I don’t see how he could do much more.

I am also seriously curious as to whether it would be possible for Jefferson to plead his case to the NCAA for another year of eligibility. Does anyone know if this is likely or even possible?

by MuddyBayou on Sep 18, 2011 5:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't need to plead for an extra year..

Jefferson’s in his 4th year. If he doesn’t play this year, he is redshirted and has another year of eligibility.

It brings up the question, though, of what to do if he comes back. I think it’s clear that you don’t just hand him the starter job. But do you let him rotate in? Just let him be the backup and play when we need/want a backup QB in the game?

Les Miles gets paid tons of money to make those decisions.

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by Richard Pittman on Sep 19, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duh...

Not sure what I was thinking. “Red Shirt” never even crossed my mind. Must be the unusually low humidity up here in NW LA.

by MuddyBayou on Sep 20, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thought Provoking

To my way of thinking, your post raises at least 3 issues, all of which, I guess, are more fodder for speculation right now than definitive answers.

FIRST: Is there any reason for CLM and/or LSU NOT to reinstate Jefferson at this point? As is clear from my other posts on this subject, I am terribly bothered that LSU has decided that the BRPD – NOT a judge, jury or even the D.A.,but the BRPD – will control Jefferson’s future at this juncture. But for the BRPD’s decision to issue an arrest warrant (which, to my way of thinking is unbelievably specious), Jefferson would be guilty of nothing more than violating curfew, and presumably subject to the same punishment all of the rest of them got. I don’t think anyone, anywhere, would suggest that Jefferson should have been suspended solely for violating curfew. WELL GUESS WHAT? That’s all he is guilty of right now. In fact, the evidence as it stands right now appears to heavily weigh in JJ’s favor, and yet – because LSU decided to defer to the BRPD’s actions (regardless of how misguided) -JJ is paying the ultimate price.

What could LSU have done differently? They could have said, “This kid is clearly guilty of violating curfew, as were the others, and he will receive the same punishment for that violation as his teammates; nothing more, nothing less. However, he is innocent in the eyes of the law until proven otherwise, and we don’t fancy ourselves as judge, jury and executioner, regardless of what the BRPD thinks. Accordingly, we are going to let the legal process take its course, and in this country, JJ is innocent until proven guilty and WILL BE TREATED as if he’s innocent until proven guilty.”

SECOND: Is it best for Jefferson? Tough to say. If it means giving up any shot at a redshirt senior season that would afford him at least the opportunity to drive up his stock in the pro-draft, probably not. This kid won the starting QB job and had this season on a high profile national stage to prove his worth for the upcoming draft (hence his income and financial security for the future). By capitulating to the actions of the BRPD, LSU deprived him of that. They’ve made the wrong decision once; they need to try to fix it in the way that is best for this kid. Frankly, after the way he’s been left hung out to dry, I wouldn’t blame Jefferson if he tried to get his redshirt and transferred.

THIRD: Is it best for the team? Wow! That’s really a tough one for me. After watching the games and even factoring in JL’s RELATIVELY impressive performances, I still can’t ignore the fact that JJ’s presence gives us options that we’re going to need down the stretch. A perfect example is the 3rd & goal situation in the MSU game. I have no doubt we would have scored a TD in that situation had JJ been there. His ability to run in that situation opens up a huge universe of possibilities that we simply don’t have with JL back there. The same could be said of 3rd and 4-5 situations against good SEC defenses.

On the other hand, I think Miles – who thus far has proven himself an able crisis manager throughout all of this – would have one hell of a tough internal situation on his hands if JJ comes back now.

I am afraid that LSU’s precipitous reaction to the BRPD’s decision to issue arrest warrants has potentially caused more problems than they thought it would solve. One can only wonder whether the actions taken would have been the same if LSU wasn’t already under the NCAA microscope. I don’t think so. In any event, JJ is paying dearly for it, and I am afraid his absence will cost the team as it trudges the extremely difficult road known as the SEC West.

by Deluded on Sep 19, 2011 7:56 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm fine with Jefferson being reinstated

but under NO circumstances should he be allowed to start. I really don’t even want to see him rotate. We have been a much more established offense with one starting quarterback. We seem to have more of an identity with Lee starting. I just don’t think it is worth sacrificing for the sake of bringing Jefferson in on plays just for his scrambling capabilities. If Miles is even considering either of the situations mentioned, I would rather Jefferson just stay off the team.

If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten-George Carlin

by AcquiredPanic on Sep 20, 2011 1:49 AM CDT reply actions  

but under NO circumstances should he be allowed to start

So, the QB that was deemed by the coaches to be the best chance for us to win in the spring and fall during open competition, who was hailed by all the media as vastly improved and poised to have his best year ever, should be benched permanently because we seem to have an identity with Lee?

I doubt very highly that JJ will be handed the job back on a silver platter, nor should he be. However, I don’t doubt for a minute that he will be allotted significant play time to get him back in the mix and he will have an opportunity to earn his spot back or be the #2 in case something happens to JLee and that’s as it should be.

Is it lost on everybody that we have a new OC, more importantly a QB Coach? I think there are more things that have changed with our offense other than JJ in prison stripes.

Has anyone watched Maryland? I’ve watched them twice and was in awe of the familiarity of the blazing stupidity of it all. GC is a wonderful play designer, and his calling will work in spurts and until the opponents catch on. Look at their Red Zone scoring and compare it to our last three years. Now look at ours this year, and red zone is actually JLee’s weakness so far.

The difference isn’t the QB, its the organization of the offense and the flow of the play calling. Any of our top three QBs would be 3-0 right now, the question becomes who is ready to withstand the pressure Florida, Bama and R-Kansas is going bring at us?

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Sep 20, 2011 5:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Jefferson was highly touted last year by coaches also

Just because a guy does good in practice and spring games does not mean he performs well under pressure in a game. Why was Lee thrust into pressure situations when the game was on the line last year? I haven’t seen anything from Jefferson that deems him to be anything more than a scrambling quarterback with bad accuracy. We are a power running team, we do not need a running quarterback. We need a game manager who can pick up the first down or throw for a touchdown when he has to. I’ll take Lee’s arm over Jefferson’s legs any day. We have actually gotten production out of the quarterback position with Lee at the helm, how can anyone say that about Jefferson?

If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten-George Carlin

by AcquiredPanic on Sep 20, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, apples to oranges a bit here

Last year- different OC, different offense, more pre-snap Keystone Cop routines

and from what Southern Man said above:

The difference isn’t the QB, its the organization of the offense and the flow of the play calling.

This has more to do with our success than any actual statistical production.

I must create my belief system lest I be enslaved by another - Thomas Paine

by Curtis Bleaux on Sep 20, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

In addition

the adulation in the off-season was coming from far more sources than just Les and, Les was far more definitive in his praise than last year.

I think it is pretty safe to say that JJ would have shown a marked improvement over last year, just like Lee has.

Thanks Coach Krags!

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Sep 21, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

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