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All I know on the Gunner Kiel situation is that there is a 3 p.m. meeting with early enrollees and Kiel is not in attendance, per a source.

via Shea Dixon

Remember how this week was going to be better?

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This....

Is unbelievable

2011 #1 LSU 13-0 SEC Champions

by ChadP7 on Jan 16, 2012 4:26 PM CST reply actions  

Oh. My. God.

This seven days of hell just won’t stop.

by cbkao on Jan 16, 2012 4:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Seriously.

I'd rather not wait until I'm dead to figure out how to live.

by hooahsaint2.0 on Jan 17, 2012 5:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I've NEVER been the one

To jump into the QB controversy stuff and “Miles hates Lee” stuff but….you can’t doubt that this is because of what he saw Monday. If not that it’s because of the crap Bobby Hebert was shouting off. It’s all very confusing and frustrating.

2011 #1 LSU 13-0 SEC Champions

by ChadP7 on Jan 16, 2012 4:30 PM CST reply actions  

I have a hard time believing he saw something Monday

That made Brian Kelly and ND’s shitshow of a QB situation look good. If this happens, this is mama-driven.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 16, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I've had time to...

Cool down and realize you’re probably right.

2011 #1 LSU 13-0 SEC Champions

by ChadP7 on Jan 16, 2012 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree.

The kid had some serious stay-close-to-home issues. First Indiana and now this. Hope it works out for him. Last time a highly touted recruit like him kept going back and forth – they ended up being a bust anyway.

Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.

by Bamapride on Jan 17, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Keil seems sort of flaky

Not sure if this has anything to do with his brother leaving Indiana earlier in the day. This sort of feels like the Keenan Allen situation where he decommitted from Alabama to play with his half brother at Cal.

I wonder if his brother got an offer to play at Notre Dame

by Kenny483 on Jan 16, 2012 4:33 PM CST reply actions  

Michael Bonette...

Stated on the radio that Coach Miles had to answer the tough questions that Bobby Hebert was shouting off on national radio. I can’t help but think that his answers…I don’t know. I love this guy as our coach, an I’ve admired the hell out of him all season. This is all just frustrating and the QB situation is even more frustrating.

This can’t be because of the Lee thing? It can’t be!

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by ChadP7 on Jan 16, 2012 4:36 PM CST reply actions  

This feels pretty familliar

Cough zach lee cough

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by Chinese Bandit on Jan 16, 2012 4:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Zach Lee got 5.25 million reasons to not go to LSU

Plus he could probably pull a Weeden in 5 years if it doesn’t work out.

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Jan 16, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yawn

"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila

by Curtis Bleaux on Jan 16, 2012 5:14 PM CST reply actions  

Recruiting season, ladies and gents!

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by Jrlz on Jan 16, 2012 5:16 PM CST reply actions  

Perfect Now the Randall show can begin.

The contact that takes place when our defense is on the field is very sincere ~ Les Miles
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by jharrison2090 on Jan 16, 2012 5:59 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe the Mayan were right.

"The more important the game, the more sincere the contact." Les Miles

by lsufanfrommobile on Jan 16, 2012 6:13 PM CST reply actions  

I'm sure Kiel's early enrollment

Had something to do with Patrick Miller not being able to fit in this semester, and having to go to Auburn.

So Kiel screws us 2 ways…what a dick!

by WhoDatSaintsLSU on Jan 16, 2012 6:22 PM CST reply actions  

Not Kiel

that did it. Another QB was supposed to graduate in Dec and didn’t, which didn’t free up that scholly for Miller.

by cfbsection on Jan 16, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

But

If we knew ahead of time that Kiel wasn’t going to come here, then wouldn’t that have freed up a scholly of P. Miller to be an Early Enrollee?

by WhoDatSaintsLSU on Jan 16, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

Alabama fans, ask yourself this question: Is this who you want representing your University and your fanbase?

"Been saying it for six f**king years now...That g**damn hurricane just wasn’t big enough." - Outsidethesidelines, Manager, RollBamaRoll.com

http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/12/3/2607240/sec-championship-game-open-thread#

outsidethesidelines@gmail.com

by LSU Jonno on Jan 16, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

And

We stopped recruiting the other QB’s. I know Alford was a longshot, but he recently committed to USM. Now we HAVE to get Liggins and hope for the best

by WhoDatSaintsLSU on Jan 16, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

but we didn’t know Kiel wasn’t coming until today (still rumors), and Miller’s scholly was from another LSU QB that didn’t graduate on time and now it’s too late and Miller is enrolled at Auburn.

by cfbsection on Jan 16, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

has anyone thought about

obtaining the services of the chicken lady to get rid of the bad juju?

by OkieKATT on Jan 16, 2012 6:27 PM CST reply actions  

MOVE ON...............moot point to worry

He follows his sad azz brother,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,flaky kid for sure…………see ya! dont let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya…………cant worry about any of it until signing day and all the faxes come int as official, other than that why worry yourself over something we can not control……….

by hateallhaters on Jan 16, 2012 9:30 PM CST reply actions  

SB Nation Reports ND

Good luck to him. Have fun throwing to all those mediocre skill players, playing the service academies and having that troll Brian Kelly scream at you all the time. He could be the next Mitch Mustain, you never know. Lets move on.

by Memphisexile on Jan 16, 2012 9:47 PM CST reply actions  

So if this kid is a no show

we lose on him in the last hour, effectively making us lose out of a beast of an OL too…

Meanwhile, JL looks like Montana in the exhibition game tonight…

Do the wounds need any more salt?

by Xanathol on Jan 16, 2012 10:06 PM CST reply actions  

Lee

sure did look good tonight. I’m glad he got a chance to play somewhere.

I am on the Twitter

by cfbsection on Jan 17, 2012 1:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Not looking good...

This is a comment from a ND student on one of their threads. (He walked over to O’Neil Hall, where Kiel is supposed to be living at ND)

After walking over, I did not see Gunner. However, my friends in ONeill said that Gunner is in fact moving in tomorrow. This was not confirmed by twitter, or facebook, but rather their RA’s, who were told to get the room ready for an incoming student, one Gunner Kiel. BOOM. See ya tomorrow Gunner!

Also, saw this on Dave Berk’s twitter:

Very good source just informed me ND players have been told Kiel to be in class on Tue.

by WhoDatSaintsLSU on Jan 16, 2012 10:10 PM CST reply actions  

Also saw this on a ND Thread...

Well this makes a great night even better……..we cost them another recruit (P. Miller)….LOL……almost feel bad for them………but then you remember how their starting QB beat up a guy in a bar…….AND…….they let him play this year.

Karma…….reap what you sow……

by WhoDatSaintsLSU on Jan 16, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

41-14, and they feel sorry for us

Awesome.

I hope Gunner helps them sniff a BCS game for the first time in 5 years. Maybe he can even help them from getting blown out of it, losing in a merely respectable fashion.

by MikeDeTiger on Jan 17, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh well.

It’s not like we haven’t won championships with poor QBs in the past.

I'd rather not wait until I'm dead to figure out how to live.

by hooahsaint2.0 on Jan 17, 2012 5:14 AM CST reply actions  

?

We haven’t…

Was warren Rabb a poor QB or something?

LSU is an 800 lb gorilla. With a chainsaw as a penis.

by nasa1225 on Jan 17, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, sarcasm doesn’t translate in type well.

I'd rather not wait until I'm dead to figure out how to live.

by hooahsaint2.0 on Jan 18, 2012 2:46 AM CST up reply actions  

figured it was sarcasm

its just how you worded it. Made it sound like we won championships with poor QBs.

LSU is an 800 lb gorilla. With a chainsaw as a penis.

by nasa1225 on Jan 18, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Moving on....

"The more important the game, the more sincere the contact." Les Miles

by lsufanfrommobile on Jan 17, 2012 6:48 AM CST reply actions  

Latest report from USA Today
From what I have been told, he is no longer coming to LSU," recruiting expert Michael Scarborough of Rivals.com/TigerBait.com said Monday night. “He wants to come to LSU, but his mother (Aleta Kiel) got very emotional Monday and did not want her son to leave. He plans to enroll in classes at Notre Dame on Tuesday.”

“What has been relayed to me is that he wants to come to LSU, but his parents want him at Notre Dame because it is closer to home,” Scarborough said.


If this report is correct, looks like his family switched him at the last second. Maybe the same will happen to Landon…

by WhoDatSaintsLSU on Jan 17, 2012 8:03 AM CST reply actions  

Yes

12 of 17 for 170 yards with 2 td’s and 0 int’s

I am on the Twitter

by cfbsection on Jan 17, 2012 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

well, great for him...

a bit depressing for us – given last week…

What happened with Les?

by GeauxTiger on Jan 17, 2012 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

ahh, read the stories

well, the talent level did not look like it was very high – a number of FCS players…and the defense was limited to one blitzer on each play…

by GeauxTiger on Jan 17, 2012 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

"and the defense was limited to one blitzer on each play…"

If those were the rules every week Lee’d have been a four year starter.

Don't Panic.

by 4.0 Point Stance on Jan 17, 2012 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

He was just trollin' Miles.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Watched the second half---

Great touchdown throw in the waining minutes—- So Glad Jarrett was able to complete his college career on an up note. Now to move on.

by lioncity on Jan 17, 2012 8:53 AM CST reply actions  

Little Joe Montana just came available

from Washington, but he would have to sit a year.

"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles

by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Jan 17, 2012 9:07 AM CST reply actions  

Wouldn't touch him with a 10' pole

Neither of the Montana boys have lasted more than one season at any university without transferring.

Don't Panic.

by 4.0 Point Stance on Jan 17, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I was shocked Kiel committed here in the first place

So I’m not too upset about the loss. It’s like finding a $50 bill on the ground, then picking it up and realizing it’s a fake. You can’t get too mad, because it wasn’t really yours to begin with.

Anyway we can “afford” not to have a QB in this year’s class since we had two last year. This does put a lot of pressure on Miles & co. to get a QB in next year’s class though. Are there any highly touted rising HS senior QBs in Louisiana?

Don't Panic.

by 4.0 Point Stance on Jan 17, 2012 9:17 AM CST reply actions  

totally agree

my take as well. I just wish the portion of our fanbase with access to twitter would agree with us and not make shitty comments to 18 year old kids. I hate the bad press we get from stuff like that even though most other teams’ fanbases are just as guilty

by dallaslsu on Jan 17, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

not here to do anything else except share knowledge. pretty shocked myself.
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Notre Dame confirms Gunner Kiel has enrolled at Notre Dame.

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 AM CST reply actions  

My sports Monday
  1. recruit in the nation decommits from LSU
    Baylor loses by 20 points to Kansas
    Mike Green out 4-6 for the Caps for abdominal surgery.

And it was STILL a better sports Monday than last Monday for me.

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by Poseur on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM CST reply actions  

Amen

"Well, it's 1 a.m. Better go home and spend some quality time with the wife and kids" - Homer J. Simpson

by Gov. William J. Le Petomane on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Could be worse. You could be a Blue Jackets fan.

Not that I am, but that would be horrible.

by TheOtherAndrew on Jan 17, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

It would...

… because then I’d probably be living in Ohio. Worse yet, I might root for Ohio St.

Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
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by Poseur on Jan 17, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I said this when Collins commited to Bama

If you commit to a school you should be 100% sure that you want to be there, If you are unsure there is no reason to commit to a school only to change your mind a week, month etc, later. I think there should be a early signing period personally so that if you want to you can be done with it. If Kiel wants to go to ND then good luck to him but he should have committed to them originally or at least not waited till the day he was supposed to enroll at another school to “flip”. I know recruiting is a whirlwind and all but someone should have taken control of the situation before it got this far. Just my thoughts.
Geaux Tigers!

by Draco on Jan 17, 2012 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

On a personal positive note:

My son who is a junior at Alabama called to rub it in and DIDN’T ask for money.

"The more important the game, the more sincere the contact." Les Miles

by lsufanfrommobile on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

Does Gunner owes LSU a scholarship?

I don’t know the numbers but the line of thought is… We had space for 6 EEs, GK being one of them. Since GK is now not coming, I do not believe we have anyone who can fill that spot. So if LSU could sign 25 and had 25 scholarships to offer, plus had 6 EE scholarships open, have we not effectively ‘lost’ a scholarship for this class?

Now it could be we don’t have 25 to give and perhaps there is a way we could count one of the 25 back – I dunno – anyone here that does?

It already sucks to have this kid not just tease us but cost us a premier OT. If he effectively costs us a scholarship too… The Ole Ball Coach was right – kids need to be able to sign at any time during their senior year and have it binding – its best for the universities and other kids who are adversely affected by the decisions of others.

by Xanathol on Jan 17, 2012 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

No

Kids hold all of the power at this point in the negotiation, though the power will flip to the schools later on. I don’t get mad if a player gets cut because life is tough sometimes. And I don’t get pissed if a player reneges on a commitment because a verbal isn’t worth the paper its printed on.

He changed his mind. Better for him to figure it out now than a year from now. Good luck at Notre Dame, but he’s now just Tiger Bait.

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by Poseur on Jan 17, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I take it you are referring to my comment on signing at any time

and I don’t see a problem with it – you can still have meaningless verbals but give the ability for players to sign whenever. Look at the bind LSU is in and the Miller kid – if players could have signed a letter of intent at any time and Miller was willing to but GK was not, I guarantee you Miller would be here and not at Auburn.

Every year good players are put on hold for potentially better players and they are stuck with a choice – commit to somewhere they don’t really want to go or wait, running the risk that if a spot does not open for where they want to go, they may have nowhere to go.

The arbitrary signing date is just bad for all parties involved. By giving the kids an option to sign whenever, everyone knows who is really committed versus who is undecided or merely playing a juvenile game that hurts others.

by Xanathol on Jan 17, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

My prediction regarding LSU QBs for the next five years...

Mettentana will start the next two years, leading us to a national and SEC championship next year before returning for an all-american senior campaign that results in a BCS bowl and a visit to NYC for the Heisman ceremony.

Rivers or Randall will start the following year and be dependable starters leading us to at a BCS bowl.

Then, Z. Lee will figure out that playing minor league baseball sucks and will honor his original commitment and lead us to back to back conference and national titles.

Geaux Tigers!

by Displaced Tiger on Jan 17, 2012 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

Well, Boone is now staying

So there’s something positive.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

But but but

Lee, TBob, Miles is losing control, he fired Stud, drinking at harrahs, etc.

I wish I could find one of the guys that starts these dumb emails and punch him in the ovaries.

I hope Boone makes a leap- we will need a WR by committee next year with Randle being gone

by dallaslsu on Jan 17, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw that was really excited about him when we signed here and with OBJ and Shep

bas our (for now) starters we need a good possession receiver. But I hope Jarvis Landry takes a starting spot over Shep to be honest

by Draco on Jan 17, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

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