The Pain of Hope

by Poseur on Jan 20, 2012 7:45 AM CST in Football

It's been a week and a half, and it still hurts.

LSU had a historically great season slip through their fingers, capped off by probably the worst game the team has played in two years. It's not like the season wasn't full of accomplishments and triumphs - the SEC title, NICKNAME REDACTED making it to New York for the Heisman presentation, an undefeated regular season against the nation's toughest schedule - but it all pales in comparison to 21-0.

Why does the pain of the way the season ended somehow dwarf the joy of three months of dominant football? Such is the danger of hope. When you have hope, when you believe with every part of your being, it makes the crash that much harder. It's coming down off of the high, and coming down in a bad way.

OK, the almost unending stream of bad news surrounding the program in addition to the big loss hasn't helped. Recruits defecting, players going pro, and rumors of fights flying.* When the Wheel of Fortuna turned, she turned like a bitch. It was like the dam burst.

*ED NOTE - I know we've said this a few times, but stop reading the Columnist Who Must Not Be Named. He's a professional agitator and it's your own fault for getting riled up by the bile he spews. It would also be in your best interest to stop listening to secondhand rumors you got from guy who knows the inside scoop because his best friend's sister is dating the waterboy.

Hope and belief are wonderful things. Delusional Optimism is fun. Believing is more fun than not believing, but the cost is, well, these last two weeks. Losses hurt even more. When hope is crushed, it hurts. It hurts a whole heck of a lot, but you don't need me to tell you that. We all know exactly how much it hurts.

But that's what being a fan is about. The joys and the triumphs are meaningless without the suffering. No one likes losing, but losing is what reminds us how fun it is to win. Our joint suffering is what binds this deranged family we call the LSU fanbase. Well, that and lots of booze.

I can't say this has been fun, but most fan bases would kill to have our problems. Hell, I would've killed to have our problems 20 years ago. I sat in Tiger Stadium in 1993 as my beloved Tigers got beatdown 58-3 by Florida. Know what I felt?

Nothing. I think I went to a party after the game. You know why? Because it didn't matter. I had no hope LSU was going to win, and they certainly delivered. OK, 58-3 was a bit much, but it wasn't a painful loss that sticks with you. I was over it by the time my hangover wore off. And frankly, that sucked.

The absence of pain after a big loss means your program isn't very good. If this didn't hurt, then we didn't expect to win. And we do expect to win. This felt like our year. It felt like LSU was ready to post one of the all time greatest seasons in football history. Unfortunately, that was not to be.

The loss still hurts. But that's the good news.

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"The loss still hurts. But that's the good news"

That is a great quote. I remember a lot of those games from the 90’s. Our hope was just winning a game. Now, our hope is putting together one of the greatest seasons ever. When the bar is low and you crash, it doesn’t hurt so much. When the bar is high and you crash, it takes a while to recover.

by Displaced Tiger on Jan 20, 2012 8:02 AM CST reply actions

i think we knew going in

that this was the “all in of all ins”. the greatest win in lsu history or the worst loss. not showing up just made it worse.

i just hope for most, that this is a period to vent and that rationality finds its way back to most fans with time. Because its pretty scarce right now.

by TDTGodfather on Jan 20, 2012 8:36 AM CST reply actions

There are two aspects that make this hurt worse than I could have ever expected.

1) The fact that we didn’t compete in the game. I knew the game was over after our 3rd offensive series.

2) The recruiting losses after the game. The NFL stuff was a forgone conclusion. Maybe not to the extent that it happened, but still it should be expected. The recruiting losses are bad because it turned the perception of our loss from “well it’s just one loss” to, “hurting the future success of the team”. Miller and Kiel could both conceivably been in the 2 deep at their positions next year. And Miller is now likely to actually play against us next year given Auburn’s O-line problems.

Had we lost the game by 3 pts, and then inked a signing class in the top 5 in February I think this loss would be much easier to swallow. But given that our entire season now looks like a fluke based on how we played in that game (I know that isn’t true but that’s how it feels) and that the future doesn’t look quite as bright as it did two weeks ago it’s been tough to move on.

Alabama fans, ask yourself this question: Is this who you want representing your University and your fanbase?

"Been saying it for six f**king years now...That g**damn hurricane just wasn’t big enough." - Outsidethesidelines, Manager, RollBamaRoll.com

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by LSU Jonno on Jan 20, 2012 8:51 AM CST reply actions

I think what hurt the most

is that Bama gave us their best shot, but we didn’t give them ours. Gameplan was bad, but a bad gameplan that’s executed poorly results in losses like that one. If our OL blocked better or JJ didn’t drop the snap on 2 3rd downs or Hurst didn’t have 2 false start penalties, things could’ve been different. We made things harder on ourselves with poor execution. As a result, everyone thinks the Jan 9 game was indicative of the capabilities and talent of the 2 teams and the Nov 5 game was the fluke when in fact I think it was the opposite. Bama and LSU are much closer to 9-6 than 21-0.

by amiznit on Jan 20, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions

No, we didn't show up

I do think that makes the loss worse. Losing in the final seconds of a close game isn’t as painful as just not showing up for only the biggest game of your lives. That sucks because it felt like the team didn’t care (obviously, not true — they care more than we’ll ever know).

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by Poseur on Jan 20, 2012 9:38 AM CST up reply actions

This I agree with.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 20, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions

I absolutely agree

Losing a close game, while always painful, at least leaves some sort of pride on the field. Watching your team (at least half of it) fold up and die on the biggest stage possible……….it was such a hollow feeling it didn’t even hurt, just…..numb…

"Well, it's 1 a.m. Better go home and spend some quality time with the wife and kids" - Homer J. Simpson

by Gov. William J. Le Petomane on Jan 20, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions

the perfect foil to the MNC is the Saints-49ers.

Obviously, the Saints loss left many things to be desired, but they went down swinging.

by haveagreatday on Jan 20, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Exactly

"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila

by Curtis Bleaux on Jan 20, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions

this may be true of the offense

but i don’t think it holds for the defense. and bill connelly’s numbers tend to agree with that assessment. alabama averaged 34.8 points per game last year and we could only get one touchdown against y’all in four quarters of play. and even that was at the tail end of a game that was already decided.

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by kleph on Jan 20, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions

EIGHT quarters of play

i meant to say. the point being the lsu defense was just as stout on jan. 9 as it had been on nov. 5.

SB Nation's The Historical: Because all those games way back when matter.

by kleph on Jan 20, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions

+1 OT

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 21, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions

While I do think Bama had the better team

this year, mainly due to having more experience in the starting lineup, I certainly don’t think they’re 21 points better on a consistent basis. We’re understandably very proud of our defense for what will go down as the defining performance of a historically dominant unit, but you’d have to be some kind of homer to suggest that LSU didn’t contribute to that performance with subpar offensive play. Y’all had a helluva season and history will treat the 2011 Tigers very well, I’d think.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Jan 20, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions

Exactly

And I don’t mean to discredit Bama—they played brilliantly. They were ready and we weren’t.

by amiznit on Jan 20, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions

Careful Mr. Tadpole

you’re starting to sound reasonable. The Bama team that showed up in NOLA looked so well prepared that it was pretty clear that, barring some absolutely outlier effort from our limited QB or the most inspired play calling of all time, the game was over after the first series in the 3rd. At certain points, it seemed like Upshaw was in the huddle.

by haveagreatday on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions

It comes and goes.

by J Tadpole on Jan 20, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions

Well said, Tadpole. They (LSU) played lights out on defense in both games.

And LSU should be a terror next year. What’s really interesting is how close the play between our two teams has been over the last 4 or 5 years. Every game has been epic.

by burmbuster on Jan 21, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah

But given that our entire season now looks like a fluke…

The two biggest measures of how poor – inexplicably, impossibly poor – that performance was, are that there are people that actually believe this and that there are some fairly serious people who probably, in places they don’t let anyone see, think there’s some truth to the pre-game meltdown conspiracy theory. It was so miserable and so uniquely miserably as against the rest of the season that it almost cries out for an overarching, non-football explanation.

by Johnny Hutchinson on Jan 20, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions

It's like what psychologists said about 9/11 conspiracy theories

In people’s emotional states, they’re willing to concoct grand schemes for reasons why they didn’t win, or why a big event didn’t go their way. In their irrationality, a big event needs a big reason for imploding instead of what was probably the real reason for the event- just because (the cosmos doesn’t give two shits about your hopes & dreams).

"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila

by Curtis Bleaux on Jan 20, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions

Now this

But given that our entire season now looks like a fluke…

I think that’s entirely a matter of individual choice. LSU blew 11 out of 14 opponents completely out of the water, including two other conference champions. That ain’t a fluke in my book.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 20, 2012 9:23 AM CST up reply actions

What concerns me is the national image

The three games everyone watched were Oregon, @ Bama, and the MNC game. Now the narrative is “well LSU got lucky when Oregon dropped those fumbles for no reason, then LSU got lucky when Bama missed all those field goals.” Then we got our teeth kicked in. Therefore lots of people who don’t really follow cfb assume the MNC game is proof that LSU wasn’t really that good.

Those casual football fans weren’t watching when we beat WVU by 3 tds in Morgantown, or when we beat UT, Florida, and Auburn by 30+ points in consecutive weeks; they were more worried about their NFL fantasy teams. And, although this irritates me to no end, those people – the Tom Jacksons of the world – have an outsized part in driving the national perception of college football.

Don't Panic.

by 4.0 Point Stance on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions

Do we care about "casual football fans"?

I don’t. Voters and media know LSU was no fluke. If there was a fluke it was the NC game after 40 days off. No one called OSU’s year a fluke when we kicked the shit out of them.

We are preseason No. 1 – 5. No one that matters is thinking LSU was fluke, why should you?

"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles

by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Jan 20, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions

Thing is, national image is always going to ebb and flow at LSU

And it can turn around as soon as there’s a big win in 2012.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 20, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions

Tell them they can stop by the AD

and check out the SEC “fluke” Championship trophy we have.

"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila

by Curtis Bleaux on Jan 20, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Honestly,

I haven’t read one single write-up on the game save for anything this website has produced. So I don’t know what the national perspective was on the game. Nor do I ever want to know.

And calling the entire season a fluke isn’t something I believe, and it’s probably the wrong phrase to describe how I feel about the season…

Let me put it like this…The way we performed in the BCSNG prohibits me from buying an SEC Championship T-shirt. Which means this will be the only SEC Championship season in my lifetime for which I don’t own a shirt. That’s a weird way to describe the season, but I think you know what I mean…

Alabama fans, ask yourself this question: Is this who you want representing your University and your fanbase?

"Been saying it for six f**king years now...That g**damn hurricane just wasn’t big enough." - Outsidethesidelines, Manager, RollBamaRoll.com

http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/12/3/2607240/sec-championship-game-open-thread#

outsidethesidelines@gmail.com

by LSU Jonno on Jan 20, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah, I get it

I think a lot of us were going to be destined to feel that way no matter how LSU lost on Jan. 9, but it definitely gets worse when it plays out like it did.

But at the game time, like I said we have to kind of dust ourselves off and move on at a certain point.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions

Completely agree.

I think the spring game will be pretty important for us. If Mett looks like he’s the real deal, and one of the two younger QB’s looks good (for a young guy) I think that will take a lot of the sting off of losing Gunner and and build optimism for the next season.

Alabama fans, ask yourself this question: Is this who you want representing your University and your fanbase?

"Been saying it for six f**king years now...That g**damn hurricane just wasn’t big enough." - Outsidethesidelines, Manager, RollBamaRoll.com

http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/12/3/2607240/sec-championship-game-open-thread#

outsidethesidelines@gmail.com

by LSU Jonno on Jan 20, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions

Have I mentioned my new [quarterbacks redacted] stance?

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 20, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions

Generally a 24 hr rule is in effect

For the magnitude of the BCSCG had riding on it with the historicity, one week should be good. After that, we gotta man up & move on.

"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila

by Curtis Bleaux on Jan 20, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions

One week would have been good

Had the recruiting stuff and teabagging stuff not happened.

Alabama fans, ask yourself this question: Is this who you want representing your University and your fanbase?

"Been saying it for six f**king years now...That g**damn hurricane just wasn’t big enough." - Outsidethesidelines, Manager, RollBamaRoll.com

http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/12/3/2607240/sec-championship-game-open-thread#

outsidethesidelines@gmail.com

by LSU Jonno on Jan 20, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah, the hits kind of kept on coming.

But they’ll stop eventually.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 20, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions

The TP sports pages from the 2 days after the game are sitting on a desk in my house

I think this weekend I’ll finally be able to read it.

Don't Panic.

by 4.0 Point Stance on Jan 20, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions

13-1. 1 can't change 13.

One time our offense just never showed up. Not sure it would have mattered if they did. How many offenses showed up against our D and walked out beat. So we looked like shit on one side of the ball for 1/14th of the season.

Big game = big hurt. But you can’t get to the Crystal or Bust phase as a fan. In that case you will be miserable just about forever. No matter the team, winning it all is rare.

13-0 was amazing. Talk of best team ever still means it was one of the best ever. Erase the NC game, replay the OU game, and the UF, and the Bama, and GA, etc. Our team was great. Our coaches were great.

And screw Keil. Kid stayed close to home. It happens every year. We have a QB, we are fine.

"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles

by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Jan 20, 2012 9:05 AM CST reply actions

Nobody likes losing

but I always go back to something my dad would tell me when I was really little and would get mad about it. “So why don’t you cry about it!”

At a certain point we all just have to dust ourselves off, look at the big picture and keep on moving. The ride’s never smooth all the time, and we’ve gotten through tough spots before.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 20, 2012 9:26 AM CST reply actions

After the game, I had one of those re-examine your life kind of mornings.

Why do I feel as if I failed somehow? What profit is there in caring this much – which is to say, too much – about something I have zero control over? These are good questions. If my fanhood were rational at any level, I’d easily be able to answer them. If it were rational at any level, I wouldn’t be asking these questions to start with. So yeah, I took this loss personally, which is silly, but that’s the way I felt. I sympathize with all the anger. It’s legitimate (in the crazy world of college football fans, anyway). Everything looked terrible.

But it’s time for everybody to grab their Big Chief tablets and scribble out some screed against the universe and January 9. Then read it out loud one time and burn it. 13-1. We split with probably the most dominant Bama team in recent memory and blew the doors off just about everybody else we played, including two conference champions. We won the West and the SEC. Considering the ambition of the schedule, it was the greatest LSU season in modern history and should be remembered that way.

And, let’s not forget, LSU should be better in 2012. Think about that for a second.

by haveagreatday on Jan 20, 2012 9:59 AM CST reply actions

Yep.

"They play violent football at risk of injury for their team and for their school. The gift that I'm given is to be allowed to be on the sideline with them and coach them." Les Miles

by ZimmZimmZalaBimm on Jan 20, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions

Luckily...

… I’ve been working 70-80 hour weeks so I haven’t had much time to think about it.

Luckily, I have the Caps to break my heart this spring. And LSU baseball’s annual “Get Fucked Over By the Selection Committee” that I’m really looking forward to.

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by Poseur on Jan 20, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions

After the game, I had one of those re-examine your life kind of mornings.

Me too, and I decided that our fanbase is incorrigible and largely unable to change so I need to stay away from it.

I haven’t ventured to the boards because I just don’t want to fight. LSU took a beating, I felt sure the same truck ran me over and I can’t stand to hear LSU fans whine about who (one or two of our own) was driving.

My smart allek attorney (bama grad) signed an email to me yesterday “Thanks, Courtney Upshaw” and I just laughed, it’s ok they earned it.

But LSU fans will deride CLM and various players to death, not realizing that the negativity is harmful to the program, whether you are right, wrong or just plain have no clue; which is typically the case and I just need to focus my time and energy on other things in life.

LSU is in good hands(and thankfully he doesn’t listen to the BS) and ATVS is here for reasonable thoughts (for the most part) as to what is going on in Tiger Nation when I need to catch up from time to time but I think I’m going to spend this off-season doing some more important things.

Peace. Out.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

by SouthernMan on Jan 20, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs

That's a rec

"Well, it's 1 a.m. Better go home and spend some quality time with the wife and kids" - Homer J. Simpson

by Gov. William J. Le Petomane on Jan 20, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions

I'm in for the long haul!

"The more important the game, the more sincere the contact." Les Miles

by lsufanfrommobile on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM CST reply actions

How big it was

Reading this, I was reminded that there was the very real possibility that we’d play in the BCSNCG even if we LOST the SECCG.

The possibility that we could lose our conference championship game and still go, compared to the team to that didn’t win their division, their conference and had to hope the voters liked them more than OKST, puts some needed perspective on the season for me.

What a special team, even with the debacle that was our final game.

Additionally, the sting of not seeing 14-0 on the LSU pages of ESPN and SI is made a little less painful knowing how much the loss will motivate players.

And, it appeared to me, motivation, or the lack thereof, was part of the equation.

Next year, if this doesn’t propel the team to win games they weren’t supposed to win, I don’t know what will.

by Gonzeaux on Jan 20, 2012 12:40 PM CST reply actions

I don't think y'all will have any games

you aren’t supposed to win next year. Will be favored in every one, I’d imagine.

by J Tadpole on Jan 20, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions

The game in Baton Rouge was always going to be hard.

Considering the added motivation you guys have thru the offseason (and the bye week before), at least 25% of me fears a reckoning.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin

by Slice of Life on Jan 20, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions

Would have been interesting

if Georgia had won the SEC and LSU and Alabama still played in the BCSNCG. Just how bad the teams and fans from other conferences would feel.

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 21, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions

"Never confuse a single loss with a final loss"

"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila

by Curtis Bleaux on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM CST reply actions

the pain of the loss

The big thing I’ve taken away from this is exactly the point of not being able to experience the elation of winning without knowing the utter pain of losing. But there are a few things, some mentioned some not, that make this loss utterly gut wrenching.

We were embarrassed. We were embarrassed to see our team play the way they did, we were embarrassed that we knew the nation was watching and something we take so much pride in failed to show up, we were embarrassed that we were being talked about one of the greatest ever and couldn’t be. Being publicly embarrassed is worse than just losing.

We lost to a rival. And I don’t give a crap what Bama considers us, for a majority of LSU fans, Bama is our biggest rival. Losing to your rival always stings, losing in the biggest game to that rival is infinitely worse. Sometimes I feel I would have been less disappointed if we had lost in the regular season, and just played in the sugar.

Not only did we lose to a rival, we lost to the self-anointed patricians of college football. (Maybe this only applies to people like me with an unhealthy number of bama friends and acquaintances) Is there anything worse than losing to people who act like winning the NC is their birth right, I mean for some of them this is championship #35. They even take serious umbrage to the suggestion of the possibility that maybe LSU didn’t show up for this game. Sickening.

The biggest positive I keep telling myself is that now this team really knows what it means not to finish. If Miles wants to motivate someone all he has to do is point to this one failure. If the team needs to rally, they know what losing, really losing, feels like. That and the flip side of losing to your rival is that you get the chance in less than a year to utterly, mercilessly, ravenously destroy their souls in Tiger Stadium at night. And shit in their helmets.

by tigerarchitect on Jan 20, 2012 1:32 PM CST reply actions

THIS

you get the chance in less than a year to utterly, mercilessly, ravenously destroy their souls in Tiger Stadium at night. And shit in their helmets.

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

by WhoDatSaintsLSU on Jan 20, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions

we'll (Bama, enjoy this site though) still be the underdog in that game

which will help Bama very much.
but a night game, in Tiger Stadium, on CBS, revenge revenge revenge etc…it will epic no doubt – but it will not be a blowout it in either direction. Should be brutal.

i've been fallin' so long it's like gravity's gone and i'm just floatin'...

by JunctionCrimson on Jan 21, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions

NICKNAME REDACTED

I recognize that the nickname snowball was largely created and perpetuated by the national media, but it was certainly embraced by the fan base. I’m curious if this comment is indicative of the fan base’s general sentiment (let the name die) moving forward.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin

by Slice of Life on Jan 20, 2012 2:01 PM CST reply actions

I always thought it was stupid.

When your name is Tyrann, you don’t need a nickname.

by TheOtherAndrew on Jan 20, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions

Better than Sh*t Tyrann Says

As far as meme’s go, it could have been worse.

by Gonzeaux on Jan 20, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions

you guys don't like "honey badger"

I love that nick name. It is a brand that has extended far and wide. I saw danica patrick say she loves the “honey badger.”

by Zandor435 on Jan 20, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions

It's because....

Of the cease and desist by LSU

The Sky is not falling

by ChadP7 on Jan 20, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions

Right

I’m making fun of the NCAA’s policy of “only we are allowed to make millions of dollars off of unpaid employees.”

Fake Pundit. Real Fan.
And The Valley Shook!
I self-indulgently tweet @ATVSPoseur

by Poseur on Jan 20, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Jan 21, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions

ah gotcha...

Definitely not worth losing eligibility over but still sort of sad it happened. It’s not like he was making any money off of it himself.

by allan8147 on Jan 22, 2012 5:20 AM CST up reply actions

I agree

Im miserable , but there’s a silver lining 2012.

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