AL fan Downing's lawyers: "ain't no crime, he was just joshin'"
by Gonzeaux on Jan 27, 2012 10:34 AM CST
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PrintUnbelievable.
I know this is only tangential to the BCSNCG or even college football, but it seems relevant enough to share.
Someone ask those lawyers if they'd get as far with that argument if the victim was a woman or a child. This is going to backfire on them in a big way and Downing and, by extension, AL fans are just going to look like neanderthals to the rest of country. Hell, it'll probably end up tarring LSU and SEC schools. Of course, ESPN will do a special hour long film directed by Morgan Spurlock on unruly fans and out of control football programs in the South, spending half the film on the Shady's bar fight and showing all the useless cell phone footage they can get their hands on. And next thing you know Rush Limbaugh will have Downing on the show to talk about how it's a shame that men can't just show their johnsons whenever they want, much like dogs can go around without underwear, the irony will be lost on all of them, and the real crime will get lost in the misleading fog of disinformation.
Lawyers: Downing charges demean 'actual' sexual violence victims
Again, unbelievable.
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Someone ask those lawyers if they’d get as far with that argument if the victim was a woman or a child.
You think he would have done it if it was a woman or child? I don’t.
They aren’t saying that it wasn’t a crime, but I would agree that treating him as a sex offender is a bit ridiculous. No way this guy should do serious time. Maybe some days or months, a heavy fine.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
Really?
You think that a guy who has no qualms about pulling out Mr. Happy in a public restaurant and being filmed while doing it is going to have enough personal restraint (or a conscience) to not do that to someone of the opposite sex?
Definitely.
Teabagging to some people is a prank that you pull on your buddies when they pass out. Yes, it’s gross and immature. It’s a ridiculous act. But even among people that would be inclined to do that kind of thing, I don’t think they would view it acceptable to do it to a woman or child. And yes, he showed a lack of judgment in doing it to a stranger in public, but I think it would take a lack of judgment on a whole other level for him to do it to a woman.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
This wasn't some guy joking around with his buddy.
This was about humiliation, just like many sexual assault crimes are. I’m not saying the guy deserves to be locked up for 20 years, but this is a pretty serious scenario.
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by TheOtherAndrew on Jan 27, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
This is insane
As a person who has suffered a simliar suffering at the hands of others, if i had ben armed at the time i would have shot him. He deserves far worse than jail time.
He deserves far worse than jail time.
yea, okay. Lets put him in the electrical chair for pulling a distasteful prank.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
You kidding me?
Prank? This could change someones life its so humiliating. Yes, in a true justice system he would suffer jail time.
Definition of sexual battery in Louisiana
A. Sexual battery is the intentional engaging in any of the following acts with another person where the offender acts without the consent of the victim, or where the act is consensual but the other person, who is not the spouse of the offender, has not yet attained fifteen years of age and is at least three years younger than the offender:
(1) The touching of the anus or genitals of the victim by the offender using any instrumentality or any part of the body of the offender; or
(2) The touching of the anus or genitals of the offender by the victim using any instrumentality or any part of the body of the victim.
by cbkao on Jan 27, 2012 9:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So
He falls in the second category. You Bama fans really are something else. Him registering as a sex offender in Alabama probably won’t be so bad since he’ll be made into a local celebrity like Y’all did with Updyke.
by cbkao on Jan 27, 2012 9:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just like all PSU fans are child molesters
All Bama fans are in favor of teabagging LSU fans and killing trees right? This guy doesn’t represent the state of Alabama or the the school and he most certainly doesn’t represent me.
"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."
Did I ever mention that all Bama fans
Support him and Updyke? No, but what I will say is that a good portion of Bama fans coming forward are to defend him not being a sex offender and playing this off as big deal it was a prank. And I’m sure you’ve seen all the pictures of bama fans posing to take pics with Updyke like he was a celebrity. Its making the good portion of your fan base look classless
by cbkao on Jan 27, 2012 9:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
A good portion huh?
That simply is not true. On both accounts but you can view Bama fans however you like. About the kid, he has whatever is coming to him. He certainly earned it.
"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."
by Aaron.50cal on Jan 27, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
We can agree on the man (not kid, he's 32) should get what is coming to him
And I’ll say I meant that the good portion of bama fans that are speaking are defending it in some degree. Now the second time I mentioned good portion I meant as in the good fans are getting a bad name from the other portion defending his behavior as a prank. As no doubt it must piss off fans like you to see this type of behavior from some of your fan base. Also I know this whole situation could be reversed and some of our fans would be vocal about it not being a sex offense and they too would be wrong. But Bama fans have a bad track record recently with this and Updyke.
by cbkao on Jan 27, 2012 10:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If you are 32 and teabagging on camera i'm not sure
how much of a man that makes you. Look, it’s easy to point the finger and say what a messed up fan base is when the spot light is off you.
"Tommy, completions are way more awesome when you force them through triple coverage." ----Brett Farve (look-a-like)
by Aaron.50cal on Jan 27, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe I misread it
but I thought he meant the portion that is good, not the larger portion of the fanbase. so, the douches who support this guy make the good guys look bad since all we’ll see online are pics posing with Harvey Updike and now this guy
by ORtigerfan on Jan 27, 2012 11:08 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
And by the way
Two totally different situations. Paterno never molested anyone. That Bama fan was caught on tape violating a passed out man. So I guess if Paterno would have been caught on film molesting kids and the penn state fans still supported him then yeah I’d say there was something wrong with that fan base too.
by cbkao on Jan 27, 2012 10:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We can't discuss this
if you honestly believe that there is something wrong with the entire Bama fan base.
"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."
by Aaron.50cal on Jan 27, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Once again where did I say entire? I wa talking to a guy defending the dudes action and meant by you Bama fans as in the ones defending it but take it how you want.
by cbkao on Jan 27, 2012 10:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well if that's the case
then I mis-understood what you were saying. Your last line is what confused me. I thought you meant, too, as in PSU would have just as messed up fan base.
"Tommy, completions are way more awesome when you force them through triple coverage." ----Brett Farve (look-a-like)
by Aaron.50cal on Jan 27, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
No problem
Misunderstanding are probably why 90% of blog arguments happen (just pulled a percentage out my ass on that one). I take no offense to you sticking up for the good/descent portion of your fan base as you seen to be one of them.
by cbkao on Jan 28, 2012 9:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I wasn't defending his actions at all.
I said it was disgusting and a crime that he should do some time for, but not serious time and be labeled as a sex offender.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
I honestly believe that there is something wrong with the entire Bama fan base
this and Updyke just affirms that belief. Something is definitely wrong with any fanbase that claims almost double the amount of national championships they have when the real number is already amazing. The culture of cheating that is part of Alabama’s history adds to this as well (although I don’t think Saban is cheating).
I like orange and I am a dog person
"I'da double bagged it."
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
He may end up in jail for a while: someone may double bag him several times
(Martin Landau) Bela Lugosi: How dare that a****** bring up Karloff? You think it takes talent to do Frankenstein? It's all makeup and grunting.
--From the movie Ed Wood
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
He's definitely down
with sending pics of his junk over the interwebz.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Making him a sex violence victim.
Nice sig.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 28, 2012 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
I don't want that to happen to him, but sometimes it happens in those places...
If he does time, I hope he just serves it without something like that happening to him. Regardless of how it turns out, maybe he won’t go around just joshin’ next time and understand what he did was quite serious no matter how it stacks up to other crimes.
(Martin Landau) Bela Lugosi: How dare that a****** bring up Karloff? You think it takes talent to do Frankenstein? It's all makeup and grunting.
--From the movie Ed Wood
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
and thanks, I love that movie...
(Martin Landau) Bela Lugosi: How dare that a****** bring up Karloff? You think it takes talent to do Frankenstein? It's all makeup and grunting.
--From the movie Ed Wood
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
I hope it doesn't happen, either.
But if it does, he has himself to blame.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 28, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Just joshin’
Sandusky said something similar. Of course, Sandusky’s crimes were numerous and heinous. But Downing did enough to do time. Ironically, this husband and father may wind up becoming someone’s bitch.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 28, 2012 12:18 AM CST reply actions
Rush Limbaugh
doesn’t have guests on his show.
Audemus jura nostra defendere
"What makes a second chance worth having comes from taking advantage of it, from correcting the mistakes you made and burning for redemption. Not wishing for it. Earning it." -Cecil Hurt, 10 JAN 2012
By the letter (and intent) of the law,
this was a sex crime. But I really don’t think Mr. Downing had any real sexual intent or gained any sexual thrill from his actions. It was a stupid show of dominance by a stupid person. I don’t care what team’s colors he wears, I’m not going to paint an entire fanbase with one brush. Prosecuting this fool to the fullest extent of the law will only serve to galvanize the fringe elements of both LSU and Alabama fanbases, and that’s the last thing we need.
That said, society has a set of rules that we all agree to abide by simply by exchanging oxygen for carbon dioxide. It has not ever been nor should it ever be socially acceptable to rub your beanbag on another person, ESPECIALLY in a public place. Mr. Downing has already lost his job, is probably in the doghouse with his wife, will likely be a pariah with his family, and I’m guessing has little dignity left. Excessive jail time won’t “teach him a lesson”. Five will get you ten he realizes how badly the pooch has been screwed, and he has to live with himself for the rest of his life knowing he is a complete dipshit. My suggestion would be to give him a minimal jail sentence, have him issue a public apology, and perhaps a small fine. Registering as a sex offender won’t do anything but haunt the dude for the rest of his days, and I’ve got the feeling he’ll be haunted regardless.
I’ve done some incredibly stupid things in my life that I deeply regret. I have paid the price, and I have to wake up every morning, look at myself in the mirror and recognize that I did some incredibly stupid things. That, in my opinion, is a worse punishment than any jail sentence. My 2 cents which is worth exactly what you paid for it.
"I'm not black like Barry White, no I am white like Frank Black is"
by DrBundy on Jan 30, 2012 9:25 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Prosecuting this fool to the fullest extent of the law will only serve to galvanize the fringe elements of both LSU and Alabama fanbases, and that’s the last thing we need.
that, but also I don’t think this guy is really a threat to society at all. Why make him a burden on the state? Prisons are overcrowded. Money is tight for states. Maybe you can say it would be serving justice. We all have different ideas on that.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
Actions have consequences.
A minimal jail sentence wouldn’t be any more of a burden on an overcrowded system than the NOPD arresting someone for having a joint in his or her pocket. I’m not advocating the guy to go away for much longer than say 30 days to reinforce that actions have consequences. Again, it is not socially acceptable to rub your genitals on someone in public, drunk, sober or otherwise.
"I'm not black like Barry White, no I am white like Frank Black is"
Actions do have consequences. Minimal jail time plus
public apology, fine, and community service.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 31, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe this guy has been prosecuted yet
only charged. And I’m fairly certain district attorney’s aren’t going to come out and say “it’s okay, we’re only going to ask for probation here” in a case like this, regardless of the sentence they’re seeking.
Y’all acting like the guy is standing at the gallows is no less dramatic.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Feb 2, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 31, 2012 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
this is the most shocking thread i've ever read on this site
if it was up to you people a lot of my friends (most of which are successful family men with no criminal records) would all be doing hard time for some of the things that happened at 4am after someone made the mistake of passing out too early. y’all should have gotten out more in your early 20’s. did all these people commenting actually go to lsu?? i feel like i’m reading a thread on [whatever the clever name for byu’s sbn site is].
all that said, if you do this in public and on camera, you deserve to be punished for being stupid as much as anything else, but the dude doesn’t deserve time in agnola for god’s sake.
"yall should have gotten out more in your early 20s"
To think, I missed out on so many opportunities to rub my balls passed out dudes.
A boy has never wept...nor dashed a thousand kim
by Yail Bloor on Feb 1, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
No kidding
His comment could not be more funny…men with “no criminal records” would be doing hard time…well maybe there would be a reason for that, genius.
reason for what?? genius.
my point was we made some less that intelligent decisions, but nobody deserved to be labeled as a criminal or go to the state pen.
All the people here are saying
Is that someone who broke a law should deal with the punishment associated with that. So when you say “if it was up to you people a lot of my friends would be doing hard time..” it’s not like we’re crusading for the death sentence for someone who litters. The guy broke a law, and the attached punishment could be being labeled a sex offender. Actions have consequences, and this is a pretty disgusting action.
way to jump to conclusions
did i say anything about rubbing balls on anyone?? we were being 22 and doing dumb (but ultimately harmless) shit while most people on this thread were apparently preparing for a life of being high and mighty.
You certainly associated it with
the sort of thing people have, and I’m quoting.
have gotten out more in your early 20’s
So if you feel like you were misunderstood by YB, I suggest you rephrase yourself.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Feb 2, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i don't know if i was misunderstood
so much as there is some selective reading going on. everyone seems extremely focused on me trying to explain that this type of behavior is more common than a lot of you apparently realize…albeit by drunken college students. i agree with everyone that if you’re 32, and married with kids, and in public, and on camera, etc, etc…then you can’t be doing something completely asinine like this. however, in my opinion, that also doesn’t mean this dude should be a registered sex offender as some people are saying. i think we all agree that what happened was a crime to some degree, but the punishment is where we differ. since everyone clearly had their torches and pitchforks ready to go before i got here…go ahead and fry his ass…what do i care.
and thanks for the suggestion, you’ve been a big help.
I wonder if you'd feel the same way
if, say, the victim here was an Alabama co-ed whom decided to take a nap in Alabama’s quad between classes.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
no i wouldn't feel the same way
and it has nothing to do with what team the person pulls for. if this had happened to a female lsu fan everything changes. just like if some dude punches a female versus punching a male…changing these “minor” details changes everything. now if we’re going to keep cooking up various scenerios to see how many sexual predators i’m willing to register we’re going to be here a while.
Well, your opinion of the differences in details
is just that, an opinion. One that I don’t think the authorities in either state would share. Maybe if I shared your idea of what constitutes harmless drunken revelry, I might agree lol.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
And as for the last line
we’re not the ones here defending the guy lol. If you don’t like doing it, there’s a Bama blog where I’m sure you’re wanted.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
and that attitude
is part of the reason everyone around here is so ready to crucify this dude…b/c of the time, the place, and the color shirt he was wearing when it happened. if this video pops up on youtube of an lsu fan doing it to another lsu fan, nobody wants to punish the guilty party to the fullest extent…except maybe the victim. and i wasn’t defending him so much as i was trying to bring some perspective to this little mob justice party.
its also that attitude that probably helps one particular “bama blog” blow this blog’s doors off. so you win…i’m out.
and the valley shook—“if you ain’t like-minded…hit the road.”
LOL seriously?
I’m not really sure what’s sadder here. That this happened, that it was taped, or that there are actual Alabama fans here defending the guy (and throwing out this whole “he shouldn’t be sent off to Angola” – as if anybody in this thread has even called for that), or that there’s a dumbass like you pretending that you’re somehow above partisanship. You’d be defending him if the colors were reversed? Fucking spare me.
And if you don’t like it here, you can stay the fuck away and go fun like you’re in your 20s again. I’m sure you have friends that enjoy having balls on their face.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Yup a pretty sweet Bama blog
That wishes Katrina had been more devastating. Classy all the way around.
Somebody deleted those posts.
Completely gone. And that really sucks, because the rest of us have to be responsible for our words.
"I'm not black like Barry White, no I am white like Frank Black is"
OTS deleted them without so much as a word?
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Feb 3, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Don't know if it was OTS or another person with editing rights.
It kind of chaps me because the rest of us poor schleps have to stand by what we type. I’m not calling for an edit function for regular users because I believe that online should be just like real life; you have to be held responsible for what you say, or in this case type. Enough people saw it and commented – both against as well as in support of – that no one can deny it happened, but you can’t find that part of the thread any more. We’re left to draw our own conclusions as to who did what with the offensive posts.
"I'm not black like Barry White, no I am white like Frank Black is"
Agree
If it was him, that’s pretty cowardly to do so without any word. Like he’s trying to pretend it didn’t happen.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Hey Bama's all about Mulligans these days, amirite?
"The 2011 Tigers, on the field at least, are boring. See target, swing war club, rinse the brains and skull fragments off and repeat." - Billy Gomila
by Curtis Bleaux on Feb 7, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
they also wrote up Joe Paterno like he was some saint
and not someone that protected and enabled a pedophile for 10 or 20 years (same guy who wished Katrina was bigger, the head admin there). great place.
I thought when we invited A&M that we had a cult, but I was wrong, We had a cult all along and it’s Bama. They worship winning and ignore everything that matters.
nemo me impune lacessit
Lol....No
"Tommy, completions are way more awesome when you force them through triple coverage." ----Brett Farve (look-a-like)
go back and look at OTS's and Kleph's eulogies for Paterno
go look around the internet and find any number of Bama fans defending Saban and Bama for how they treated the Philon kid and oversigning in general.
Hell, yall don’t even care you didn’t sniff the SEC title but played for the natl title.
Winning is all that matters to Bama. Everything else is secondary. or worse, inconsequential. Laugh all you want, in the end, Bama and its fans are the laughing stock.
nemo me impune lacessit
Cmon man,
you want to get into oversigning when LSU is in the same boat as Bama. Your assessment of Alabama and it’s fans is wrong at best. I’m not going to debate the rematch for the Title because what’s really the point? I had no control in the selection process and neither did you, none of us did. So why should we feel bad for winnning the Title game? LSU had been the “laughing stock” at the start of the season because they were winning. That’s what happens, when a program is on top people will do whatever they can to knock them down a notch. Just like you are doing by lumping all Bama fans into one section and turn a blind eye to all things LSU.
"Tommy, completions are way more awesome when you force them through triple coverage." ----Brett Farve (look-a-like)
you want to get into oversigning when LSU is in the same boat as Bama?
Do tell.
How is Bama and LSU in the same boat?
Please explain.
(You can’t because we are not, period. Don’t care what some off-base ESPN hit piece said, or what the lazy, out of shape blimp who couldn’t got cut because he was dead weight—and a lot of it—and who has since not been able to make it at McNeese or Ole Miss said, we are not even in the same river, never mind on the same boat.)
As to the mulligan, you got it, used it and it worked out for you. Congrats; see you on 11/3/12 for the regular season game, those mean something in the BCS, oh wait…
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Looks like SouthernMan was to blame for the strikethroughs.
Gotta close those tags, dude.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Yea, I did that
didn’t realize it was on everybody’s screen and I had no ideal how to fix it!
Sorry/thanks!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
It's clear
you have your mind already made up. If a hit piece can’t put you in the same river as us, then there is certainly nothing that I can see to change your mind. As far as 11/3/12, can’t wait, probably will decide who the home team is for the Title game.
"Tommy, completions are way more awesome when you force them through triple coverage." ----Brett Farve (look-a-like)
I didn't think this thread was about oversigning or
the BCSNCG.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Feb 10, 2012 3:49 AM CST up reply actions
Didn't an LSU signee arrive on campus a couple of years ago to find out he had no scholarship.
You had no problems with Miles oversigning or Saban, for that matter. As long as you win championships.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Feb 10, 2012 3:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This guy is 32...not some dumbass tweny-something
And he didn’t do it to a passed out buddy. He did it to a passed out stranger. Even a 22 year old should know that you don’t rub your junk on passed out people, much less a passed out stranger…in a burger joint…on camera.
by Displaced Tiger on Feb 2, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
and he is married with kids
(Martin Landau) Bela Lugosi: How dare that a****** bring up Karloff? You think it takes talent to do Frankenstein? It's all makeup and grunting.
--From the movie Ed Wood
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
you certainly didn't condemn it
and that’s what the thread is about. Don’t see what other conclusion we are supposed to reach
A boy has never wept...nor dashed a thousand kim
read the last line of my original post again
it’ll only take a second. “deserves to be punished.” i’m just saying let’s make sure the punishment fits the crime, but that ship sailed a long time ago around here.
The punishment may actually fit the crime
Since its a clear cut case of sexualy battery by definition, now they might plead down to lesser charge and all this sex offender argument goes away. But the dude was sexually assaulted and over a million people saw it in the Internet. You think he feels Downlin or whatever his name was should just make an apology and get little as possible time served? But like many times people forget about the victim(s) and only talk about the offenders rights.
by cbkao on Feb 3, 2012 6:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Would you trust that guy in a room with your wife, girlfriend, sister, niece, cousin, or other female family member?
I honestly don’t understand why people think he shouldn’t be classified as a sex offender. Sexual battery carries a consequence with it, and part of that consequence is being a registered sex offender. Is this guy a sex offender? Go back and watch the video again. He assaulted a person who was so drunk they were passed out. Period.
When your first thought upon seeing an unconscious person, regardless of gender, is that you want to sexually batter them, you have problems. End of story.
People trying to defend this as a prank are just as guilty as the idiots who stood around and cheered him on and didn’t stop this while it was happening.
The reason for all of these "sex offender" laws
is that a lot of your sexual deviates are compelled to repeat their crimes. Your serial rapists, molesters, etc. Sex offender laws are there to protect the public from those kinds of criminals. But you end up with a lot of people lumped into this category that really don’t need to be. This teabagger or some 18 year old kid that has consensual sex with a 17 year old are lumped in with your Jerry Sanduskies. That’s what I don’t like about this whole “sex offender” thing.
Would you trust that guy in a room with your wife, girlfriend, sister, niece, cousin, or other female family member?
Hmm. If it was a choice between the teabagger and a random non-white collar criminal from whatever prison he gets sent to, I would choose the teabagger for sure.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
Nah
I think this guy’s an idiot, and if his punishment is wearing that tag for the rest of his life, so be it.
I will say that your scenario of the 18 year old kid having consensual sex with his 17 year old girlfriend is ridiculous, and it’s incredibly sad that the law covers them too.
Didn't an LSU signee arrive on campus a couple of years ago to find out he had no scholarship?
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Feb 10, 2012 3:43 AM CST reply actions
Was told in advance and didn't believe it
And has since come back to campus.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Feb 10, 2012 8:33 AM CST up reply actions
OK.
Why is everything crossed out?
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Feb 10, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Ha ha
Glad it’s not just me, was wondering the same thing.
by cbkao on Feb 10, 2012 9:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
My guess is that its something to do with how off the rails this thing has gone.
It’s not my doing, assure you.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Feb 10, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
Lemme see
if I can help y’all out.
Fixed?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Either way, this'n has run its course I think.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Feb 11, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
You reckon?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
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