Jeremy Liggins Commits!
by Paul Crewe on Jan 30, 2012 7:45 PM CST
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Image from Liggins commitment announcement in the heart of Oxford, MS, via SBN Atlanta's Steven Godfrey
I wrote about Jeremy last week. Liggins is from Oxford (I know, feel sorry for him). Rivals lists him at 6'3, 270 lbs, but some recent reports suggest he may be more like 6'4, 290+. If so, that sounds more like a DT or OG than a QB.
My thoughts on him remain the same: I'm happy to have Liggins on board, but I'd be shocked if QB is in his future at LSU. His arm, while under-developed, doesn't appear to have a ton of natural ability. He's a bit of a soft-tosser... think Chris Relf. That being said, the quality of the highlight tapes, combined with the lack of passing attempts doesn't give a great source of evaluation. He does show good touch, and his throwing motion is compact. Could he be a QB at the D1 level? I think so. But he needs to be in a spread-option based offense, and I'm not sure Miles is willing to make a transition to that fully.
Now, Liggins does have a tremendous reputation for being a "field general" and a leader. That being said, from the tape I see a kid who is a naturally gifted runner and I'll never, ever oppose LSU stocking up on big athletes that can run. Liggins' future could be at TE or even on the DL. If he does play QB, frankly, I'll be surprised, but the nice thing is he has the ability to be used in many places on the field.
At worst, Liggins gives LSU another body at QB. At best, he's another big athlete that we can find a spot for. He claims he prefers to play QB (that's all he's ever played), but that he'd do whatever it takes to help the team. Saying that and following through on it are often different things. It appears Brick Haley was given the lead on recruiting Liggins, which could speak to where they expect him to wind up. Or, it could mean nothing.
In short, Liggins is a nice get for LSU.
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I'm glad we got him....
He’s a nice fill in for the class. Gives us at least a body at QB for now and at best, a very talented athelete to put somewhere if needed.
The Sky is not falling
Nice
Hope he makes it out of that bar/restaurant/place without too much hassle.
I’m not a doctor. Don’t even pretend to be one on TV. Does having only one kidney make one any less capable physically?
Kid's one heck of an athlete
Very nimble and quick for somebody his size. He tends to lob the ball a bit, but that might be a mechanical issue more than an arm strength one. Would love to see what he looks like after some time in the system.
And what I really love is that his leadership has been really consistently lauded by recruiting analysts.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
Hypothetically
How would he look at RB? As a power back a la Brandon Jacobs?
size wise, yes
But he has more wiggle. Doesn’t run with power like that.
Eye right blahgs.
by Paul Crewe on Jan 30, 2012 9:24 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hard to picture at 6'4, 290!
I'm quite charismatic.
by Mr.Charisma on Jan 30, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
Is it me or does Liggins bear a resemblance to Timbaland?
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Jan 30, 2012 9:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Stealing an Oxford native
I don’t care if he never takes a snap, this is hilarious.
A haiku, by Deadpool: I hate broccoli / And think it totally sucks / Why is it not meat?
I read Shea's free read at scout
and apparently we got the nod because we offered him the chance to play qb. I don’t know if it’ll be an RS10 situation where after a year we’ll move him once he sees how he performs in the system and where he is on the depth chart. I like the pickup but I hope he finds a home in this offense instead of transferring in a couple years.
by ORtigerfan on Jan 30, 2012 10:40 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I want to see how he throws the ball...
On his tape, it’s really hard to tell. Sometimes he looks like a soft-tosser, other times, there’s some good zip on the ball. Can Krags unearth some of that arm strength? He doesn’t have to have a JR arm to be successful… so if they can get enough out of it that he can throw downfield, Liggins can certainly play QB for us.
But I just can’t get a good feel for how he throws from his tape. He doesn’t do enough of it.
Eye right blahgs.
Yeah, I'd like to see him with some time in the system
Nobody knows what kind of conditioning program or quarterback coaching he’s been under up there. The go-to example to me is Tyson Jackson, who had barely ever lifted a weight before he got to LSU. And I’ve heard of quarterbacks arriving on campuses with all sorts of fixable mechanical issues — even stuff like how they gripped the football.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Jan 31, 2012 8:17 AM CST up reply actions
The world needs a new Pillsbury Throwboy. Battleship Liggins doesn’t sound as good as Battleship Lorenzen tho.
by The Silver Sky on Jan 30, 2012 11:51 PM CST reply actions
And the Valley Shook
Because of a broadside from Destroyer Liggins absolutely destroying the opponents.
by The Silver Sky on Jan 31, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
WOO!! Big Boy right out of Oxford. Suck it Ole Miss. Welcome to the fold!
(Martin Landau) Bela Lugosi: How dare that a****** bring up Karloff? You think it takes talent to do Frankenstein? It's all makeup and grunting.
--From the movie Ed Wood
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Just to note...
This commit has garnered a decent amount of national attention for a guy who isn’t exactly a “national prospect.”
I like the pickup more and more as I think on it.
Eye right blahgs.
I really want to be excited about this
but if I never see another dual-threat QB at LSU, it will be too soon. If he’s correctly labeled “dual-threat,” that is almost always code for “QB who runs a lot, not the best at passing.” Somebody compared him to Chris Relf…..again…..not what I’d prefer to see at LSU. Obviously they’re under no obligation to run any type of system I prefer, but I’m so spoiled that I’m not one of those people that “just want us to win, no matter how we do it.” Don’t like running QBs. I like a QB who can run if the play goes to shit, not one who looks to run or gets 10 called runs per game. Not my thing. Those “dual-threat” guys never seem to amount to much. Russell Shepard and Terrelle Pryor come to mind. Killer athletes…..just not QBs.
Best thing to keep in mind is
That it’s not always an either/or equation. Matt Flynn was a “dual threat” QB, especially out of high school.
The [QBs redacted] era is over.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Jan 31, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LSU has never won a National Championship with ah black quarterback
Its just the facts …. I hope this guy is the first .. I think he should have gone to Ole Miss or State….. I hope be is the greatest QB LSU has ever seen…. I hope he wins the Heis..man twice…. Hell 3 times …!
You want to couch that statement?
Because if you’re going to imply some correlation, your time here may be short…
And by the way, there’s no 2007 national title without Ryan Perriloux starting the 07 SEC Title game. Which he was the MVP of.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Jan 31, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
I agree 100% no BCS tital witout Perriloux
But facts is facts…. I’m not saying we can’t … I’m just saying we have not in our entire history
Are you implying that therefore LSU shouldn't be recruiting them?
Because I really have no idea what that has to do with Jeremy Liggins otherwise.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Jan 31, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
And I'm asking you what is the point of bringing this up in a thread regarding a kid who just decided he wants to play here
You’re treading in dangerous waters and I’m trying to throw you a lifesaver here.
Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Jan 31, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
Making ah point based on plain simple facts......
I don’t need ah life line when you stick with fact.. Facts are indisputable ..
I only offer.. An opinion grounded in facts… You can argue the facts but that still does not change them..
We have only won 3 Championships
It’s not like we are Bama over here with 14 Trophies, all won by white guys. Three is a very very small sample size for you to be stating such a bold “point” right after the kid leaves his hometown to commit to LSU. And like Billy said, RP was very instrumental in us winning in ’07…
Besides, why even bring any of this up? From all accounts, we just got a very good football players who is an even better young man. Color of the skin means nothing around here…. I would suggest you just drop this one.
by WhoDatSaintsLSU on Jan 31, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
LSU has never won a National title...
“…With a Chinese kicker.”
“…With an Australian punter.”
“….With an Indian Defensive Coordinator.”
“….With a Black Athletic Director.”
“….With a White waterboy.”
#thesearec.d.facts
Eye right blahgs.
so do you really think Liggens will play a different position?
I keep thinking of Rohan Davey
all I ask is for the chance to prove that money can't buy happiness
by Tike the Miger on Jan 31, 2012 1:51 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I go back and forth
The more tape I’ve seen, I’ve become more convinced that he has a chance to stick at QB.
Eye right blahgs.
THAT'S IT
Ever since I heard we got this kid I’ve been real excited. Of course I want all LSU players to succeed, but I want him, specifically, to succeed in a way I don’t want Randall or Rivers or even Mettenberger to succeed. And I thought it was a little weird, and I couldn’t figure out why, but I figured it was just one of those things.
But this is exactly why. Because he reminds me of Rohan Davey, who ran the most fun-to-watch offense in LSU history. And I want to see that again.
Don't Panic.
by 4.0 Point Stance on Jan 31, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Delusional Optimism at it's finest
A rec for you, good sir.
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