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The Golden Band from Tigerland marching Rex yesterday.


Southeastern Conference Standings

(updated 2.22.2012 at 2:10 AM CST)

Conf Overall
W L W L
Kentucky Wildcats 13 0 27 1
Florida Gators 10 3 22 6
Vanderbilt Commodores 8 4 19 8
Alabama Crimson Tide 6 6 17 9
LSU Tigers 6 6 16 10
Tennessee Volunteers 6 6 14 13
Mississippi St. Bulldogs 6 7 19 9
Arkansas Razorbacks 5 7 17 10
Mississippi Rebels 5 7 15 11
Auburn Tigers 4 9 14 13
Georgia Bulldogs 3 9 12 14
South Carolina Gamecocks 2 10 10 16

Your eyes do not deceive you. Thanks to Miss State failing to pull the upset last night and the general mediocrity of the conference as a whole, LSU is now in a 3-way tie for the conference tournament 4-seed, which has a first round bye. If things fall the right way, LSU could have the 4-seed outright by the end of the weekend. Of course LSU has to take care of it's own business first.

It's only week 1 and LSU baseball is already running away with the attendance crown.

A few of the FB assistants have been making the rounds on local radio. QB Coach Kragthorpe was on Tiger Rag to talk about Mettenberger and the future of the offense. ST Thomas McGaughey, OL/OC Greg Studrawa, and TE Steve Ensminger were all on Sports Today to talk about their personnel and their plans for next season.

The Times-Pic had a good interview with Ryan Perrilloux last week on what his year with the Giants has been like and what his future plans are.

There has been much to say over the last few days about the future of SEC football scheduling and it's effects on everything from rivalries to TV traditions. Most of it revolves around the problem of trying to fit a 14 team league into 8 games with a handful of protected rivalries. Football Outsiders has a plan that saves the important perma-rivalries and takes 18 years to cycle through. Dawg Sport instead has an ingenious solution: give every team 3 perma-rivals and abandon the divisions entirely.

Meanwhile, TAMU will participate in that oldest and least noble of SEC initiation rituals, a game in Shreveport. Mizzou is also preparing for some huge changes.

Brad Wing showed how amazing Australian punters can be, now everybody wants one.

Are you going to read a Spring Preview of Sun Belt football? Of course you are.

SB Nation's Cal blog took the time to rank EVERY QB IN D-1A.

It's time once again for the SEC Group Photo. The SEC site also has a pretty great piece on Maravich this week.

Craig James is an ass. But then, you already knew that.

The NFL Combine starts today. More than anyone, I've seen Michael Brockers make the biggest jumps on draft boards over the last few weeks.

Another week, another terrible transfer story, this time involving the QB Gary Crowton damaged last season, Maryland's Danny O'Brien

Buried here at the end, LSU had a quidditch...thing on the Parade Grounds this weekend.

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Regarding the schedule, we could, I dunno, play 9 games?

Like all the other major conferences? But no, our athletic directors and presidents too chicken and way to greedy for that. We simply must play the Towsons of the world in order to keep the lights on and the players fed. Otherwise, we’d have to resort to bake sales and such. It’s just a sacrifice season ticket holders have to make to keep the athletic dept alive.

Sarcasm aside, the more LSU keeps this up, the more I look at giving up my tickets and putting less money into the Saints and getting a better return on my investment (seats, games, fun).

nemo me impune lacessit

by LSUJOSHUA on Feb 22, 2012 5:46 AM CST reply actions  

I'm all for playing a 9 game conference schedule, but it shouldn't happen yet.

Slive knows what he’s doing. The SEC is already the nation’s toughest conference. The more games our schools play against each other, the greater the chance is that the SEC won’t have an undefeated team. That means the more conference games the SEC play, the lower the probability we’ll have an SEC team in the BCSNC game.

Sure this applies to other conferences too. But when you have the quality depth that this league has, I submit we are at greater risk than other conferences. In my opinion this means we should be one of the last conferences to adopt a 9 game conference schedule. I’m not sure I agree with your main point…

Like all the other major conferences?

What conferences play 9 games? I know the Pac 10 did back when they were the Pac 10. But what other “major” conference does this now?

Alabama fans, ask yourself this question: Is this who you want representing your University and your fanbase?

"Been saying it for six f**king years now...That g**damn hurricane just wasn’t big enough." - Outsidethesidelines, Manager, RollBamaRoll.com

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by LSU Jonno on Feb 22, 2012 7:28 AM CST up reply actions  

The PAC

They still play 9 conference games, even after expanding to 12 teams/2divisions.

by MikeDeTiger on Feb 22, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Also the Big 12

Last year they were in a 10 team league, and they played a 9 game round-robin schedule.

It remains to be seen what they’ll do with the addition of WVU and TCU

by MikeDeTiger on Feb 22, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

even with nine conference games

It’s not like we are going to stop playing the towson’s of the world. consider the situation GT and some of the other ACC schools are in. Every school likes to play at least six or seven games at home every year

12 games = 9 conference games + 1 traditional OOC rival (UGA) + 2 cupcakes. Assume that the ACC is smart enough to give GT 5 conference home games in years that UGA hosts and it basically stops GT from ever playing another OOC big time game again.

With only 8 conference games, SEC teams have more room to work on home and homes with big time OOCs. (not that they use the opportunity all the time)

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by PodKATT on Feb 22, 2012 7:44 AM CST up reply actions  

or even much....

LSU is one of the few SEC teams that routinely grabs its iron balls and consistently schedules AQ teams (I notice we often look west to the PAC, so when we go out of conference, we go WAY out).

I agree with you, but I’d still like to see an extra game against a “real” team. 3 ooc games is plenty. That’s room for one “real” game—if the SEC team wants it—and still two patsies to warm up on. That’s plenty. Saturdays in the fall are precious, I can’t stand to see an entire month in September go by watching The Powers That Be beating up on Southwest Baghdad Nursing School for the Blind.

by MikeDeTiger on Feb 22, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Personally, I could give two hairs off a monkey's anus

About all the inter-division rivalries that we’re all bending every-which-way to accommodate in this scheduling. I’m fairly certain the world will not end if Bama and Tennessee or Auburn and Georgia don’t play every year.

The problem here is that the powers that be are too busy trying to please everybody to come up with true balanced schedule rotation. And even then, they can’t do it because the rotation they’ve been using created the Bama “5 bye weeks” situation two years ago.

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by Billy Gomila on Feb 22, 2012 8:27 AM CST reply actions  

I think your opinion of those traditional rivalries is clouded by the fact that LSU doesn't have a traditional rivalry.

Living in Alabama has given me a much different perspective on games like UA-UT and AU-UGA…I can definitely appreciate the fans who don’t want to give up those games. And I think the conference is making a good decision to preserve those games.

Alabama fans, ask yourself this question: Is this who you want representing your University and your fanbase?

"Been saying it for six f**king years now...That g**damn hurricane just wasn’t big enough." - Outsidethesidelines, Manager, RollBamaRoll.com

http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2011/12/3/2607240/sec-championship-game-open-thread#

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by LSU Jonno on Feb 22, 2012 8:45 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You're probably not wrong

And I’m not opposed to trying to keep those game. But if its becoming the major reason we’re butting our heads up against a wall trying to create a schedule, that’s counter-intuitive in my mind. There are a lot of traditional rivalries that don’t exist anymore. Its just the way college football is evolving.

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by Billy Gomila on Feb 22, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

The thing about the divisions is

it’s just lazy. On another board, I saw a guy (UGA fan, I think) who had a model for the SEC’s new format that preserved our traditions such as UGA/AU and Bama/UT, Egg Bowl (hey, it matters to them, lulz)…all that stuff…..but did away with divisions completely and cycled the remaining slots as frequently as possible. It required adding a 9th conference game (see above…I’m all for it), and it actually gave a semblance of being in the same conference as UGA, UT, Vandy, etc. I think he said he was a computer programmer by trade, so while he’s probably fairly bright, this is what the SEC has computer nerds for. This guy did it in his spare time, surely the SEC could could pay somebody a few hundred grand to figure it out.

The only downside I could see is that the schedules wouldn’t be “memorizable” anymore. We would probably always have to look at the next year’s schedule to see who’s rotating on/off, unlike now, when the Two-Out-Of-Five-Years Cycle is pretty easily memorized. My question is: So What? Big whoop that we’d have to see the schedule to see who’s on it. I’m cool with that.

As it stands now, they’ve royally effed up in my book. We’re going to see UGA, UK, UT, etc. roughly…..never. What’s the point in being in the same conference? We are now effectively in the SEC WEST conference, and every year we’ll play novelty games against the SEC EAST conference, but we’ll see each of those guys individually even less than now. At the time of last year’s Tennessee game, some of the ATVS writers mentioned how they didn’t hate UT because we just don’t see them that much. Bingo. We OUGHT to hate our conference foes. We OUGHT to see them as often as possible. That’s what being in a conference is all about.

by MikeDeTiger on Feb 22, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Eff that noise

we gotta play Towson, North Texas and every other forgettable team out there.

And forgettable is the word because I just tried really hard to remember some rentawin game from the past season or two and I couldn’t.

And no, I’m not drunk.

Yet.

nemo me impune lacessit

by LSUJOSHUA on Feb 22, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

If they wer all about preserving rivalries, then LSU Ole Miss Halloween

would still exist. Fuck the SEC office and what bs they spout about protecting rivalries. They protect some at the expense of others.

nemo me impune lacessit

by LSUJOSHUA on Feb 22, 2012 11:44 AM CST reply actions  

or robbing us of night games

A boy has never wept...nor dashed a thousand kim

by Yail Bloor on Feb 22, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

offensive coaching staff still baffles me

not sure what’s going on there. I guess the title game was enough to wipe the supposedly widely coveted Studrawa off every single school’s radar.

A boy has never wept...nor dashed a thousand kim

by Yail Bloor on Feb 22, 2012 4:39 PM CST reply actions  

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