LSU - Arkansas Gameday Open Thread - And The Valley Shook

LSU - Arkansas Gameday Open Thread

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 11:39 AM CST in Football Comment 103 comments

The Arkansas Razorbacks present the last obstacle for the #1 Tigers to overcome before heading to Atlanta for the SEC Title game. Kickoff's at 1:30 CT in Baton Rouge.

Don't believe that 13 point spread; this is likely Houston Nutt's last game, and it's Darren McFadden's last chance to make a push for the Heisman trophy before almost certainly moving on to NFL riches. Beyond that, Les Miles has undoubtedly had a world of emotions swimming through his head all week in the wake of Lloyd Carr's announced departure from Michigan. It's no small distraction, and the pressure's on Miles as the world watches to see if he can keep his team focused in the midst of those rumors. I happen to think Coach Miles has handled the discussion impeccably well.

On that note, regardless of how this team finishes the year, at this stage Les has led the Tigers to 10 wins for three straight years - an LSU first - and that alone is worthy of high praise, regardless of Nick Saban's having stacked the talent cupboards prior to Miles' arrival. Many coaches have accomplished far less with plenty of talent themselves (look no further than Ann Arbor this year, in fact).

Things I'd like to see today:

Reasonable defensive containment of the Hogs' running game, given they have zero passing game for us to respect. By reasonable, I mean I'm okay with our giving up 100 yards to McFadden. 300 yards to whatever combination of Jones and McFadden, though, and we're toast.
How about Ryan Perrilloux getting some snaps earlier? I haven't been able to read everything coming out of Baton Rouge this past week and a half, so I'm not sure why we aren't seeing him until mop up duty. Gary Danielson seemed to think it was Flynn's ankle being 100%.
Glenn Dorsey, Jacob Hester, and Early Doucet to shine in their last games at Tiger Stadium.

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Watching the game over the internet

FYI, if you're at work and want to catch the video of the game, it's offered for $9.95 on CSTV HERE.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 11:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Link broken

Try this instead.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

CHARLES SCOTT ON SPECIAL TEAMS!

Not how I imagined him getting involved, but hey...we'd better turn that kickoff fumble into six!

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 1:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Flynn

total hardass

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 1:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

That run was great

That said, I'm not sure why he felt he had to throw that endzone route to Doucet on the first play after the fumble. He was WELL covered. Flynn didn't even think twice. Maybe it's one of those plays in which he didn't even have a checkdown.

Whatever. 3 is better than nothing.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

McFadden's got the yips

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 1:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Good to see Beckwith back in there

Will not be an easy day if Dorsey stays on the sidelines though

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 1:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Jacob Hester

Is multi diversified. Just so you know.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 2:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Danielson has really "loosened up" Verne

must be the hip flask he brings into the booth

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

There's our "shaky kicker"

Who according to much of the world should not have been trusted to make a 39 yarder against Auburn.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 2:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I will give our D an A+ through 2 possessions

Offense, a little less so unless we start getting sevens instead of threes.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 2:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

What the hell guys

3 and out? We're one missed tackle on D-Mac away from trailing in this game.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 2:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Please no

Not one of those games were the defense is herculean and the offense gets cute.

Flynn's lack of touch on the last drive cost LaFell that first down. If LaFell hadn't had to jump for it, he probably drags the defender another four yards.

Arkansas is begging to be blown out here. Lets do it.

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 2:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Flynn

I'm fine with the playcalling, and Flynn has invariably come through late in the game every time. But with the exception of last week, it almost seems like he's always in an uphill battle at the start of every game so that he can get his wits about him.

I'm just not sure I understand why we don't let RP get a few snaps in there to mix it up and spell MF for a bit.

I haven't seen anything great out of Flynn as a passer. I love the nerves of steel, but where's the early game killer instinct?

I'm not saying he's incapable of it, I just want to see it.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

His punt into double coverage

last drive wasn't stellar either

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Need a TD from the D here.

Great punt.

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 2:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Charles Scott up the gut on 2nd and 17

It just seems like we don't really want this. We kinda do, but expect it to be handed to us. Recipe for disaster.

I am just not impressed with Mr. Flynn today.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 2:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, If We Could Have Put Up A Couple

quick TDs I am not sure how hard Arkansas would have played. But alas it seems we want to keep them in the game.

Let Is not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

#1

Fairly easy to see why plenty of folks like to question why it's evidently etched in stone that we're the best team in the country.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I Am Thinking If I Wasn't An LSU

fan I'd find it pretty easy to argue they are in fact not the best team.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Defense

Can force 3 and outs all day, and just one drive can be a killer when our offense isn't even TRYING to help out.

Of course, this is shaping up to be a 97 yard drive for the Hogs, so even with those other three and outs, the defense shouldn't let this happen.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 2:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

"Flynn Has Modest Numbers Today"

well I guess that is the polite way to point that out.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 2:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

My God

Can we not get ourselves into third and long situations for once?

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 2:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

flynn is killing the receiving corps

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This is a classic LSU loss

staring us in the face.

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 2:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe we could take some cues from R Kansas

They know the importance of third and shorts.

And Casey Dick converts. Yeesh.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Someone needs to head down to Harrah's

and bring Perilloux back to the stadium.

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 3:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

RP

Have you heard ANYTHING about why he isn't playing? As I mentioned in the preview up top here, all I've heard is Danielson last week say it's basically b/c Flynn is 100% now so we don't feel the need for RP.

I beg to differ.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Could've sworn it's called the Wild-CAT formation

Did that leave with Malzahn?

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I Can Hendle Them Scoring

I mean McFadden is a stud. But how the heck can our defense let them drive out of their own end zone for a second time straight time.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 3:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Perfect post Tommy

You were the anti-jinx for the D

Punt time!

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I Do What I Can :)

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Steltz is hobbling too?

Christ, it's Dorsey, Doucet, and Steltz...aarrrrrghhhhhhh

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't it seem like Robert Johnson's

been at Arkansas for a decade?

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 3:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Flynn looks like a kindergartner out there

He just doesn't look like a leader at all. Get some fire in that ass, dude.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Wow

he needs to be pulled ASAP

by Man Mountain on Nov 23, 2007 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Tell you what

I'm surprised the crowd isn't raining boos on Flynn right now. Just missed a wide open Doucet across the middle.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

haha

Evidently we only needed two more awful throws to get those going.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Couple thoughts

I hate being the guy to lay it on one guy, but frankly, the entire blame right now rests on Flynn. He's been absolutely horrible. Bad decisions, bad throws. He's had it in him in the past to get over these bad starts and be cool as ice down the stretch so we'll see. We damn sure need it.

Two positives:

Holding Arkansas to just 7 in a half. I'll take that any day.
One penalty. At least that part's been somewhat addressed today.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I Know You Have Said This More Then Once This Year

but why the heck did Flynn pass almost 25 times in one half. Run the gosh darn ball. I mean it is football 101. Just cause they stuff you on a couple series you don't stop running the ball when you are either up by six or down by one.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe they're trying to let MF get some rhythm?

I'm with you, not sure what's up with that many passes. Had a few 2nd and 3rd and longs. We need to start getting 5+ yards on first.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I Am Not Going To Get Down On Flynn

cause he seems to do what it takes to win, but I just think you have to help put him in the best situation for him to come through, and third and long is not that situation.

And although Miles did call at halftime to ask what I thought, but if he did I would have said give it to Scott and pound the ball right down their throats.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok Get Perrilloux In After Half

I mean I know the guy is in Mile's "dog house" but get him in for, if nothing else, a change of pace.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 3:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Tough to argue with that

As much as most of us fans are sitting here begging for it, I will give Miles credit for this much: he clearly knows what RP can do, and if it's simply a "doghouse" issue keeping RP on the bench, then kudos to Miles for risking a title and sticking with his principles. Not playing him is his own decision. Miles isn't trying to mess with our heads. He wants a national championship on his resume more than any of us do.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No You Are Right About That

Principles are pretty lacking on most sports these days. And if we lose a chance for a national title cause he is coaching based on principles more power to him. I'd rather have a team/coach/school I can be proud of more then a title. Although I would kind of like to have both of them.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Heheh

I'd kinda like to have both too!

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

3 straight to Hester to start the half

That's getting the crowd back into it! Keep moving the chains.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Even The Crowd Is "Flat" n/t

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 3:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Gosh He Is Really, Really Good n/t

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 3:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Yep

I had zero expectations of being able to completely contain D-Mac.

You really get the feeling with our lethargy today there's just no way this team gets the fire in it to come back and win. As in, maybe the offense has laid it on the shoulders of the D one time too many and now it's time to pay the piper.

I will say this much though - I like the playcalling on offense to start the half. Even though Hester didn't get the first down, and it was predictable that we'd go to him, I have no problem with the call.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Now It Is Your Turn ....

You were the anti-jinx for the O.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 3:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hah

Guess so.

I am definitely not a fan of going for two this early.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well Since It Worked I Was All For It

I've really liked Mile's aggressive play calling this year. I've always felt when you have a good team that by doing stuff like this you're showing you have complete faith in their ability. And I have to think believe that helps them believe in themselves. And when you are playing at this high of a level it is often those "little" things you can't measure that makes all the difference.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

True

Miles has said to hell with convention this year, and it's worked. He knows the odds.

We may have gotten a wee bit lucky on the PI call. SO be it

Damn, and there goes Arky again all the way down the field. Ugh. Time to do it all over again.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, Where Was Our Secondary

on that play? I think maybe either you or I could have taken that play the length of the field.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Welcome back, Tiger Stadium crowd

Glad you made it today!!!!!

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Wow, That Is a Staggering Stat

586 carries w/o losing a fumble. Wow! That is a very, very well coached team.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 4:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Indeed

That covers Les Miles' entire tenure here.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

BEAUTIFUL job by Flynn

Of standing there with the pocket collapsing and delivering that TD pass. I've criticized him all day, he deserves huge props for that one.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Well Naybe We're Both Wrong

and Miles knew what he was doing sticking w/ Flynn.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 4:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Have to give Nutt credit

They are perfectly fine calling that same play (McFadden in the Wildcat aka Wild-HOG) on first down every time, and it's only getting 2 yards. Then it's mixing it up later in the series that nets them the first down (or huge play TD).

We just need ONE stop....COME ON GUYS!

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Well It Is Kind of A No-brainer

I'd just tell by offensive coordinator that McFadden needs to touch the ball on every play.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think we have to blitz Dick on 3rd down

I can't believe I'm saying it but he's actually made some decent throws. We have to pressure him on those 3rd down situations.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

By the way

Notice we didn't blitz, and Dick nearly converted a 3rd and 18...16 yards and they damn well could have gone for it on fourth and likely gotten it had they wanted.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I Just Have To Say This

I am so sick of hearing about Tim Tebow! I mean how can any football fan not think Colt Brennan is the Heisman winner.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 4:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Really?

I could do with a little less discussion of Tebow but that guy is a stud. He's done what he has against so much better competition than Brennan has. He's so damn versatile, as a running or passing threat. It's tough not to give it to him, in my opinion.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That Is One Part Of The Conversation

I dislike, the level of the competition. Colt plays who is on the schedule. He can't control that. I also dislike when I hear (I am talking Around the Horn and PTI -- not you) people say it is the "system" that helps Colt. I mean the system Tebow plays in is built 110% around him.

But it could also be a little bit of my biased. I greatly dislike Florida.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 4:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I agree on that...

I'm not docking Brennan, but Tebow has accomplished no small feat, and he's done it against far superior talent. Just a statement FOR Tebow rather than AGAINST Brennan,

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Good job D!

Offense lays a three and out and we force one ourselves.

Maybe not a bad time to try that 60 yard TD pass to Toliver?

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

In Other College Football News

My gosh what the heck has happened to Nebraska? I mean growing up in the midwest they were college football. Always 10 wins a year. It is kind of strange to see both them and Notre Dame have a combined record of 7-16. Never thought I would be alive to witness that.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 4:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Same

Not to mention FSU middling around the unranked levels too...

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

GOD

These formation penalties are just horrendous.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 4:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Gosh They Are Really Making This Harder

then it needs to be.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 4:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Well At Least They Left Us Time

on the clock to do something.

BTW: I know I am an SEC "homer" but this is why this is the best conference, bar none. It is so rare there is ever an easy game.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

True

We haven't had a single SEC home game this year that hasn't given every Tiger fan heartburn.

80 yards and 5 minutes to preserve those title hopes guys.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And I'm Hoping That Experience

will pull us through ...

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey Guys, Speed It Up A Little Would Yeah n/t

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Oh STFU About Ohio State

I got no respect for a conference, and I grew up in the heart of the Big Ten, for a conference where each team doesn't play each other and they don't have a conference title game. It just makes no sense.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Although..

That Dickson catch was totally reminiscent of 2002 Ohio State. Called "lucky" all year long and then won the national title.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey No Team Wins A National Championship Without

its fair share of luck.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Agree with Danielson

Clock management here is poor.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 5:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ok, My One Shot At the Announcers

He is calling TOs cause they are playing for a national championship. We may have the best defense in the country. If we score here and there is less then a minute on the clock, and if our D can't stop them, we don't deserve to win.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

See?

They have TONS of time to get that winning FG. I'm with Danielson on it...why even give them a shot? They've got all-time awesome playmakers in Jones and McFadden. Don't think our defense should be judged on just one drive.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well In Hindsight

I would have been way wrong in my previous statement.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I Am Sorry, That Ball Was Snapped n/t

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

OH MY GOD

FLYNN YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!!!!

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 5:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I Second That

I don't think Flynn is going to be playing on Sundays, but my gosh is the guy clutch. If he was "on the board" in a late round I'd bring him in cause you just can't teach/coach that special something he has.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG ............

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

If Arkansas beats us on a hail mary again

Like 2002, I'm going to puke.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 5:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

What a tackle by that LB on Keiland

Saved a TD by grabbing Keiland's jersey...

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 5:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

MATT FLYNN ONCE AGAIN!

As you said earlier, good God this guy is clutch!!!!

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 5:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Now The Pressure Seems To Be Getting To Them

and it seems to be pretty darn loud at the moment.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Once again...

Not blitzing on the 3rd/4th and long situations is allowing them to convert.

by GeauxTigers on Nov 23, 2007 5:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I Kind Of Figured You Might Have Yelled

something at the TV when they didn't blitz. But I was in the middle of typing how dumb they were to bring Dick in and move McFadden. But alas it was a good thing I didn't hit "post." Cause I would have been wrong again.

Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

by tommyguniii on Nov 23, 2007 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs